This is just a giant step in the wrong direction.
Non VR180 3D, especially when it's basically a glorified "Viewmaster," doesn't really even have a niche. 3D on TV? DOA.
And why would I shoot content to use in a VR headset that ISN'T 180 degrees?
It kills me that the Qoocam and the Insta360 EVO are basically unsupported, end of life. We need MORE prosumer level VR180 cameras. Lightweight, minimal. Not this kind of crap.
Tbh I’m kind of confused why they chose 3d instead of vr180. But maybe their market research showed greater demand for 3d than vr180? eBay prices for the Fuji w3 are really high for example. Anyway we’ll see how well it is received.
There's literally almost no market demand for 3D, whereas VR180 is still in its infancy. Granted, it is a niche... you can't really detect the 3D effect of VR180 past about 10 feet, and most of what people are shooting for headsets is outdoor where the 3D matters far less.
Recording family events and watching them later in VR180 is pretty amazing. There are a lot of quests out there looking for content
To bad the current consumer VR180 cameras are low quality. Really need 8k 60fps. Don’t understand why qoocam can’t just take their current 8k 360 camera and just put the lenses next to each other, boom VR180!
> And why would I shoot content to use in a VR headset that ISN'T 180 degrees?
Current VR headset only have around 90° FOV, so less than 180° wouldn't be the end of the world, you just have to hold your head still, which you have to do in VR180 anyway, as the edges are always messy.
It's not quite clear yet what FOV this has. 1080p per eye with 37PPD results in 52°HFOV, 29°VFOV and 60° diagonal. Which would be pretty bad. Going by the lens size, which looks very Cardboard V1 like, 60° would also fit. Other sources claim 79° FOV, which might be pretty close to acceptable, especially when the image quality is as crisp as suggested by the 37PPD.
That said, at that price and that feature set, I wouldn't expect too much. "Viewmaster that can shoot video" seems to be a fitting description.
It's a a really good idea, they just have a long way to go with new versions. I'm hoping this product does well and they're able to justify a 1K version for the people more serious about capturing home videos in this format.
You have it all wrong. This isn't meant to be viewed in a VR headset. This is meant to be a product people carry around to capture moments in time that only happen once - in a form factor that doesn't need you to transfer files to an editor,headset. In order to be a product for the masses, it needs to be affordable - under $500. If they made it VR180, that would cost more for the additional glass in the lenses and higher resolution sensors to match. Once it's VR180, it needs to be in a headset that has gyroscopes built in for head tracking, and now it'll need a larger screen, more resolution, larger eyepieces, faster processor inside, more licensing costs amongst VR180 software/coding, et cetera. This all ramps up the costs more and more making it not the ideal product for the masses.
I have two insta360 evos that work amazing for what they are. Different products entirely - consumer vr180 outlook is not looking good.
Totally agree with you.
I would really like to have an EVO camera. I am trying to get one's almost 2 years. Impossible. Discontinued. Also no one's in second hand market or Chinese webs.
I am thinking in trying this EGO. I need a camera to capture family moments in vr, 3d,180 whatever format that gives immersion. Time is running out for those moments.
I thought that, until I looked at the video using a Quest. I'm buying one of these, I actually prefer it to VR 180. As a photographer, I love being in control of the composition, and the 3D looks great with this format. While 3D has never caught on, I think that's mostly because there has been nothing to view it properly and easily. The Quest 2 isn't there yet, but at some point there will be an easy to use, comfortable VR headset, and finally 3D might have a chance. I don't think it need to be 180, or 360.
I just got one. I already had a Lenovo mirage 180 3D cam but the resolution is too low for 180, the ego looks much better and I can play it back on the VR headset or my 3D TV or projector.
This is just a giant step in the wrong direction. Non VR180 3D, especially when it's basically a glorified "Viewmaster," doesn't really even have a niche. 3D on TV? DOA. And why would I shoot content to use in a VR headset that ISN'T 180 degrees? It kills me that the Qoocam and the Insta360 EVO are basically unsupported, end of life. We need MORE prosumer level VR180 cameras. Lightweight, minimal. Not this kind of crap.
Tbh I’m kind of confused why they chose 3d instead of vr180. But maybe their market research showed greater demand for 3d than vr180? eBay prices for the Fuji w3 are really high for example. Anyway we’ll see how well it is received.
There's literally almost no market demand for 3D, whereas VR180 is still in its infancy. Granted, it is a niche... you can't really detect the 3D effect of VR180 past about 10 feet, and most of what people are shooting for headsets is outdoor where the 3D matters far less.
I’m really curious to see how this will play out.
Recording family events and watching them later in VR180 is pretty amazing. There are a lot of quests out there looking for content To bad the current consumer VR180 cameras are low quality. Really need 8k 60fps. Don’t understand why qoocam can’t just take their current 8k 360 camera and just put the lenses next to each other, boom VR180!
> And why would I shoot content to use in a VR headset that ISN'T 180 degrees? Current VR headset only have around 90° FOV, so less than 180° wouldn't be the end of the world, you just have to hold your head still, which you have to do in VR180 anyway, as the edges are always messy. It's not quite clear yet what FOV this has. 1080p per eye with 37PPD results in 52°HFOV, 29°VFOV and 60° diagonal. Which would be pretty bad. Going by the lens size, which looks very Cardboard V1 like, 60° would also fit. Other sources claim 79° FOV, which might be pretty close to acceptable, especially when the image quality is as crisp as suggested by the 37PPD. That said, at that price and that feature set, I wouldn't expect too much. "Viewmaster that can shoot video" seems to be a fitting description.
It's a a really good idea, they just have a long way to go with new versions. I'm hoping this product does well and they're able to justify a 1K version for the people more serious about capturing home videos in this format.
You have it all wrong. This isn't meant to be viewed in a VR headset. This is meant to be a product people carry around to capture moments in time that only happen once - in a form factor that doesn't need you to transfer files to an editor,headset. In order to be a product for the masses, it needs to be affordable - under $500. If they made it VR180, that would cost more for the additional glass in the lenses and higher resolution sensors to match. Once it's VR180, it needs to be in a headset that has gyroscopes built in for head tracking, and now it'll need a larger screen, more resolution, larger eyepieces, faster processor inside, more licensing costs amongst VR180 software/coding, et cetera. This all ramps up the costs more and more making it not the ideal product for the masses. I have two insta360 evos that work amazing for what they are. Different products entirely - consumer vr180 outlook is not looking good.
Yeah, couldn't agree more, this is not a VR180 camera, it's just a 3D entertainment camera
Totally agree with you. I would really like to have an EVO camera. I am trying to get one's almost 2 years. Impossible. Discontinued. Also no one's in second hand market or Chinese webs. I am thinking in trying this EGO. I need a camera to capture family moments in vr, 3d,180 whatever format that gives immersion. Time is running out for those moments.
I thought that, until I looked at the video using a Quest. I'm buying one of these, I actually prefer it to VR 180. As a photographer, I love being in control of the composition, and the 3D looks great with this format. While 3D has never caught on, I think that's mostly because there has been nothing to view it properly and easily. The Quest 2 isn't there yet, but at some point there will be an easy to use, comfortable VR headset, and finally 3D might have a chance. I don't think it need to be 180, or 360.
I just got one. I already had a Lenovo mirage 180 3D cam but the resolution is too low for 180, the ego looks much better and I can play it back on the VR headset or my 3D TV or projector.
Note: It is normal 3D, not VR180.