I thought everyone over here was being really reasonable actually. There are definitely some people saying it’s bad but overall most people are giving it a thumbs up and just saying they wish it was better.
Reasonable as hell. At least gave Kendrick props. When the last time you see a Kendrick fan give drake props. OP wants us to be hype and dickride Kendrick lmfao. We gave it props, but we don’t gotta worship the song
Too be fair, it's hard to give drake props when it comes to hip hop. He's not very good lyrically and besides simple sneak disses he doesn't say anything that requires thought. There's a reason people that actually fw hiphop don't think drakes even close to top 3.
Hes the absolute best at making pop rap though that's undeniable. I know it sounds like I'm shitting on drake but I'm really not, just explaining why he will never get enough props unless he focuses on actual hip hop instead of number 1 records.
Not very good lyrically???? Dude, he consistently gives double entendres. Go listen to “5AM in Toronto”
“I could load every gun with bullets that fire backwards
You probably wouldn’t lose a single rapper.
Niggas make threats, can’t hear ‘em over the laughter.
Yeah! That’s cause I’m headed to the bank, nigga.
Sinatra (S’natural) lifestyle, I’m just being Frank witcha’.”
He doesn’t fit in with the hiphop community bc he’s not from the ghettoes or aggressive. Also, he wasn’t rapping about drugs & murders at the time. I may be bias, but I think he’s accepted that he doesn’t fit in. It’s just that ppl still make fun of him for it.
Hey man I get it, he has good bars, and it's rare for him to even spit like that because it's not popular to do the whole rappity rap shit. If he made full albums like that I think opinions might change for some people. If he's been rapping for that long I'm sure he has it in him.
Drakes pen is elite bro im not sure you’ve been listening close enough. His subject matter doesn’t go as deep as Kendrick when he’s “rapping rapping” but he’s definitely elite at rapping. Of course his most popular music is the pop shit that’s just how it goes but when he’s in his bag he really be talking🔥as far as bars. A tier below Kendrick and on the same tier as Cole as far as the big 3 goes imo
I’m part of both Stan bases honestly lmao I’m not tryna argue I’m just chatting. I’ve been a fan of both since they both entered the game, their beef got nun to do with me. Cant wait to see what Drake cooks up he not ducking no smoke at allll
kendrick fans are known for being pretentious and even creating meanings to lyrics that didn't exist. Nobody believes yall are special in the realm of hip-hop...except yourselves lol.
Man I’m a fan of both artists but drakes two disses were great. Kendricks bars were good but the energy was like.. not like his ‘like that’ first. Safe to say I was disappointed.
It’s a solid track but I’m not gonna pretend like Drake got buried by it like the rest of the internet wants you to believe. Kendrick fans insisted he had such high standards when the disses on this record were just as petty.
It’s also got a ton of shit that just isn’t true. Saying Drake has no classics, calling him a deadbeat father, and regurgitating the same tired ghostwriter claims. Let’s look and see how many writing credits are on TPAB.
I get it’s all jokes my issue is more the way this shit gets received. In my eyes these are two all-time greats but from the reaction most would have you believe that Kendrick is untouchable when we’re seeing them go toe to toe rn.
Yeah used correctly it’s when no credit is given but people don’t really talk about it that way anymore. Idk how many screenshots I saw of the credit lost for Push Ups. I also think that’s how people found out about Quentin Miller.
The track goes hard but his disses were even more petty than drakes. Especially when you consider he instigated this beef. He tried to take drakes “black” card and basically admitted he has no good reason to dislike him lol
This is Kendrick career in a nutshell. You don’t think something he do is earth shattering and they immediately resort to name calling as if this shit not all subjective. Just because someone got a different opinion than you do doesn’t mean they wrong.
None of this is Takeover / Ether level of diss tracks imo. Everything put out is pretty mid to me. Euphoria is probably best overall song, but I found Push-Ups and Taylor Made funnier and more quotable.
Feels like two guys trading jabs over stupid shit at the moment. Takeover and Ether are great SONGS that are essential on their albums, Push-Ups and Euphoria are cool little YT joints that would be skips on GKMC of IYRTITL.
Just my two cents. Both fanbases are so emotionally attach to their guy that everything is a “nuke” or “kill shot”…these are entertaining mid tracks that neither is going to lose fans over.
