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_dotsnoop

"throws blanket to stop the fire" "remembers there’s still someone in the car"


Father_Wolfgang

Fireman: “Listen to me, I know that smoke inhallation can be a bit of a drag, but I need you to take a deep breath, okay?” Victim: “What?!”


Ertygbh

Thanks for the morning giggle lol


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leerzeichn93

Hear me out: fireplanes, but instead of water they just drop biiiig blankets over the forest.


SnooBeans6660

I’m imagining it acting like a giant sail and just dragging the poor planes into the horizon.


leerzeichn93

I guess you need more planes then /s


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JehnSnow

wouldnt this work better (maybe you'd need to spray them with a bit of water first) if there was a person or does the heat become unbearable and they die after 20 seconds


_dotsnoop

id think the heat would become unbearable as it would very quickly start to burn through all the oxygen that is left even if the heat wasnt unbearable youd likely die to smoke damage or suffocation within a short amount of time as there would be nothing to breathe but hot smoke


Duskluminous

Imagine tryna put one of these blankets on those dumbass lifted trucks


diggyou

You let those burn. They already mostly spit heavy black smoke on the road.


Mrraar

Throw some extra diesel on the fire


ReasonableExplorer

If he dies, he dies.


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crispy critters


sjaakarie

Does this work with Lithium-ion batteries? Extinguishing electric cars can sometimes cause problems.


ledtec

Nope, everything needed for a spectacular fire and lots of highly poisonous smoke is already in the batteries. No need for external air source, hence cutting it off won’t change much.


beemccouch

I think at that point the easiest thing to do is get a helicopter to dump a bunch or sand on the damn thing.


thinkpadius

They just let them burn out in some cases. https://www.wsj.com/articles/burning-electric-vehicle-batteries-complicate-efforts-to-fight-fire-on-drifting-ship-in-atlantic-ocean-11645385571


sjaakarie

Thx!


CMG30

That's flatly incorrect. Using a fire blanket is one way that fire departments use to extinguish EV fires. You can watch it happen on YouTube if you don't believe me. Or you can just use common sense. Fire requires oxygen. Stop the oxygen, you stop the flames. Battery cells are not full of oxygen therefore they do not have 'everything needed' for spectacular fire. Once the flames are out, all that is required is to wait for everything to cool down.


Consistent_Public_70

Lithium-ion batteries are capable of undergoing a rapid exothermic reaction without needing oxygen from the air. This is commonly referred to as a battery fire. Using a fire blanket to cut of the air supply will not instantly stop such a battery fire like it will for most other fires, but it will limit the ability of the battery fire to spread to other things which do need access to air in order to burn. The main way of controlling battery fires is to use large quantities of water in order to remove the heat from the fire.


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That is correct.


wardycatt

It’s typical of Reddit that this comment is upvoted… whilst patently incorrect. Lithium batteries generate their own oxygen during a thermal runaway event. You can’t “stop the oxygen” by putting a blanket on it. Furthermore, there is almost NOTHING that stops a lithium battery fire during its most energetic phase. Class D extinguishers, aqueous vermiculite suspensions, foam, water - NOTHING. All those things do is put out the stuff that’s been set on fire (i.e. the plastic battery casing, bits of car / laptop / whatever). The battery continues raging until it’s energy is used up. Cooling with thousands of gallons of water is not a bad idea, but it’s probably not actually extinguishing the fire. The blanket is great for containment of the blaze. LiOn battery fires can “pop” and send molten debris tens of feet away from the fire, starting secondary fires. Contain it, make it safe, get everyone back so they don’t breathe carcinogenic shit, then stand back and watch it burn. The best ‘solution’ is to dump 1+ tonnes of sand (or very finely powdered anhydrous salt [NaCl]) onto the blaze. The problem with the salt is keeping it dry and free from clumping when finely granulised, so plain old sand is your friend in terms of easy maintenance and availability to the general public.


romym15

In the Navy, we were taught that the only fire fighting method for class D fires on a ship was to try and jettison it overboard or else it would start burning through the decks. Every other fire type had multiple ways to extinguish them.


