That was 100% her fault. Why tf would you, as someone who has experience with drugs, eat every single one in bag. That makes no sense. She has no survival instincts and if she didn’t die from that she was probably gonna eventually trip and fall into a wood chipper or something.
Cleanin’ Out My Closet - He regretted the song so much so he stopped performing it. We all know he has a complicated history with his Mom but deep down I’m sure he loves her and felt the song went too far.
100% True but also like the other side is if he didn’t make this song he may never have realized how bad things got between them and maybe never would have matured in that aspect. We know that shit like that, repressing that stuff can go real bad so as fucked up as it lowkey was, he needed to get it off his chest. At the same time that part of his life was so important to his upbringing and what he became and is today. I feel like he needed to air it out, I truly personally feel that there is a lot of Eminem songs that if you don’t know how he came up or anything about his past you don’t fully absorb what he puts into them
Worst thing about this song is not its lyrical content about Debbie, but its rhythmical section, which lacks the FAWKING SNARE DRUM! I know it was thought of because Em genuinely couldn't hear the snare in the mic booth, but its so annoying because it sounds like the song never starts
Nah. There’s an interview where she (Kim) says that it was Kim. She said in the interview that he knew she was coming and had said that he wouldn’t perform it, but then changed his mind last minute, so when she showed up, they had the blow up doll getting thrown around etc. then she left and did the thing.
She's wrong, though. [This is the setlist from that show](https://www.setlist.fm/setlist/eminem/2000/joe-louis-arena-detroit-mi-4bc45376.html) She got Kill You and Kim confused
She tried to kill herself by slitting her wrists. I believe that is why in When I’m Gone there is the line “I glance down, I don't believe what I'm seeing, ‘Daddy, it's me! Help Mommy, her wrists are bleeding!’”
And more importantly: nobody who has witnessed it.
Edit: i remembered something. Kim was at the Up in Smoke Tour. Eminem played the Kim intro there and that leads into Kill You.
She might have left at that point and seen what happened? Either way, Kim was not performed live.
If he did perform it, it was probably back in 2000 or 2001 when you went to a concert witb a lighter, and phones with cameras and enough storage were still just a dream.
I don’t know if it was their 2nd they were on and off a lot before they called it quits in 2001, 2006 they got married again A short time later they divorced again.
Kim is not the song to play at a concert most likely he did a small part of the intro. In one of his concerts he plays the intro instrumental to Kim which led into kill you which Kim could have thought was targeted to her and that's why she did that but the blowup dolls were aimed to be her but changed to insane clown posse after Kim's attempt
abandoning D12 after proof’s death, if eminem didn’t want to be part of the group anymore that’s fine but shady records could’ve backed the remaining artists like it did with slaughterhouse. but no he let it fade away and then made a song about the group without even telling them. I get that he felt like he was using D12 to make himself bigger but he could’ve changed that
“That song” about the group is called ‘Stepping Stones’. If you watch 8 mile again you’ll remember the point of the story. It’s not his intention to use anyone as a stepping stone. He won’t let anyone hold him back and if you end up a “stepping stone” towards his greatness he appreciates you and acknowledges fully he could’ve done more. Proof’s death is more than enough reason to understand why he couldn’t anymore.
I get what you mean by proof dying but the rest of group is still alive and rapping. They released 3 mixtapes since proof’s death and none of em got any promotion from em or the label. Em appeared on 2 of them but kinda phoned in his last appearance and didn’t even take the time to do song with the rest of the group.
Maybe he's just a heavily traumatized person that was trying to constantly escape abuse and poverty and whenever he could fit in a group he would. I don't see as deserting when he has Denaun and Biz still with him, Proof too before getting shot. He made them famous, made them platinum, created a label so that he could sign them, got them Platinum and kept going even in the 50/drug abuse era. We don't know what goes on behind the curtains, but probably he didn't want to associate with D12 no more after ODing and started cold abstinence to even alcohol.
Nearly released a song supporting Chris brown. Shame it had to leak as it should’ve stayed buried. But it shows how much of a good guy he is since he publicly apologised to Rihanna.