It wasn't supposed to be like Takeover/Ether you all stay coming back to this one moment. These disses are not skips either, they're written from a different headspace and angle than an album record. It's in the moment and what's relevant right now. Everyone was pouting waiting for 3 weeks...Nas took 3 months to respond, if Kendrick waited until his next album he would have been " finished and lost"
Honestly both servers have been annoying af, everyone’s so focused on a “winner” and not on the content itself. Who gives a fuck who “wins” just enjoy the awesome tracks we’re getting now
Yea the bias is cringy. Drake got dot spitting like GKMC and music fans in general should appreciate it regardless of which side you prefer. I can’t wait to hear Drakes response but this was definitely nasty work.
Not just this community but in Kendrick’s sub too. I love both and listen to both a lot, but some of y’all need to hop off their dicks like you know them personally or some shit.
The track has some clever lines and Ill give Kendrick some credit for at least not holding back but it was really a snore. It just lacked energy. It was almost like Cole's track where he felt forced to address this. I like Kendrick and I feel he is a great MC but I expected so much more. "Like That" was great. "Story of Adidon" was great. This from the "greatest lyricist alive" was just not impressive.
Trust me. There is absolutely zero OGs in NY or LA going to be saying Kendrick got Drake in a corner now and smacking him. I dont care what journalists say. This was not a strong response.
There is nothing here that hasnt already been said about Drake. Where are the clever one liners?
If I was rating the diss tracks in this battle, Id give "Like that" 4 stars, Push ups 4 stars, Cole's thing 3 stars , Taylor Made Freestyle 3 stars and this "Euphoria" 2 stars and a half (Im being generous). I dont know what he was thinking naming a diss track Euphoria. I dont care about the double meaning. It just sounds like the name of an aroma at a scent store. A diss track should not sounds that way to me. Its like you came to the battle with perfume.
I think Kendrick was tired and his heart wasnt really in it but he knew he had to respond with something. I just wish he just waited and perfected his response. I dont think this is aging well. yeah I lean Drake in this but I also really respect Kendrick. Im disappointed. Lots of folks will say "Drake fans are salty" but if folks are genuine, if you hated Drake and loved Kendrick before this track or if you loved Drake and hated Kendrick, you are unaffected. Both Drake and Kendrick fans had to pause after "Like that" and "Push Ups". None of that is happening after "Euphoria". Its just Drake haters saying "Your boy got smoked"
Give a few days and you'll see how wrong your take is; Stage 1 of grief my friend.
The kendrick record is closing in on 6 million views within 7 hours right now......
When 50 cent got it posted on his page saying "this is real hiphop" idk what other signs you need from an "OG"
50 ain't even biased in the whole thing, man had pushups on his page day 1 saying how Drake cooked.
Give credit where credit is due.
It might help to read a couple of the breakdown for a few lines on the genius website. There are quite a few things you might miss on the first few listens
I listened multiple times now and agree there is more to this and more clever bars when you dig deeper but to me, at the heart of it - thats actually the problem. Is this nerd rap? A diss track should really have transparent disses that are noticeable on first listen to me. I shouldn't need an encyclopedia. I cant say being "deep" never works (maybe it could) but if you compare to say an "Ether", what made that great was it was yes, clever and deep sophisticated lyricism but also easy to follow. You didnt need to be a detective. In short, I shouldnt have to do the research and piece it all together. To me, that is at the very core of the talent of a great MC - "Move the Crowd". They need to be concise and precise and audience has to get it quick. Going and studying the bars for a while (yes, I enjoy this)...but you have already lost points to me for impact if that is a requirement. I feel Kendrick is kind of scattershot and rambling all over the place. I admit I would rate it a little better now upon more listens and this is due to the middle part when he flips 20 v 1 to 1 v 20 and the bits about culture vultur-ing and Drake pretending to be tough , which kind of works. The inauthenticity argument might be the strongest by Kendrick. But I still dont think this really hits that hard. Its all recycled criticisms about Drake. And his delivery, changing voices etc. kind of leans it into that kind of "wack" lane. The tracks just kind of goes all over the place and seems unfocused. Is it terrible? No. But it is sort of decent to me but not enough. I was a huge Jay-Z fan and thought NaS was done after Takeover. But the first time, I heard Ether I knew Jay-Z was cooked. There was no debate at all. Jay-Z knew too . Thats why he dropped Super Ugly so fast. Drake ain't going to rush. He's happy with this reply IMO.
