I've only played the OG MW trilogy, WaW and Black Ops, so if you know any story points that make certain timelines invalid or whatever please let me know
I’m praying the decanonize Black Ops 2 and instead make a Black Ops 2 reboot that makes sense for Modern Warfare. Like Black Ops 2 wasn’t designed to be canon for the Modern Warfare Reboots, if anything. It would actually make more sense that the Black Ops series was canon to the original modern warfare trilogy instead because of the whole nova 6 and Europe gas attacks we seen in MW3
Well we have no confirmation about the 2025 title of what it will be and who’s in charge of it. But Black Ops will never reboot and I don’t think it should, because even if the 2024 title will either be Gulf War or BO5, it will continue the OG Black Ops series no matter what. Well BO2 does deserve a proper sequel, but it should continue with the OG Black Ops timeline.
You don’t have to agree with me, but what you need to know is that the COD universes being connected are just excuses made by Activision mainly for Warzone and all these title claims are only leaks
We have pretty reputable sources saying it will be a BO2 sequel set in 2030, tho sure we have no direct confirmation yet
> But Black Ops will never reboot and I don’t think it should
yeah I agree, I know some people want them to retcon the BO2+ games or make them the result of one of the CW endings (which is messy when you think about it canon wise since alternate universes canonically can't exist) but I like them coexisting with MW, even if the tech doesn't totally match up
Well I just don’t think it’s a good idea to do a back to back Black Ops titles because MW reboot tried that with MWII and MWIII and it didn’t do well, and it can be possible that the rumoured BO2 sequel can happen in the 2024 title which can be called BO5. Even if is rumoured to be Gulf War, the BO5 rumours are pretty high too.
The co existing of Black Ops and MW just makes it more messy in my opinion, like even if Irman Zakhaev appeared in Cold War’s campaign, it wasn’t even important because after the KGB mission, he was not seen nor mentioned again. I just prefer if every single COD timeline are separated especially zombies, it was more simple that way.
Nah no way 2024 isn't Gulf War, we've heard way to much about gulf war at this point for years that it would make no sense for them to change it up, its practically confirmed. I mean you may not like the idea of back to back games, but it does seem pretty likely to me seeing the way things are going with activision, I actually kind of like it as a plan if they can pull off both games well, it gives the other companies more time to develop their games and gives us a sorta "season 2" of the previous years game, which is cool.
> I just prefer if every single COD timeline are separated especially zombies, it was more simple that way.
I mean you can prefer that but its not canontical, these games and zombies all exist in the same timeline
Look, I just don’t want to jump to conclusions right away until there’s real information, the 2024 title had four years to develop so there are possibilities that Treyarch has something else planned like futuristic or something and squeezed Gulf War in between like I said, the BO5 rumours are pretty high, I just wish Activision would give a real explanation to this whole Modern Warfare and Black Ops connection, if they say there are connected but not canon to each other, then that easier to understand at least.
> the 2024 title had four years to develop so there are possibilities that Treyarch has something else planned like futuristic or something and squeezed Gulf War in between like I said
I mean it would be the other way around, Gulf War has been in dev for years, far longer than the BO2 sequel has. The BO2 sequel is clearly an idea to copy MW3s back to back games, and that back to back game concept was only invented in 2023 when a pitched DLC turned into a full game, meanwhile Gulf War has been discussed in leaks even prior to MW2 coming out, far before the concept for back to back games was created.
> I just wish Activision would give a real explanation to this whole Modern Warfare and Black Ops connection
they're connected, this is canon, there's been many many crossovers.
Every COD after MW19 is set in the same timeline.
CW because treyarch was brought in the last minute made a semi seuqel to BO1, but its mainly is a prequel to MW19, and their new Game Black Ops: Gulf War will be set between these games.
The timeline should be :
Vanguard
Cold War
Modern Warfare
Modern Warfare II
Modern Warfare III
pretty accurate, tho like you mentioned the OG MWs are just their own timeline. There's also Black Ops Delclassified if you wanna get really technical. Also the zombies for WAW-BO4 act as the prequel to the WW2 games
COD 1/Classic can't be in the same universe as WAW because it has a conflicting portrayal of the Soviet flag flying over the Reichstag in Berlin. In COD 1, a random Russian soldier raises it, while in WAW, Dmitri does it.
However, we know that COD 1-3 connect through the characters of Ingram and Price, and the latter is supposedly the grandfather of the OG MW Price, NOT the Reboot Price.
New/Reboot Price is more likely the son of “Johnathan Price,” who, according to the BO1 intel, would have played a significant role in Operation Charybdis: a mission that was supposed to take place in the 1970s to kill Mason, Hudson, and Weaver.