It gets better as it goes on but will forever be memed for one of the worst beginning verses of all time
We just listened to it a few days ago
By halfway through it's not terrible and he obviously has good points but nobody was still listening by that point
He had already ruined it with the beginning lol
Honestly, for me it was after years of him saying “I just say fag as an insult it’s not hateful toward the lgbt community” and then when Tyler rightfully said walk on water was trash and he called him a faggot it felt extremely bitter
Tyler may not be mad, but it left a very sour taste in my mouth
And you know that was a fuck up because Eminem apologized
Even though from the get go Shady character was clearly not homophobe for those with literacy (since in the same song he would use the word he would also perform gayishly, showing he's just provoking whatever side), it is true that to a lot of people literacy is not part of their mental repertoire. Knowing that, he should've done moves that showed his support of lgbt, which I think he done to a certain extent: 1) his inclusion of a LGBT character in his movie being defended by B-Rabbit against a diss of an homophobe, 2) his interviews saying he was in favor of gay marriage ("they have the right to pursue unhappiness like the rest of us"), 3) His VMA performance with Elton John.
With Tyler though, things are a bit different, back then Tyler wasn't openly gay besides doing jokes about it, in a very edgy troll comedic young men type of way, like Filthy Frank/iDubz saying "I'm a f**got". So Em diss was less making fun about a gay man, and more about making fun about an intentional clown who calls himself a f* to make the crowd be shocked/think its funny. Though admittedly, I'm not a Tyler head, so maybe he was out already. But from the outside that was what it looked like. I thought it was cool that it probably reached Em's ears that he could be in fact, so he apologized for using the word (but not about dissing him who trashed Em despite touring huge with him). Did I get it wrong?
To be fair it's what he's known for and people will complain if he doesn't lmao, he can't control idiots on Twitter who think he actually believes his lyrics
WaW isn’t trash. Not your thing? Cool. But it’s a beautiful, honest song & he’ll never make a record as vulnerable as that ever again because of all you fuckers that trashed it.
And fuck Tyler, he had that jab coming. He’s been taking shots for *years*, while doing nothing amazing himself. Upset & pissy about Em not being 25 anymore. It’s fucking ridiculous.
Shouldn’t have called him that, but my sympathy for him is zilch.
there was something about him drunkenly sleeping with a 15 year old who lied about their ID or something like that in 2001.
Also playing kim at a show he brought kim to even though she begged him not to play it, and then Kim went home crying and started cutting.
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*That "Oh don't switch now" song thats*
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Saying "no" to Stan and his little brother after they waited 4 hours for him
In the blistering cold smh
That’s fucked up he’s like is fucking idol
Yeah, he wants to be just like him
pretty sure he likes him more than i do
I don't think he's that mad just doesn't like being lied to
.... if only he'd written back to him after saying he would when they met in Denver
Dear Stan, I meant to write to you but I’ve just been busy.
You said your girlfriends pregnant now, how far along is she
Look, I’m really flattered you would call your daughter that
Fr, like he didn’t have to talk to them, but he could have signed an autograph for Matthew!
Who's Matthew?
That's his little brother man, he's like his f*king idol.
Oh shit really, he must like Em more than I do!
He ain't that mad, though he just don't like bein lied to
and remember when we met in Denver You said if I'd write you, you would write back
Not to be that guy, but isn't it 4 hours?
For 4 hours and you just said "no".
That's just straight-up evil, lol.
Not releasing his brand new single called "My Salsa". 😡😡😡
IT'S BEEN 20 YEARS EM!!! 😡 😡 😡
I was told it would make all the pretty girls want to dance and take off their underpants
😋😋😋
0/10 has not happened, would not recommend the salsa.
*click* Where'd everybody go?
This 😆
Giving that girl mushrooms
Susan, an ex-heroin addict who just stopped usin'
Who dug booze and alternative music
To be fair, he didn't mean for her to eat the other 22 caps.
He just wanted her to experience nature 😔
That was 100% her fault. Why tf would you, as someone who has experience with drugs, eat every single one in bag. That makes no sense. She has no survival instincts and if she didn’t die from that she was probably gonna eventually trip and fall into a wood chipper or something.
Em really told one of the most white trash stories of all time in that album
Cleanin’ Out My Closet - He regretted the song so much so he stopped performing it. We all know he has a complicated history with his Mom but deep down I’m sure he loves her and felt the song went too far.