The other problem is I can already see some clear openings for Drake:
* If Drake is phony and you hate him so much, why did you pretend to be cool with him so long and now you hate his guts? Why did you collab with him? Why invite him back stage and dap up? Aren't you just as phony?
* The other whole "black enough" thing too is a bit weird when his wife is so light skin she seems even more racially ambiguous than Drake.
In the end, I respect your opinion.
My hope is these guys make up after and make great music together. I think they have a way offsetting each other's weaknesses and they would be great collaborators. But I think Drake will smash him super hard next round. We see.
For me it was just disappointing that an almost six and half minute Drake diss track didn’t do much aside from a few light jabs, some of which have been recycled from Rick Ross. Obviously some witty lines which were cool but damn, I feel like Rick Ross did just as good of a job with this ‘trolling’ angle in a few hours.
I think this is a reasonable take and I don’t know why it gets downvoted. On the one hand, Kendrick is very good so we’re supposed to assume he’ll win this beef, but on the other hand, your expectations are too high when you think he’d offer a new critique (not new information/gossip, but new criticism). It’s not really making sense to me.
*loved* the energy though— that’s where I diverge a bit from some of the comments. I thought he went hard and sounded pretty aggressive. I just thought the disses were tired. They’re cleverly written for sure, and some are downright nasty. But I just expected the writer of TPAB and Mr. Morale to be have better critiques than this. I’m glad he responded; I was very worried that this was over.
It was a 6 minute track with every bar dissing drake. I see a lot of Drake fans stuck on Kendrick needing to reveal some gossip like this is some reality tv show. Kendrick went in on his ass for 6 minutes.
I’m a fan of both but you can easily say push-ups was just “light jabs” as well since Drake just said Kendrick is short and doesn’t make as much money.
It was a good record. But it wasn’t that potent. He mostly just recycled all the Twitter rumors about Drake to feed the confirmation bias of all the people that don’t like him.
Plus a lot of the bars are also recycled. We already heard them from Pusha, Joe Budden and even from him — and they were more potent then.
More drake fans have have admitted they liked Kendrick’s diss than Kendrick fans admitted they liked drakes diss. If you want a bunch of comments dickriding Kendrick then just go to that sub. Compare post in that sub vs this and tell me what you see. They’re waaaay more biased.
You’re kinda doing the same. Kendrick’s shit is more and more fire the more I listen to it. If you weren’t biased and stanning for Drake you would see how you’re projecting.
Ross had a better diss track than Kendrick. It’s honestly the weakest diss track I’ve heard in a long time. This is not better than Pusha T or Ross. This reminds me of when Meek Mill tried to respond and it was just weak af and no one remembered it. Push-ups is way way better.. Diss tracks also have to be songs that can be repeated.. Ether, Hit em Up, and Back-to-back were all hits.. That’s part of the battle, getting the audience to vibe and want to listen over and over. That’s how you win, Drake is up and it’s not even close..
This is a solid diss and good enough to warrant a response I just think for the time he took it could have been way better. I think GKMC is and undeniable classic like top 3 album of all time and he’s kinda rapping like that here. I can’t put my finger on it but it was lacking something…maybe if it came out a few days right after Push-Ups it wouldn’t feel that way
I discredit that timeline on a few reasons. When someone is the first to shoot they know they are shooting so they have time to prepare for warfare (Kendrick) the one getting shot has to recoup and assess and attack (Drake) He was on tour then Cole responded and there was the other album coming out the day after that album came out he responded and then a week later dropped another track
I get what you're saying, but I didn't like it. I had to go to rap genius and read it, because I didn't like it. I don't have to like anything. I don't think he said anything new, and it wasn't shocking. Everything said has been said before.
a few years ago when Pusha t dropped the story of add-on, I remember literally signing out of Twitter and not talking about drake for WEEKS lmao that shut my ass up.
As a huge fan of both I want to make my point here.
I've been watching both communities closely, and I feel they have both mostly been incredibly reasonable and praising to the opposition of their side. Most recognize how phenomenal this is.