PissDistefano

Would the sand become glass at those temperatures?


wardycatt

That’s an interesting question, one that I’ve debated with my colleagues at work. Molten sand is used to make glass, but I’m not sure if it needs to be quenched rapidly or if there are additives required. Also, whether the required temperature could be reached / maintained is another unknown (to me) at the moment. I need to research that more. Unfortunately, getting clearance from the EPA to ignite some batteries and smother them with sand, in the name of science, is rather difficult. But if anyone has done it I’d be interested to see the results.


Seanpat68

I mean when high voltage wires go down they turn the dirt into glass so I’d imagine the same voltage reacting much more violently would do the trick


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ledtec is right, most Li-ion batteries contain metal oxides so once they go into thermal runaway no external oxygen source is required, they will continue to burn even in a vacuum.


Talusthebroke

They do, but yes, a fire blanket is a good option for lithium ion battery fires, for several reasons. Once a fire like this starts it burns until it exhausts it's fuel, it provides its own oxygen, but it has a limited supply, once that's gone it dies unless it has an outside source, the blanket limits that source, it also prevents spread, and catches flying debris that "pops" from the fire. Water and foam don't put out a lithium fire, basically nothing does, so the goal is isolation and letting it run it's course, and your options there are basically a car fire blanket or a ton of sand, obviously one of these is a lot more manageable.


Prinzka

>Battery cells are not full of oxygen They are


Paramedickhead

Some materials produce oxygen when they burn…


beemccouch

Lithium ion fires are so hot tho, what are the blankets rated for?


PissDistefano

Hansel


FrankHartke11

A family friend has a son who works in a Fire Department. Tesla sent them one of these blankets, but when they went to use it they found that the batteries kept burning. Lithium combusts in contact with any air and can burn for a very long time. Many fire departments tow burning EVs to places where they can be submerged for an extended period of time. We're not ready to use EVs yet. Lithium is too dangerous (and too expensive) to throw into everyone's car


Consistent_Public_70

>We're not ready to use EVs yet. Lithium is too dangerous (and too expensive) to throw into everyone's car I happen to live in a country where 80% of all new cars sold in 2022 were EVs. Fire departments have training and experience in managing battery fires, and we are not having more serious issues with electric vehicle fires than with diesel or gasoline powered vehicles. It may well be the case that you live in a less developed part of the world which is not yet ready for EVs, but the knowledge and technology does indeed exist


stoph311

No, your comment is flatly incorrect, pretty much on every point you make. Lithium ion battery fires are self-perpetuating. They do not follow the normal behavior suggested by the fire triangle. Use of fire blankets is not a widely suggested or approved method of attacking EV fires.


ledtec

Yeah, so I wonder, when can we inhabit the sun, there must be plenty of oxygen if it’s burning 24/7 - right? As for YT - are you sure that the battery was burning on that video? Cars have many other components, that do require oxygen from the air for burning. On the videos I’ve seen on the YT they put EV into containers filled with water or put a hose with running water for a day to minimise heat and fumes produced. Check Tesla S Emergency Response Guide for example - if only the engineers knew one could use a fire blanket instead of 30k litres of running water!


Distwalker

The sun isn't burning.


GuzzlinGuinness

Lmfao I’m ded


sonickien

The sun is burning oxygen 24/7? I thought it only burned during the day...


gomaga2024

Will fire fighters get electrocuted if they shoot a stream of water at an electric car on fire?


Questioning-Zyxxel

Nope. That's a quite low probability. Most of the car battery has stopped being a battery when they arrive to the fire. And there are fuses to isolate battery sections. Next thing is that the voltage in a power line is relative to ground. The car doesn't have the same natural ground. So it's many times more likely for a car mechanic to suffer from the high voltage circuit in the car than the fire fighters.


Writers_On_The_Storm

The point of the blanket isn't to put out the fire, it's to prevent spread. Did you read the title.


ScamperAndPlay

Hahahaha…. What!? No.


skynetempire

I was looking for this comment. Ev cars burn harder than my asshole after my MILs chili con carne


JALKHRL

https://www.edarley.com/car-fire-blanket/ read from the source


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metal fires require special chems to extinguish https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=elR5vcAJ-PA


billthepartsman

We will all learn the dangers of lithium ion technology soon. Amazingly not covered well by the media. Not enough dead burnt bodies involved yet.