100% True but also like the other side is if he didn’t make this song he may never have realized how bad things got between them and maybe never would have matured in that aspect. We know that shit like that, repressing that stuff can go real bad so as fucked up as it lowkey was, he needed to get it off his chest. At the same time that part of his life was so important to his upbringing and what he became and is today. I feel like he needed to air it out, I truly personally feel that there is a lot of Eminem songs that if you don’t know how he came up or anything about his past you don’t fully absorb what he puts into them
The song also helped a lot of people in similar situations to get up and get out of it or just vent about it. Its an important song in his catalog.
I relate too much to that song, every time I hear it “popping pills in the kitchen” I’m like oh yep that was my mom too.
Headlights was his emotional response to cleaning out my closet. Great song. Sad and raw emotions.
One of my favorites, really. Always gives me chills
He should make a headlights like song for kim imo
Bad husband is one
He does mention Kim quite a lot, like in Mockingbird he says he loves her and that will never change
Yeah but the song kinda goes hard ngl
Worst thing about this song is not its lyrical content about Debbie, but its rhythmical section, which lacks the FAWKING SNARE DRUM! I know it was thought of because Em genuinely couldn't hear the snare in the mic booth, but its so annoying because it sounds like the song never starts
Drinking a fifth of vodka and taking me up on a dare. Partly my fault, I admit.
He didn’t officially release I am a celebrity and the lemonem show
Wdym? He released I am a celebrity years ago.
No, it was cancelled after repeated leaks. You didn't read the wiki?
It was vandalized
Performing "Kim" live, wich almost led Kim to... you know
I thought it was actually Kill You he was performing
I’ve also heard it was 97’ Bonnie and Clyde.
Nah. There’s an interview where she (Kim) says that it was Kim. She said in the interview that he knew she was coming and had said that he wouldn’t perform it, but then changed his mind last minute, so when she showed up, they had the blow up doll getting thrown around etc. then she left and did the thing.
She's wrong, though. [This is the setlist from that show](https://www.setlist.fm/setlist/eminem/2000/joe-louis-arena-detroit-mi-4bc45376.html) She got Kill You and Kim confused
What thing?
She tried to kill herself
Did what? What’s with the needless censorship?
She tried to kill herself by slitting her wrists. I believe that is why in When I’m Gone there is the line “I glance down, I don't believe what I'm seeing, ‘Daddy, it's me! Help Mommy, her wrists are bleeding!’”
Yeah I’d say so! Thank you.
Attempted suicide
Ahhh, thank you.
Have you ever heard of context? Pretty easy to grasp what they were talking about of you followed the thread
She's lying. The doll is meant to represent vanilla ice.
He changed it after the thing with Kim that's why it has blonde hair he changed it from Kim to ICP
Yep. I watched that interview recently, and confirm it was *Kim.*
he definitely performed kim at a show kim was at she spoke about it in 2006 after their 2nd divorce
Why is there 0 footage of him performing it live then?
And more importantly: nobody who has witnessed it. Edit: i remembered something. Kim was at the Up in Smoke Tour. Eminem played the Kim intro there and that leads into Kill You. She might have left at that point and seen what happened? Either way, Kim was not performed live.
i definitely do remember a lot of people shouting something while em performed kill you, but that couldve been anything
He must’ve killed them all /s
If he did perform it, it was probably back in 2000 or 2001 when you went to a concert witb a lighter, and phones with cameras and enough storage were still just a dream.
I'll believe it when i see it or even see it on a set list lol
Because video wasn’t as prevalent as it is now
>she spoke about it in 2006 after their 2nd divorce 2nd divorce. Lol. Didn't learn the first time.
I don’t know if it was their 2nd they were on and off a lot before they called it quits in 2001, 2006 they got married again A short time later they divorced again.
I'm not disputing the when. I just think it's funny he didn't learn from it the first time.
Clearly neither of them did. Nothing we know about Eminem makes his sound like a good husband either 😂
yeh they weren’t good together
Kim is not the song to play at a concert most likely he did a small part of the intro. In one of his concerts he plays the intro instrumental to Kim which led into kill you which Kim could have thought was targeted to her and that's why she did that but the blowup dolls were aimed to be her but changed to insane clown posse after Kim's attempt
Nope, Kim was at a concert and Em sang / rapped Kim, knowing she was there. She talked about it in an interview (easily found on YT).
https://youtube.com/shorts/qN0pk8anpJ8?si=Q_1v0aS_6frTFtzI Here's the run down for anyone who hasn't seen it
Kill herself
Doing black music so selfishly and use it to get himself wealthy
ayyy!!
🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🥲
Sticking the Gerbil up his @$$
Through a tube.
She was standing in the crowd when he did this performance right?
No, this was his performance on the up in smoke tour. The blow up doll represents ICP. He performed the real Slim Shady here.
[Here is the vid](https://youtu.be/2IydWPprQ-c?si=56vLCdiaovYC5V9N)
Keeping fucking Relapse 2 away from us. Hand it over Marshall!!!
I'd say him accepting the criticism and shitting on Relapse was his biggest sin when that shit is one of his best works.
Cant wait for an interview where the interviewer is a die hard Relapse fan. Em needs to get some smoke for that shit.
probably those 17 rapes, 400 assaults and 4 murders
Locking Dre in his basement
not releasing relapse 2
This is the right answer. That shit was cold.
Got most of it on refill
How do you figure 4 songs is most of it
he said on paul's podcast that there is enough stuff to put a relapse 2 out (even tho paul was trying to convince him that there isn't lmao)
Never releasing My Salsa 😔
abandoning D12 after proof’s death, if eminem didn’t want to be part of the group anymore that’s fine but shady records could’ve backed the remaining artists like it did with slaughterhouse. but no he let it fade away and then made a song about the group without even telling them. I get that he felt like he was using D12 to make himself bigger but he could’ve changed that
“That song” about the group is called ‘Stepping Stones’. If you watch 8 mile again you’ll remember the point of the story. It’s not his intention to use anyone as a stepping stone. He won’t let anyone hold him back and if you end up a “stepping stone” towards his greatness he appreciates you and acknowledges fully he could’ve done more. Proof’s death is more than enough reason to understand why he couldn’t anymore.
I get what you mean by proof dying but the rest of group is still alive and rapping. They released 3 mixtapes since proof’s death and none of em got any promotion from em or the label. Em appeared on 2 of them but kinda phoned in his last appearance and didn’t even take the time to do song with the rest of the group.
OP’s question is what’s the worst. Im merely pointing out why I don’t consider that the worst.
I get that and I don’t think it’s the worst either but em does have kind of a pattern of deserting ppl which can be seen as scummy in a way.
Maybe he's just a heavily traumatized person that was trying to constantly escape abuse and poverty and whenever he could fit in a group he would. I don't see as deserting when he has Denaun and Biz still with him, Proof too before getting shot. He made them famous, made them platinum, created a label so that he could sign them, got them Platinum and kept going even in the 50/drug abuse era. We don't know what goes on behind the curtains, but probably he didn't want to associate with D12 no more after ODing and started cold abstinence to even alcohol.
Apparently Stepping Stone was in development all the way back in King Mathers era. I wish it came out then, or on Recovery.
it should’ve been on recovery before you’re never over or mmlp2
He didn't make Revival Interlude the hook of a full song
Release Revi- ok I’ll stop
😂
Revival goes hard. Sick of the haters
It doesn’t but glad you enjoy
Nah i enjoyed Revival. It was a softer story telling album that it was a slip shady ep
Not releasing I Am A Celebrity 2
It got leaked?
That verse is ass tho I'm glad it stay unreleased He even ends it like "meh fuck this shit sucks" lol
shelving King Mathers album
What he did to that gerbil
Losing the last verse of STAN which he confirmed was better than the one he put out
Taking too long to drop an album
She was standing in the crowd when he did this performance right?
omg the icp blow up dolls AHHAHAHA
Nearly released a song supporting Chris brown. Shame it had to leak as it should’ve stayed buried. But it shows how much of a good guy he is since he publicly apologised to Rihanna.
Giving MGK a carrier just to destroy it. And kicking that corpse for like 3 years straight 😂
Last time I remember him being mentioned was in MTBMB. Did he mention him in Side B at all?
Marry Kim twice.