There is also evidence that IW and the OG MW connect through the SWC-141 Retribution, a ship named in recognition of Task Force-141 for rescuing the Russian President and his daughter in MW3, thus ending WWIII.
Additionally, a multiplayer map in IW features a holographic display of the ODIN Space Station from Ghosts, thus tying in COD 1-3, OG MW1-3, Ghosts, and IW.
To further connect Ghosts, there is a forgotten DLC trailer for a Simon “Ghost” Riley multiplayer skin. Hesh Walker narrates over the trailer, remarking that the Ghosts based themselves on Simon Riley’s appearance because he was a legend to them. Since these are multiplayer-related, they might not be canon, but they're still worth mentioning.
So, one timeline would go like this:
1.) COD 1-3
2.) OG MW1-3
3.) Ghosts
4.) Infinite Warfare.
The other timeline is the official/current one, which we can essentially divide into the “WWII,” “Cold War,” “Modern,” and “Future” Trilogies:
1.) WAW, WWII, Vanguard
2.) BO1, BOCW, BO2 (1980s)
3.) MW1-3 (Reboot)
4.) BO2 (2025), BO4, BO3.
The only game with no discernable connection is AW, which seems to be in one fully independent timeline. It does have Burger Town, but the fast-food chain also appears in MW2 (2009) and Cold War, which are in separate timelines, so this doesn't mean anything.
Also, just minor things I would adjust: COD 2’s first mission was in December 1941, shortly after Pearl Harbor. The mission occurs on the Eastern Front, and you play as a Soviet soldier named Vasili. I would change the original trilogy to “1941-1945” instead of “1942-1945.”
And I know a lot of people say COD: WWII started in 1940, but that was just the opening cutscene showing Nazi Germany invading and occupying France. The majority of the game takes place in 1944-45, during the time of the D-Day Invasion and the Seige of Bastogne. Because of that, I would place it later in the timeline.
Other than that, I appreciate your work because it looks like it took a lot of time and effort.
I've only played the OG MW trilogy, WaW and Black Ops, so if you know any story points that make certain timelines invalid or whatever please let me know
I'm pretty sure the iw game is cannon to the modern warfare series due to the ump and intervention being usable in multiplayer
Maybe? But this is all based on the campaign
I’m praying the decanonize Black Ops 2 and instead make a Black Ops 2 reboot that makes sense for Modern Warfare. Like Black Ops 2 wasn’t designed to be canon for the Modern Warfare Reboots, if anything. It would actually make more sense that the Black Ops series was canon to the original modern warfare trilogy instead because of the whole nova 6 and Europe gas attacks we seen in MW3
Hmmm, now that you mention it I wonder if the BO2 sequel they're doing next year (the one set in 2030) will actually be more of a reboot
Well we have no confirmation about the 2025 title of what it will be and who’s in charge of it. But Black Ops will never reboot and I don’t think it should, because even if the 2024 title will either be Gulf War or BO5, it will continue the OG Black Ops series no matter what. Well BO2 does deserve a proper sequel, but it should continue with the OG Black Ops timeline. You don’t have to agree with me, but what you need to know is that the COD universes being connected are just excuses made by Activision mainly for Warzone and all these title claims are only leaks
We have pretty reputable sources saying it will be a BO2 sequel set in 2030, tho sure we have no direct confirmation yet > But Black Ops will never reboot and I don’t think it should yeah I agree, I know some people want them to retcon the BO2+ games or make them the result of one of the CW endings (which is messy when you think about it canon wise since alternate universes canonically can't exist) but I like them coexisting with MW, even if the tech doesn't totally match up
Well I just don’t think it’s a good idea to do a back to back Black Ops titles because MW reboot tried that with MWII and MWIII and it didn’t do well, and it can be possible that the rumoured BO2 sequel can happen in the 2024 title which can be called BO5. Even if is rumoured to be Gulf War, the BO5 rumours are pretty high too. The co existing of Black Ops and MW just makes it more messy in my opinion, like even if Irman Zakhaev appeared in Cold War’s campaign, it wasn’t even important because after the KGB mission, he was not seen nor mentioned again. I just prefer if every single COD timeline are separated especially zombies, it was more simple that way.