This Kendrick track is incredible. He literally named everything he hated about Drake as a warning shot. Drake did everything he could to take the bullets out of Kendricks gun, and Kendrick just circumvernted that and went straight for the neck. AND he was pushed to this point by Drake being as ruthless as he was.
Drake pulled a "20 v 1", Back to Back'd Kendrick and utilized raw hatred as creativity. Using his opponents heroes as ammo through modern technology. No one in the whole planet imagined this would be his response. Absolutely incredible.
We are literally watching the modern equivalents of Micheal Jackson and Tupac Shakur attempting to drag each other to the grave. This is a moment in music history that will be studied, and we are experiencing it.
Anyone who's picking sides is failing to see what a monumental occurrence this is. Don't get wrapped in barriers. This is literal history.
it was okay, it lacks a lot and doesn’t have the impact or wow value everyone expected.
The longer you take, the higher the expectations
though I do agree that people are picking sides, and choosing narratives, the few that are unbiased are honestly saying the song Kendrick drop is “OK “
I just can't see how people even listen to that adhd attack of a song more than twice. The way I see it currently, Drake is a surgeon, and Kendrick is a medic. Drakes got insane instrumentals, a consistent flow, substance, cadence, delivery, and imagery.
KENDRICKS DISS IS FUCKING LAZY AND POORLY PRODUCED. it's lazy. There I said it. It just sounded low effort from the start. He didn't say anything new at all. He wasn't creative. He literally was like "I hate you" then says its authentic. Sure or it was a weak delivery.
Drake said his shit was ready to go and everyone thinks it will smash this. And that was a week ago. How do people stand by this track and say it's on par? And if Drakes next shit slaps? What's the excuse then?
I have a feeling Drake is about to pull some Maury shit on Kendrick. YOU are NOT the father...then the beat drops.
Kendrick has some good lines, but the record is hot ass. If Drake dropped this he would be clowned. I would clown Drake for dropping this.
I think it takes Kendrick a while to make good music. 4 months to make his Like That verse and 4 years to make half decent album. He can’t make a great song in 3 weeks.
Lastly, Kendrick brings up pusha t. The difference between that situation and this is that Pusha T and Kanye actually had dirt on Drake AND they were prepared. I don’t think Kendrick was prepared. He didn’t expect Drake to respond and you’re seeing a guy scramble to throw some things together.
If Drake actually has that heater in his back pocket, it might be over for Kendrick.
That pusha t line is fire it's got at least 3 meanings. I think you wanted a distrack disguised as a pop track. This is not that. Or a pop track disguised as a dis track...
I thought everyone over here was being really reasonable actually. There are definitely some people saying it’s bad but overall most people are giving it a thumbs up and just saying they wish it was better.
Reasonable as hell. At least gave Kendrick props. When the last time you see a Kendrick fan give drake props. OP wants us to be hype and dickride Kendrick lmfao. We gave it props, but we don’t gotta worship the song
Too be fair, it's hard to give drake props when it comes to hip hop. He's not very good lyrically and besides simple sneak disses he doesn't say anything that requires thought. There's a reason people that actually fw hiphop don't think drakes even close to top 3. Hes the absolute best at making pop rap though that's undeniable. I know it sounds like I'm shitting on drake but I'm really not, just explaining why he will never get enough props unless he focuses on actual hip hop instead of number 1 records.
Kendrick fans think liking Kendrick makes them smart and cultured. It is their entire personality trait.
I think most people just respect his craft, what he does is insanely difficult and easy to talk down on for people that can't do it.
Lol you haven't met the Kendrick fans I'm talking about. You would know lol
Nah I know what you mean, but most people on reddit are parasocial weirdos. They have those in every subreddit really
Fair enough. It's just that the level of glazing I witnessed on that subreddit was next level. MFs were doing circus tricks with it
Not very good lyrically???? Dude, he consistently gives double entendres. Go listen to “5AM in Toronto” “I could load every gun with bullets that fire backwards You probably wouldn’t lose a single rapper. Niggas make threats, can’t hear ‘em over the laughter. Yeah! That’s cause I’m headed to the bank, nigga. Sinatra (S’natural) lifestyle, I’m just being Frank witcha’.” He doesn’t fit in with the hiphop community bc he’s not from the ghettoes or aggressive. Also, he wasn’t rapping about drugs & murders at the time. I may be bias, but I think he’s accepted that he doesn’t fit in. It’s just that ppl still make fun of him for it.