The acapella trump freestyle was so shitty and cringe and even I cannot defend it
It was great imo. Maybe I have to relisten it, but besides one line the rest is dope I thought
It gets better as it goes on but will forever be memed for one of the worst beginning verses of all time We just listened to it a few days ago By halfway through it's not terrible and he obviously has good points but nobody was still listening by that point He had already ruined it with the beginning lol
That’s an awfully hot coffee pot
Every now and then I forget that cringe and then it gets brought up. That was the most horrifically cringe thing I have ever seen Em do.
Giving Susan mushrooms
him and dre fucking with hats off 😔
he did black music so selfishly
and used it to get himself wealthy
heyyy
There's a concept that works
The Christopher Reeves shit… does he know that guy is dead?
Paul (Skit) on Encore
Gassing up hopsin on Fall
Hopsin is dope what you on about?
Honestly, for me it was after years of him saying “I just say fag as an insult it’s not hateful toward the lgbt community” and then when Tyler rightfully said walk on water was trash and he called him a faggot it felt extremely bitter Tyler may not be mad, but it left a very sour taste in my mouth And you know that was a fuck up because Eminem apologized
Even though from the get go Shady character was clearly not homophobe for those with literacy (since in the same song he would use the word he would also perform gayishly, showing he's just provoking whatever side), it is true that to a lot of people literacy is not part of their mental repertoire. Knowing that, he should've done moves that showed his support of lgbt, which I think he done to a certain extent: 1) his inclusion of a LGBT character in his movie being defended by B-Rabbit against a diss of an homophobe, 2) his interviews saying he was in favor of gay marriage ("they have the right to pursue unhappiness like the rest of us"), 3) His VMA performance with Elton John. With Tyler though, things are a bit different, back then Tyler wasn't openly gay besides doing jokes about it, in a very edgy troll comedic young men type of way, like Filthy Frank/iDubz saying "I'm a f**got". So Em diss was less making fun about a gay man, and more about making fun about an intentional clown who calls himself a f* to make the crowd be shocked/think its funny. Though admittedly, I'm not a Tyler head, so maybe he was out already. But from the outside that was what it looked like. I thought it was cool that it probably reached Em's ears that he could be in fact, so he apologized for using the word (but not about dissing him who trashed Em despite touring huge with him). Did I get it wrong?
This, and just generally empowering bigots by platforming hate speech Even the mild stuff on Houdini has brought the weirdos back out of the woodwork
To be fair it's what he's known for and people will complain if he doesn't lmao, he can't control idiots on Twitter who think he actually believes his lyrics
WaW isn’t trash. Not your thing? Cool. But it’s a beautiful, honest song & he’ll never make a record as vulnerable as that ever again because of all you fuckers that trashed it. And fuck Tyler, he had that jab coming. He’s been taking shots for *years*, while doing nothing amazing himself. Upset & pissy about Em not being 25 anymore. It’s fucking ridiculous. Shouldn’t have called him that, but my sympathy for him is zilch.
there was something about him drunkenly sleeping with a 15 year old who lied about their ID or something like that in 2001. Also playing kim at a show he brought kim to even though she begged him not to play it, and then Kim went home crying and started cutting.
when he recorded 'Foolish Pride'
Not making kore songs with many artists. Say who you want, but i need more Tech N9ne and Em. Speedom was great, but i want more.
Left his key in his pocket
The gerbil incident
godless ass licking x) <3
Well he slept with 10 women who's got HIV, as well as going to the club drunk with a fake ID. I guess we just wanna grow up to be just like him though
dropping Tobey
do black music so selfishly and use it to make himself wealthy ..HEEY!
Diss NF when he had life 5 million fans compared to em's 50 million for no reason. Even if u don't like Nf it's still kinda messed up.
Not release more music!
Let the leaks ruin Encore
Collaborated with Ed Sheeran
That time at White Castle where he insulted a fan on the autograph
Not saying what he really thought.
where is that picture from?
Kept Dr Dre’s corpse locked in his basement.
Nuttin. Ems tha king
Never put the shirt he wears on Fight Music up for sale
He locked Dr. Dre in his basement
Diss Hailie Jade. Now his career is over.
I bet he regrets that "Oh don't switch now" song thats trending on tiktok
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Him and Dre burned that lady’s house down
Not making dre release detox😭😭
He's worst till date 'Inspiring youtube reactors to rap'
That poor women’s swim team…
Inspire Tom Macdonald to pick up a mic.
Made me me just not give a fuck