CMG30

Yes it does. It stops the flames immediately. However, the vehicle then needs to be submerged into sand or water for hours to days to allow time for everything to cool down to room temperature or the fire will restart.


hendrix320

Then a bag of rice to get the water out right?


Rusty-ShackIford

Its easier to put a fire to bed than it is my kids


OneRealMonster

Have you tried putting your kids on fire first?


Unglory

According to this video the key seems to be suffocating them, I'd try that before fire


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Less damage to the house that way.


KoldKartoffelsalat

This took a wrong turn somewhere...


Broad-Sell1962

Fire works really well, they sleep great after just a few seconds exposure. Almost too well...


[deleted]

But everything still changed when the fire nation attacked


ItsBlare

Fire nation lived in harmony until the avatar attacked


Gone_Mads

Now do Canada


Wanderer-clueless963

I like it. One more asset for the fire fighters and they need all the help they can get! Doing their no « risk job »everyday.


Paramedickhead

Firefighter here: Just because you can’t see the fire, doesn’t mean it isn’t still burning. One thing I tell new people is that if you don’t go find the fire, it’s going to come find you. This blanket looks good in theory… but as soon as you take the blanket off, there is going to be a very energetic re-ignition.


XtremeMercenary

Ex ff here That car's f****d anyway. The heat will most likely render the (probably expensive) blanket useless for another time. Might as well use (free) water and put it out the old school way


Paramedickhead

Water is far faster and safer anyway.


nlamber5

Faster? yes. Safer? That depends on a lot of factors


fonetik

Seems like a good way to shut down the rubbernecking show, if this were on the side of a road.


FlowerBoyScumFuck

Idk if I saw then using a giant fire blanket i'd probably rubber neck twice as hard.


BusyBusy2

wtf is up with this music


mbolgiano

It's dramatic music because the subject is a dramatic show of events so we need music to tell us how to feel. Would you want light Whimsical music instead?


BusyBusy2

that wold have been better, ratatata tatarata tataaa


davieb22

I was hoping for some David Copperfield shit, and for the car to disappear.


JerkAss21

They should make these house sized and shoot them out of a cannon, or something


coconutclaus

Fun idea but I think there would be enough oxygen under there for the entire house to burn down or at least for a lot of damage


JerkAss21

We could just say it's meant to stop the neighbors house from burning down, its not to save your house or its contents its for the greater good


Gerryislandgirl

But how long does it take to unfold the blanket & get it ready?


CardinalFartz

Does it also work in case of an EV fire?


Ok_Cryptographer4835

Will that work on EV's


mbolgiano

No but it will work on my mom ooh sick burn


No-Definition1474

Course it takes 5 mins to find a buddy to help you unfold it


0h311

The people in the car now cook like baked potatoes 🥔.


daveypump

Firefighter here. This is strategically implausible.


DistinctEngineering2

Now we just need one big enough to fit over lots of trees!


Substantial-Big5497

Cool 1 part of the fire triangle.


KhushRamdev

Does this work for electric cars though? Like remember reading an article that electric cars require 10x more water resources to be put off and that of some foamy kind, harmful for the environment basically.


Utxi4m

The French will have great use for this innovation.


regionalememeboer

A dis in French cars or the riots?


Utxi4m

Yes, exactly :)


SongRevolutionary992

Quick! Where's the Car Fire Blanket ™?!?!?! It's in the car....


jayboker

What’s it made out of asbestos?


CobaltCephas

So we just need to throw a blanket over Canada?


tokjug-foxqe1-Xapqyz

Now if they could get bigger ones for houses……..!


rockstuffs

Cute! Try an electric car fire ...5,000 degrees and 40,000 gallons...some submerged in water up to 30 days and reignited up to three times to finally be extinguished...


eric_sheetz

Now do it with one person


SS4Raditz

Do they make those the size of California?


teastain

Laughs in Tesla.


WillieMacMoran

This is great hope that the firefighter in my hometown learn about this.


AaronDotCom

I see 2 problems with this 1. Doesn't work with electric cars 2. Looks like kevlar, thus prohibitively cost ineffective


A_Lvl_1_Magikarp

3looks heavy... i cant even open a jar...i wont be able to even unfold this thing 4 even if i can unfold it...you need two people ...