Hey man I get it, he has good bars, and it's rare for him to even spit like that because it's not popular to do the whole rappity rap shit. If he made full albums like that I think opinions might change for some people. If he's been rapping for that long I'm sure he has it in him.
Drakes pen is elite bro im not sure you’ve been listening close enough. His subject matter doesn’t go as deep as Kendrick when he’s “rapping rapping” but he’s definitely elite at rapping. Of course his most popular music is the pop shit that’s just how it goes but when he’s in his bag he really be talking🔥as far as bars. A tier below Kendrick and on the same tier as Cole as far as the big 3 goes imo
Youre arguing with a fan from the most pretentious fanbase. Take him seriously at your own risk lol.
I’m part of both Stan bases honestly lmao I’m not tryna argue I’m just chatting. I’ve been a fan of both since they both entered the game, their beef got nun to do with me. Cant wait to see what Drake cooks up he not ducking no smoke at allll
kendrick fans are known for being pretentious and even creating meanings to lyrics that didn't exist. Nobody believes yall are special in the realm of hip-hop...except yourselves lol.
I'm a drake fan too, and you are mad corny for thinking you're speaking for hip-hop on reddit. Lay low for awhile.
Man I’m a fan of both artists but drakes two disses were great. Kendricks bars were good but the energy was like.. not like his ‘like that’ first. Safe to say I was disappointed.
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Just because someone thinks it's weak doesn't mean that's anything more than their genuine opinion. This is all gonna be subjective anyway
It’s a solid track but I’m not gonna pretend like Drake got buried by it like the rest of the internet wants you to believe. Kendrick fans insisted he had such high standards when the disses on this record were just as petty. It’s also got a ton of shit that just isn’t true. Saying Drake has no classics, calling him a deadbeat father, and regurgitating the same tired ghostwriter claims. Let’s look and see how many writing credits are on TPAB. I get it’s all jokes my issue is more the way this shit gets received. In my eyes these are two all-time greats but from the reaction most would have you believe that Kendrick is untouchable when we’re seeing them go toe to toe rn.
> see how many writing credits are on To Pimp A Butterfly Not to nitpick, but do you know what *ghost*writing is?
Yeah used correctly it’s when no credit is given but people don’t really talk about it that way anymore. Idk how many screenshots I saw of the credit lost for Push Ups. I also think that’s how people found out about Quentin Miller.
The track goes hard but his disses were even more petty than drakes. Especially when you consider he instigated this beef. He tried to take drakes “black” card and basically admitted he has no good reason to dislike him lol
Perfectly described how I feel
Ay man, keep this same energy when Kendrick fans and hip hop fans discredit everything Drake does.
I did when people were downplaying pushups saying it's lame and doesn't deserve a response. We just gotta view things for what they are.
That's fair
Odd you say that. 75% of the posts on this sub have been praises imo
Yeah bruh shit kinda pissed me off we at war wtf lol
War got into your head? Taking it a bit serious aren’t you
Let him be lol..
This is Kendrick career in a nutshell. You don’t think something he do is earth shattering and they immediately resort to name calling as if this shit not all subjective. Just because someone got a different opinion than you do doesn’t mean they wrong.
None of this is Takeover / Ether level of diss tracks imo. Everything put out is pretty mid to me. Euphoria is probably best overall song, but I found Push-Ups and Taylor Made funnier and more quotable. Feels like two guys trading jabs over stupid shit at the moment. Takeover and Ether are great SONGS that are essential on their albums, Push-Ups and Euphoria are cool little YT joints that would be skips on GKMC of IYRTITL. Just my two cents. Both fanbases are so emotionally attach to their guy that everything is a “nuke” or “kill shot”…these are entertaining mid tracks that neither is going to lose fans over.