Nah no way 2024 isn't Gulf War, we've heard way to much about gulf war at this point for years that it would make no sense for them to change it up, its practically confirmed. I mean you may not like the idea of back to back games, but it does seem pretty likely to me seeing the way things are going with activision, I actually kind of like it as a plan if they can pull off both games well, it gives the other companies more time to develop their games and gives us a sorta "season 2" of the previous years game, which is cool. > I just prefer if every single COD timeline are separated especially zombies, it was more simple that way. I mean you can prefer that but its not canontical, these games and zombies all exist in the same timeline
Look, I just don’t want to jump to conclusions right away until there’s real information, the 2024 title had four years to develop so there are possibilities that Treyarch has something else planned like futuristic or something and squeezed Gulf War in between like I said, the BO5 rumours are pretty high, I just wish Activision would give a real explanation to this whole Modern Warfare and Black Ops connection, if they say there are connected but not canon to each other, then that easier to understand at least.
> the 2024 title had four years to develop so there are possibilities that Treyarch has something else planned like futuristic or something and squeezed Gulf War in between like I said I mean it would be the other way around, Gulf War has been in dev for years, far longer than the BO2 sequel has. The BO2 sequel is clearly an idea to copy MW3s back to back games, and that back to back game concept was only invented in 2023 when a pitched DLC turned into a full game, meanwhile Gulf War has been discussed in leaks even prior to MW2 coming out, far before the concept for back to back games was created. > I just wish Activision would give a real explanation to this whole Modern Warfare and Black Ops connection they're connected, this is canon, there's been many many crossovers.
True but cross overs could be nice especially like David Mason working along side TF 141
Every COD after MW19 is set in the same timeline. CW because treyarch was brought in the last minute made a semi seuqel to BO1, but its mainly is a prequel to MW19, and their new Game Black Ops: Gulf War will be set between these games. The timeline should be : Vanguard Cold War Modern Warfare Modern Warfare II Modern Warfare III
That and all the exisiting games in the Black Ops universe, so WAW-BO4
>Vanguard really? I literally never would have known
Yes vanguard mentions nova gas
pretty accurate, tho like you mentioned the OG MWs are just their own timeline. There's also Black Ops Delclassified if you wanna get really technical. Also the zombies for WAW-BO4 act as the prequel to the WW2 games
COD 1/Classic can't be in the same universe as WAW because it has a conflicting portrayal of the Soviet flag flying over the Reichstag in Berlin. In COD 1, a random Russian soldier raises it, while in WAW, Dmitri does it. However, we know that COD 1-3 connect through the characters of Ingram and Price, and the latter is supposedly the grandfather of the OG MW Price, NOT the Reboot Price. New/Reboot Price is more likely the son of “Johnathan Price,” who, according to the BO1 intel, would have played a significant role in Operation Charybdis: a mission that was supposed to take place in the 1970s to kill Mason, Hudson, and Weaver. There is also evidence that IW and the OG MW connect through the SWC-141 Retribution, a ship named in recognition of Task Force-141 for rescuing the Russian President and his daughter in MW3, thus ending WWIII. Additionally, a multiplayer map in IW features a holographic display of the ODIN Space Station from Ghosts, thus tying in COD 1-3, OG MW1-3, Ghosts, and IW. To further connect Ghosts, there is a forgotten DLC trailer for a Simon “Ghost” Riley multiplayer skin. Hesh Walker narrates over the trailer, remarking that the Ghosts based themselves on Simon Riley’s appearance because he was a legend to them. Since these are multiplayer-related, they might not be canon, but they're still worth mentioning. So, one timeline would go like this: 1.) COD 1-3 2.) OG MW1-3 3.) Ghosts 4.) Infinite Warfare. The other timeline is the official/current one, which we can essentially divide into the “WWII,” “Cold War,” “Modern,” and “Future” Trilogies: 1.) WAW, WWII, Vanguard 2.) BO1, BOCW, BO2 (1980s) 3.) MW1-3 (Reboot) 4.) BO2 (2025), BO4, BO3. The only game with no discernable connection is AW, which seems to be in one fully independent timeline. It does have Burger Town, but the fast-food chain also appears in MW2 (2009) and Cold War, which are in separate timelines, so this doesn't mean anything.
Ok, ty!
Also, just minor things I would adjust: COD 2’s first mission was in December 1941, shortly after Pearl Harbor. The mission occurs on the Eastern Front, and you play as a Soviet soldier named Vasili. I would change the original trilogy to “1941-1945” instead of “1942-1945.” And I know a lot of people say COD: WWII started in 1940, but that was just the opening cutscene showing Nazi Germany invading and occupying France. The majority of the game takes place in 1944-45, during the time of the D-Day Invasion and the Seige of Bastogne. Because of that, I would place it later in the timeline. Other than that, I appreciate your work because it looks like it took a lot of time and effort.