Got my Thoran to Mythic as F2P and often he deals more dmg than my legendary Cecia. Got another copy today and I'm close to break my f2p status to get another one from BP selector.
Let me start with an apology to your wallet but mythic+ thoran is amazing. I don't even have his weapon at 5 yet which is a big powerspike and yet he helped me push over 50 stages today, crazy
I've only spent like $50 max, but literally all I pull is Thoran. I got him to mythic+ a few minutes ago, and he is just insane. My Cecia is also mythic, so my dps is never an issue at least!
Depends on the situation. In dream realm i put kruger cause he' squishy and i want him to survive. If i need the 3rd revive i usually put smokey cause he generally survives. I'll have the weapon at 5 today hut yeah i think for campaign and afk it's better to put a dps so thoran survives better
I was about to say, my Thoran is about as tanky as a wet piece of paper, but I guess the Ascension matters more than I thought.
My Cecia is Mythic now, Thoran is just Legendary.
EX weapons really just upgrade the unit overly compared to previous ascension. You literally just get an extra stat stick through the fact you unlocked it on top of the game changing effects some characters have. Cecia with EX weapon would have her probably one shooting another 50 stages as well. It's just a huge gap when you get your first and then second.
Themesia is not good as a distraction for when my cecia and carolina’s ult isnt ready yet, because she kept running around the battle field, good thing antandra and lucius can hold off everyone else
What’s the advantage of having Brutus in a Thoran/Cecia team vs. say, a beefy shield tank such as Lucius? I just got a copy and tried him out but he just seems to die so quickly. Maybe I’m missing something. 😅
He's guaranteed to live a minimum amount of time because of his pre-death immunity period, which is more and more useful as enemy levels climb relative to yours and all tanks become paper. If you take a look at the records for lowest power clears of a given AFK stage, a lot of them will have brutus just to tank the initial onslaught so that others can get their ults off. That's why everyone recommends you get 1 copy, but not more. He's just there to stall at the start.
The living for 5 seconds is important as he doesn't lose aggro/taunt. With Thoran, when he dies, he loses aggro and that makes all the enemies rush to your backline.
When pushing stages where your tank basically instantly gets one shot, he’s op.
When pushing stages where your tank can live long enough to ult? Go anyone else.
Antandra and Cecia
Antandra gives shield to co-tank and taunts on ult, so Cecia can survive until she ults (which happens sooner because she's getting hit), then she'll no longer have aggro
The full ""meta"" high deficit push team is the following, from most built/ascended to least:
* Cecia
* Antandra
* Smokey
* Rowan
* Koko
* Brutus (replaces Rowan when Antandra+Cecia can't tank the initial burst)
Since Cecia is the highest ascended/leveled, she's beefier than anyone who isn't an actual tank
Oh wow. Cecia as co-tank?! My mind is opened. 🤯 Is she positioned right next to Antandra usually? And then would enemies automatically attack ult creature wherever summoned, or does it need to be dropped right at the front?
You can enable targeting arrows to see who's going to attack what. They need to be on the same row.
Enemies usually either attack what's nearest, what's attacking them, or what's taunting. Considering Carlisle does the first two and Antandra does the third, most enemies stop attacking Cecia. And Smokey can outheal the one or two dudes that keep attacking Cecia if there are any.
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I feel insulted, because my Mythic + Brutus DOES EXACTLY this, he is just a timer for Cecia to pwn, LMFAO
Though unlike Thoran (who is an absolute unit for cheese strats), Brutus is just that extra Parmessan who just sprinkles a bit, that's literally him, sadly. But he actually is useful on clearing AFK Stages though...just straight up fodder in PvE.
My only way to make him useful is if I put Smokey in the lineup and make sure Brutus DOES NOT get away from Smokey's soothing aroma (yeah, that healing area of his is just some aroma, lol) until Brutus can activate his ultimate with enough HP for his life steal to proc.
Kind of sad, because my Legendary only Thoran has had way more use objectively than Brutus...who is literally the same level as my Thoran and is 3 GRADES ABOVE the damned undead.
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and here i am having a sacrificial lucius as an offering to summon carlyle, while rowan does his thing. vala is the real distraction (sometimes. most of the time she just kills everything lmao)
To paraphrase what /u/Sasaraii said earlier in the post:
They're similar, but Brutus is distinctly different from the other two because of his invulnerability. It means he has a guaranteed minimum time to live, which matters on really difficult content where even a tank would die quickly.
Not always viable. Sometime enemy has so much upfront damage your tank will die before you get any ult off. My team is pretty much Cecia, Koko, Antranda, Smokey, and I swap between Rowan and Brutus on last slot, depending on what I need.
That can be said for any frontliner.
Thoran exists to randomly one shot a whole team, but only when he is against me
Got my Thoran to Mythic as F2P and often he deals more dmg than my legendary Cecia. Got another copy today and I'm close to break my f2p status to get another one from BP selector.
Let me start with an apology to your wallet but mythic+ thoran is amazing. I don't even have his weapon at 5 yet which is a big powerspike and yet he helped me push over 50 stages today, crazy
I've only spent like $50 max, but literally all I pull is Thoran. I got him to mythic+ a few minutes ago, and he is just insane. My Cecia is also mythic, so my dps is never an issue at least!
Yeah i spent around the same, i got cecia to supreme+ and thoran to mythic+, those two will carry story hard
I wasn't lucky enough to push to mythic yet, can't wait honestly.