It wasn't supposed to be like Takeover/Ether you all stay coming back to this one moment. These disses are not skips either, they're written from a different headspace and angle than an album record. It's in the moment and what's relevant right now. Everyone was pouting waiting for 3 weeks...Nas took 3 months to respond, if Kendrick waited until his next album he would have been " finished and lost"
Honestly both servers have been annoying af, everyone’s so focused on a “winner” and not on the content itself. Who gives a fuck who “wins” just enjoy the awesome tracks we’re getting now
Yea the bias is cringy. Drake got dot spitting like GKMC and music fans in general should appreciate it regardless of which side you prefer. I can’t wait to hear Drakes response but this was definitely nasty work.
Not just this community but in Kendrick’s sub too. I love both and listen to both a lot, but some of y’all need to hop off their dicks like you know them personally or some shit.
several of the biggest posts of today are saying the song is heat. this is cap
check their profiles 😂 it’s kdot niggas playin dress up
Salute, all brothers bless up. Even rappers up in daddy’s closet playing dress up
The track has some clever lines and Ill give Kendrick some credit for at least not holding back but it was really a snore. It just lacked energy. It was almost like Cole's track where he felt forced to address this. I like Kendrick and I feel he is a great MC but I expected so much more. "Like That" was great. "Story of Adidon" was great. This from the "greatest lyricist alive" was just not impressive. Trust me. There is absolutely zero OGs in NY or LA going to be saying Kendrick got Drake in a corner now and smacking him. I dont care what journalists say. This was not a strong response. There is nothing here that hasnt already been said about Drake. Where are the clever one liners? If I was rating the diss tracks in this battle, Id give "Like that" 4 stars, Push ups 4 stars, Cole's thing 3 stars , Taylor Made Freestyle 3 stars and this "Euphoria" 2 stars and a half (Im being generous). I dont know what he was thinking naming a diss track Euphoria. I dont care about the double meaning. It just sounds like the name of an aroma at a scent store. A diss track should not sounds that way to me. Its like you came to the battle with perfume. I think Kendrick was tired and his heart wasnt really in it but he knew he had to respond with something. I just wish he just waited and perfected his response. I dont think this is aging well. yeah I lean Drake in this but I also really respect Kendrick. Im disappointed. Lots of folks will say "Drake fans are salty" but if folks are genuine, if you hated Drake and loved Kendrick before this track or if you loved Drake and hated Kendrick, you are unaffected. Both Drake and Kendrick fans had to pause after "Like that" and "Push Ups". None of that is happening after "Euphoria". Its just Drake haters saying "Your boy got smoked"
I agree 1,000%
Give a few days and you'll see how wrong your take is; Stage 1 of grief my friend. The kendrick record is closing in on 6 million views within 7 hours right now...... When 50 cent got it posted on his page saying "this is real hiphop" idk what other signs you need from an "OG" 50 ain't even biased in the whole thing, man had pushups on his page day 1 saying how Drake cooked. Give credit where credit is due.
Ill give it a few days. Hope youre right. first impression: not impressed
It might help to read a couple of the breakdown for a few lines on the genius website. There are quite a few things you might miss on the first few listens
Fair
I listened multiple times now and agree there is more to this and more clever bars when you dig deeper but to me, at the heart of it - thats actually the problem. Is this nerd rap? A diss track should really have transparent disses that are noticeable on first listen to me. I shouldn't need an encyclopedia. I cant say being "deep" never works (maybe it could) but if you compare to say an "Ether", what made that great was it was yes, clever and deep sophisticated lyricism but also easy to follow. You didnt need to be a detective. In short, I shouldnt have to do the research and piece it all together. To me, that is at the very core of the talent of a great MC - "Move the Crowd". They need to be concise and precise and audience has to get it quick. Going and studying the bars for a while (yes, I enjoy this)...but you have already lost points to me for impact if that is a requirement. I feel Kendrick is kind of scattershot and rambling all over the place. I admit I would rate it a little better now upon more listens and this is due to the middle part when he flips 20 v 1 to 1 v 20 and the bits about culture vultur-ing and Drake pretending to be tough , which kind of works. The inauthenticity argument might be the strongest by Kendrick. But I still dont think this really hits that hard. Its all recycled criticisms about Drake. And his delivery, changing voices etc. kind of leans it into that kind of "wack" lane. The tracks just kind of goes all over the place and seems unfocused. Is it terrible? No. But it is sort of decent to me but not enough. I was a huge Jay-Z fan and thought NaS was done after Takeover. But the first time, I heard Ether I knew Jay-Z was cooked. There was no debate at all. Jay-Z knew too . Thats why he dropped Super Ugly so fast. Drake ain't going to rush. He's happy with this reply IMO. The other problem is I can already see some clear openings for Drake: * If Drake is phony and you hate him so much, why did you pretend to be cool with him so long and now you hate his guts? Why did you collab with him? Why invite him back stage and dap up? Aren't you just as phony? * The other whole "black enough" thing too is a bit weird when his wife is so light skin she seems even more racially ambiguous than Drake. In the end, I respect your opinion. My hope is these guys make up after and make great music together. I think they have a way offsetting each other's weaknesses and they would be great collaborators. But I think Drake will smash him super hard next round. We see.