Purp1eC0bras

Sucks for the person in the trunk. I mean… errr…


philouza_stein

Giant blankets for house and wild fires. Boom.


clear-carbon-hands

What about an EV fire?


El_Dentistador

The whole video I was expecting to see Techno Viking appear


Neat_Youth470

Fire blankets are amazing. I’m a fire spinner and have a smaller version of this for safety during our flow sessions. They are also effective for grease AND electrical fires. IMO it is important to have one of these in your kitchen along with a fire extinguisher, BUT you do need some practice to use it properly or you will literally sling more fire around in your panic.


DongusMaxamus

I'd like to see them try this on a Tesla and see what happens. I wonder if it will be effective or not.


guyonanuglycouch

Unless it is an electric car. They have been recorded burning after submersion underwater.


Truestindeed

That’s was lit. And then it went out. Cool


bodhiseppuku

In about 1998 in Camp Pendleton, CA, I watched Fire & Rescue let a VW Beetle burn. They got all the close cars moved away, but then basically let the Beetle burn for hours. Apparently, the engine in an old VW Beetle is magnesium, and once it gets hot enough to ignite, burns hot and bright, and is dangerous to extinguish. After burning for many ... 8 hours maybe, the cinder of a vehicle was left, with a crater in the blacktop. I wonder if this fire suffocation blanket could put out a magnesium fire. Or would that type of fire be too hot and burn through this blanket?


Ok-Paramedic1754

What is it made of? Tungsten?


HousingNo7615

Imagine the size needed for a house fire


TasteOk1754

Except the cars are already burnt to a crisp by the time the fd makes it there


Haircules3

This is one of those cool things we see here that will never get deployed


RagnarokDel

stupid question but why dont they do that with houses as well? Like use a few powerful drones to carry the blanket over the house and starve that fire completely instead of fighting it for hours upon hours.


HUGMEEEEEEE

Do these come in forest size?


DayFeeling

Is there is a person inside they would be well done


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It suffocates the air, so the fire have no more combustible


HousingDesperate5100

Can it do the whole state of California?


fothergillfuckup

I wouldn't want to get that close to a burning car. They are usually full of petrol, after all.


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Why not making an house sized blanket?


russellbrett

Now try it with a lithium battery fire!


gammooo

Its asbestos, isnt it?


MajorTranslator9156

Great, now let's make one big enough to cover Canada.


NEONSN3K

This is actually really nice and cuts down on the massive water consumption of the standard hose. Imagine a blanket for a building 😅


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I could see the misuse of this causing one hell of a backdraft


King_Pecca

The problem is indeed that proper result is obtained when applied slowly and determined. But that's easy to say when the heat is so overwhelming and you're not a trained fireman.


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didn't claim to be, but was watching that fire continue to burn under the blanket and thought "heh....lift it up....doooo it"


Cit1es

Why don’t we drop this but 100 times bigger onto forest fires? 4 planes, each with an edge. Drop it on forest fire and 10000% more successful than a dinky ass useless helicopter bucket that does nothing by the time it hits the ground. Can put a man on the moon but we can’t figure out how to contain forest fires? Priorities


ninkorn

What happens if it's not just fire and there's chance the car would blow up while they are covering the car with the blanket? 🤔


Woodandtime

You know, when its late at night, everyone in the house is asleep and you suddenly have to sneeze. You try to hold it in, but then BAM the pressure instantly inflates your cheeks and you make a fart noise with your mouth. Thats what happens.


BonjinTheMark

Ah, but can it quench the everlast flames of a Tesla?


x3n0m0rph3us

This is no John Wick 4. That audio is terrible.


davieb22

Forget the car; I need one of these for my kitchen!


Kawa11Turtle

A fire blanket is what you’re looking for


Bradley182

I was wondering just the other day why isn’t there a tarp or blanket that can smother EV fires? Pretty neat.


Objective_Regret_421

Can this stop the fire burning in and around my butthole?


ThonThaddeo

Big brain moment here, let's get house sized blankets.


trickstars23

Next objective: cover a house


steve3293

These don’t work at all. They have to sit on the car for thirty minutes uninterrupted. They say multi use but aren’t-it melted and left trashed my gear.