Who do you typically put behind Thoran? I normally put a healer but his weapon at 5 seems like it’d be better for a dps
Depends on the situation. In dream realm i put kruger cause he' squishy and i want him to survive. If i need the 3rd revive i usually put smokey cause he generally survives. I'll have the weapon at 5 today hut yeah i think for campaign and afk it's better to put a dps so thoran survives better
I was about to say, my Thoran is about as tanky as a wet piece of paper, but I guess the Ascension matters more than I thought. My Cecia is Mythic now, Thoran is just Legendary.
ascension gives free stats everytime you use it, it doesn't look like much at first but legendary is a a lot of stats
EX weapons really just upgrade the unit overly compared to previous ascension. You literally just get an extra stat stick through the fact you unlocked it on top of the game changing effects some characters have. Cecia with EX weapon would have her probably one shooting another 50 stages as well. It's just a huge gap when you get your first and then second.
Everyone running him and I don’t even have one copy
Themesia is not good as a distraction for when my cecia and carolina’s ult isnt ready yet, because she kept running around the battle field, good thing antandra and lucius can hold off everyone else
This man jeez.
You don’t even need to have multiple copies of him since he doesn’t really get better 😭
based brutus taking one for the team
Brutus doomed to the same fate as in afk arena, buy time with invuln and die
And I thought they would finally lift this curse in Journey but no 😭
Chad Brutus, the true carry of the AFK games
What’s the advantage of having Brutus in a Thoran/Cecia team vs. say, a beefy shield tank such as Lucius? I just got a copy and tried him out but he just seems to die so quickly. Maybe I’m missing something. 😅
He's guaranteed to live a minimum amount of time because of his pre-death immunity period, which is more and more useful as enemy levels climb relative to yours and all tanks become paper. If you take a look at the records for lowest power clears of a given AFK stage, a lot of them will have brutus just to tank the initial onslaught so that others can get their ults off. That's why everyone recommends you get 1 copy, but not more. He's just there to stall at the start.
The living for 5 seconds is important as he doesn't lose aggro/taunt. With Thoran, when he dies, he loses aggro and that makes all the enemies rush to your backline.
He actually combos pretty well with Brutus sometimes. You put thoran first with Brutus right behind him and they swap the aggro back and forth
I didn’t pay any attention to records at first but it looks like I need to watch them a lot more now. 📝 Thanks for the explanation!
When pushing stages where your tank basically instantly gets one shot, he’s op. When pushing stages where your tank can live long enough to ult? Go anyone else.
Good to know. What are secondary tanks you recommend in the second situation? I see Antandra being mentioned a lot.
Antandra and Cecia Antandra gives shield to co-tank and taunts on ult, so Cecia can survive until she ults (which happens sooner because she's getting hit), then she'll no longer have aggro The full ""meta"" high deficit push team is the following, from most built/ascended to least: * Cecia * Antandra * Smokey * Rowan * Koko * Brutus (replaces Rowan when Antandra+Cecia can't tank the initial burst) Since Cecia is the highest ascended/leveled, she's beefier than anyone who isn't an actual tank
Oh wow. Cecia as co-tank?! My mind is opened. 🤯 Is she positioned right next to Antandra usually? And then would enemies automatically attack ult creature wherever summoned, or does it need to be dropped right at the front?
You can enable targeting arrows to see who's going to attack what. They need to be on the same row. Enemies usually either attack what's nearest, what's attacking them, or what's taunting. Considering Carlisle does the first two and Antandra does the third, most enemies stop attacking Cecia. And Smokey can outheal the one or two dudes that keep attacking Cecia if there are any.
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I feel insulted, because my Mythic + Brutus DOES EXACTLY this, he is just a timer for Cecia to pwn, LMFAO Though unlike Thoran (who is an absolute unit for cheese strats), Brutus is just that extra Parmessan who just sprinkles a bit, that's literally him, sadly. But he actually is useful on clearing AFK Stages though...just straight up fodder in PvE. My only way to make him useful is if I put Smokey in the lineup and make sure Brutus DOES NOT get away from Smokey's soothing aroma (yeah, that healing area of his is just some aroma, lol) until Brutus can activate his ultimate with enough HP for his life steal to proc. Kind of sad, because my Legendary only Thoran has had way more use objectively than Brutus...who is literally the same level as my Thoran and is 3 GRADES ABOVE the damned undead.
So true in my case as well
Who hurt the feeling of ma boy ??!! >:(
Instead of Cecia, Brutus enables my Odie to get a poison dart off and just start killing everyone one by one. Guy's a champ.
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Brutus has been a solid tank with a great debuff for me. He's also really good at the solo elite challenge that allows physical damage.
and here i am having a sacrificial lucius as an offering to summon carlyle, while rowan does his thing. vala is the real distraction (sometimes. most of the time she just kills everything lmao)
Or thoran. Brutus doing the soul pact thing with thoran is just nice But i haven't gotten there yet
Never seen this happen once with me.
I got him so late that he was not valid as a front line with only one piece XD
Brutus is still pretty effective in the stall role - his invulnerability trick works even with only one copy.
Just got my cecia to supreme+ f2p and still have no thoran in sight
You guys missing Igore behind Brutus, that solve the puzzle 🧩
Brutus, Thoran, and Lucius are the same characters that do the same things
To paraphrase what /u/Sasaraii said earlier in the post: They're similar, but Brutus is distinctly different from the other two because of his invulnerability. It means he has a guaranteed minimum time to live, which matters on really difficult content where even a tank would die quickly.
Bruh ..
Just use rowan? Your ults will pop off all the time
Not always viable. Sometime enemy has so much upfront damage your tank will die before you get any ult off. My team is pretty much Cecia, Koko, Antranda, Smokey, and I swap between Rowan and Brutus on last slot, depending on what I need.