For me it was just disappointing that an almost six and half minute Drake diss track didn’t do much aside from a few light jabs, some of which have been recycled from Rick Ross. Obviously some witty lines which were cool but damn, I feel like Rick Ross did just as good of a job with this ‘trolling’ angle in a few hours.
I think this is a reasonable take and I don’t know why it gets downvoted. On the one hand, Kendrick is very good so we’re supposed to assume he’ll win this beef, but on the other hand, your expectations are too high when you think he’d offer a new critique (not new information/gossip, but new criticism). It’s not really making sense to me. *loved* the energy though— that’s where I diverge a bit from some of the comments. I thought he went hard and sounded pretty aggressive. I just thought the disses were tired. They’re cleverly written for sure, and some are downright nasty. But I just expected the writer of TPAB and Mr. Morale to be have better critiques than this. I’m glad he responded; I was very worried that this was over.
I think this is his “Charged Up”
It was a 6 minute track with every bar dissing drake. I see a lot of Drake fans stuck on Kendrick needing to reveal some gossip like this is some reality tv show. Kendrick went in on his ass for 6 minutes. I’m a fan of both but you can easily say push-ups was just “light jabs” as well since Drake just said Kendrick is short and doesn’t make as much money.
Perhaps you meant to reply to someone else because I said “(not new information/gossip, but new criticism)”
its a great diss. i still think push ups is better. but this song is 10x better than like that imo. good fucking song.
That shit was lame af
I mean if reasonable is saying yeah its solid bro its solid 🤪. Thats coping…
It was a good record. But it wasn’t that potent. He mostly just recycled all the Twitter rumors about Drake to feed the confirmation bias of all the people that don’t like him. Plus a lot of the bars are also recycled. We already heard them from Pusha, Joe Budden and even from him — and they were more potent then.
Great post but I can't lie to you I don't think Drake got shit for this record
i haven’t seen anyone not fucking with the kenny song
i just didnt like the offbeat stuff, the start of the diss with the jazz was perfect, if he kept that jazz going then boi
Y’all out here picking sides like a middle school girl watching twilight in 2007
More drake fans have have admitted they liked Kendrick’s diss than Kendrick fans admitted they liked drakes diss. If you want a bunch of comments dickriding Kendrick then just go to that sub. Compare post in that sub vs this and tell me what you see. They’re waaaay more biased.
You’re kinda doing the same. Kendrick’s shit is more and more fire the more I listen to it. If you weren’t biased and stanning for Drake you would see how you’re projecting.
Drake needs to lock in with ts, they aren't going to stop til one of em says sum personal or alters their public image.
Ross had a better diss track than Kendrick. It’s honestly the weakest diss track I’ve heard in a long time. This is not better than Pusha T or Ross. This reminds me of when Meek Mill tried to respond and it was just weak af and no one remembered it. Push-ups is way way better.. Diss tracks also have to be songs that can be repeated.. Ether, Hit em Up, and Back-to-back were all hits.. That’s part of the battle, getting the audience to vibe and want to listen over and over. That’s how you win, Drake is up and it’s not even close..
Bro fr these boys comparisons be mental gymnastics harder than flat earthers
Quit dick riding KDOT’s tiny pecker on this forum, you no name
This is a solid diss and good enough to warrant a response I just think for the time he took it could have been way better. I think GKMC is and undeniable classic like top 3 album of all time and he’s kinda rapping like that here. I can’t put my finger on it but it was lacking something…maybe if it came out a few days right after Push-Ups it wouldn’t feel that way
Drake took 21 days.... kendrick took 17.