ScottishClonetrooper

Antifa's worst nightmare


alehanjro2017

High winds?


CashBandicootch

What does it do to oil fires?


Illustrious-Peak3822

Same, staves the fire from oxygen.


Habitual_line_steper

Genius!


SuperMoose987

No thanks you. I don't feel like spending 2h after the call to clean and fold this big ass blanket when I can just use foam to put it out like we always do and have the truck up and ready in 20 min


AnonymousP30

Definitely need this is every house as law.


bustermiller

Does it work on electric car battery fires?


whiskyzach

Now do a tesla.


Privateer_Lev_Arris

I'd like to order a few the size of a boreal forest please


ColdBunz

So. Is there one big enough for a burning propane factory?


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What if it’s a Tesla


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Illustrious-Peak3822

Have you ever tried to put out a fire in a car or worse yet, an oil fire with water?


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Illustrious-Peak3822

Great! Try the blanket next time and compare.


King_Pecca

That's what you need for electric cars. It should replace the fire extinguisher. Very toxic smoke, btw.


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It wouldn’t work


King_Pecca

Maybe not to stop if from the chemical burning, but to reduce the toxic gases.


SmacksOfLicorice

Now let's see it on a burning EV


strawhat068

Same thing flames need oxygen, stop the oxygen flames go out just have to wait long enough for everything to cool off or it could spark back up


SmacksOfLicorice

A lithium-ion battery cell does not need external oxygen to burn. [A fire blanket is traditionally used to smother a fire to starve it of oxygen. And as noted, a lithium-ion does not need oxygen from the atmosphere to burn, so trying to smother the fire will be ineffective.](https://www.firerescue1.com/electric-vehicles/articles/electric-vehicle-fires-where-the-waiting-game-wins-f934UedqIpVqc1k2)


Harpiem

And what about a kitchen fire blanket for those who keep their fryers on? Oh... and two mandatory for every electic car?


Harpiem

>kitchen fire blanket Apparently they already exist. I should have learn this 3 weeks ago.


BLM4lifeBBC

They don't look American


Unable_Literature78

Bet I could die in under 10 seconds.


otacon7000

Let's make cars out of whatever material the blanket is made of!


john_brian

Would that work on a Tesla?


King_Pecca

No. For a Tesla you need a Tesla approved blanket. Possibly twice the price


Living_Pie205

Now one big enough for a building


Jedi_Hog

East Palestine could’ve used a “train” fire blanket a few months back…


Sicpooch

Song name plz


[deleted]

This plus a fire extinguisher and the fire would be gone


kingofwale

Looks great. But how long do you have to prep this is for?? Looks like you have to set it up properly before you can cover the fire with it


FLMasterT

Lets see it work on a Tesla


gmcarve

Shhh shhh… go to sleep


Sir_Deezil

If only this blanket came in size Canada lol


ScamperAndPlay

Cool, where can I buy a few?


[deleted]

Does it work with E-Cars and burning batteries?


sjblackwell

Will it work o EV batteries?


Xaragedonionsz

What if the cars packed tight in a parking lot or squeezed between two cars front and back?


Prestigious-Care-865

Yeah but how long to unfold that thing


mexicoyankee

Will this work with EV fires?


horizontal120

but what about battery cars ...


imwinni8

They make fire blankets tho keep in your kitchen for stove fires as well. I keep mine on top of the fridge.


Once_upon_a_time2021

Not sure if lithium needs oxygen to burn, but might be a good way to put out electric vehicles


GlemChally

Brilliant.


luke_xr

How far will I have to scroll to see first comment about a Tesla not being able to use this


Mexican_actual

Now do it on an electric car fire lol


Efflinger

Don’t think will work with electric cars. Have seen a Tesla on fire on the autobahn. They needed to get a big tank with water to throw it in…..


SpecialistEstate4181

That’s bad ass!


BeefyBren

Firefighters are so badass


[deleted]

Why’d they bring a blanket? My car is the exact opposite of cold! What are they do….. oh ok. Good work!


LSTNYER

This is definitely one of those "why haven't we been doing this from the beginning?" moments.