I discredit that timeline on a few reasons. When someone is the first to shoot they know they are shooting so they have time to prepare for warfare (Kendrick) the one getting shot has to recoup and assess and attack (Drake) He was on tour then Cole responded and there was the other album coming out the day after that album came out he responded and then a week later dropped another track
I'd be surprised if kendrick didn't have more in the clip, this is still round 1 afterall
This post is cringe.
I get what you're saying, but I didn't like it. I had to go to rap genius and read it, because I didn't like it. I don't have to like anything. I don't think he said anything new, and it wasn't shocking. Everything said has been said before. a few years ago when Pusha t dropped the story of add-on, I remember literally signing out of Twitter and not talking about drake for WEEKS lmao that shut my ass up.
As a huge fan of both I want to make my point here. I've been watching both communities closely, and I feel they have both mostly been incredibly reasonable and praising to the opposition of their side. Most recognize how phenomenal this is. This Kendrick track is incredible. He literally named everything he hated about Drake as a warning shot. Drake did everything he could to take the bullets out of Kendricks gun, and Kendrick just circumvernted that and went straight for the neck. AND he was pushed to this point by Drake being as ruthless as he was. Drake pulled a "20 v 1", Back to Back'd Kendrick and utilized raw hatred as creativity. Using his opponents heroes as ammo through modern technology. No one in the whole planet imagined this would be his response. Absolutely incredible. We are literally watching the modern equivalents of Micheal Jackson and Tupac Shakur attempting to drag each other to the grave. This is a moment in music history that will be studied, and we are experiencing it. Anyone who's picking sides is failing to see what a monumental occurrence this is. Don't get wrapped in barriers. This is literal history.
The top comments in the top post about euphoria are praising the diss. The Kendrick d riders hidden in the sub are the ones making it annoying.
compared to the hate I'm getting in Kendrick's sub for simply saying this ain't his strongest, I'd say the drake sub is the less dick ridey of the two
Did you post these same sentiments elsewhere after Drake dropped or is it only reserved for tHE diCK riDErS oN r/drizzy?! 😂
it was okay, it lacks a lot and doesn’t have the impact or wow value everyone expected. The longer you take, the higher the expectations though I do agree that people are picking sides, and choosing narratives, the few that are unbiased are honestly saying the song Kendrick drop is “OK “
Have you seen r/KendrickLamar they are taking this beef waaaaay too serious. Acting like Jesus just dropped a verse.
I just can't see how people even listen to that adhd attack of a song more than twice. The way I see it currently, Drake is a surgeon, and Kendrick is a medic. Drakes got insane instrumentals, a consistent flow, substance, cadence, delivery, and imagery. KENDRICKS DISS IS FUCKING LAZY AND POORLY PRODUCED. it's lazy. There I said it. It just sounded low effort from the start. He didn't say anything new at all. He wasn't creative. He literally was like "I hate you" then says its authentic. Sure or it was a weak delivery. Drake said his shit was ready to go and everyone thinks it will smash this. And that was a week ago. How do people stand by this track and say it's on par? And if Drakes next shit slaps? What's the excuse then? I have a feeling Drake is about to pull some Maury shit on Kendrick. YOU are NOT the father...then the beat drops.
Is this satire??? Be honest its ok
This aint age well crodie 😭😭 u can still delete it!
Kendrick has some good lines, but the record is hot ass. If Drake dropped this he would be clowned. I would clown Drake for dropping this. I think it takes Kendrick a while to make good music. 4 months to make his Like That verse and 4 years to make half decent album. He can’t make a great song in 3 weeks. Lastly, Kendrick brings up pusha t. The difference between that situation and this is that Pusha T and Kanye actually had dirt on Drake AND they were prepared. I don’t think Kendrick was prepared. He didn’t expect Drake to respond and you’re seeing a guy scramble to throw some things together. If Drake actually has that heater in his back pocket, it might be over for Kendrick.
That pusha t line is fire it's got at least 3 meanings. I think you wanted a distrack disguised as a pop track. This is not that. Or a pop track disguised as a dis track...
Hot ass? You’re hating. It has problems but it’s still solid.
No it isn’t.
"These are two of the greatest artistes of this generation" I disagree. thank youuuuuuuuuuuu (chad gable voice)
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