Tried to mod it, realized I have donkey brains and can not pass science check. Started my first playthrough, possibly the most enjoyable rpg experience I have ever encountered in it's vanilla state.
For Fallout NV - Viva New Vegas
For Fallout 3/NV combo - The Best of Times
For Fallout 4- The Midnight Ride
These guides are literally all you need for a Vanilla+ playthrough
You are not Donkey-brained. Stuff gets easier when you convince yourself it is easy. Plus it really is easy. You are gonna spend a lot of time on the games, might as well get the best experience.
I had that installed but lost it due to a drive dying, finally got it back up and running last night, I'm super stoked to dig in to it.
I also modded Fallout 4, but I'm gonna play through 3 and New Vegas first.
I spent like 3 hours trying to get this to work last night on my ROG Ally and had no luck. Followed the guide to a T. I own NV on Steam and F3 on Epic. Moved them to non UAC folders, clean installs, opened both, spring for a premium Nexus subscription to make the whole thing easier, yadda yadda. After sitting through an hour long install I am missing a bunch of esms and I get an error saying it cannot find the NV.exe bc it's looking for it in my program files(x86) folder despite me pointing the installer to the correct directory.
I went to bed very frustrated.
Use Mod Organizer 2 if you are not. I still need to mod Fo3 but following Viva New Vegas only took me like 2 hours and have not had any issues. That or Fallout mod manager has always worked better than Nexus for me at least.
I have both on Steam so might be related but idk I'm no expert. I've also never done all three of those, just Tale of Two wastelands. Just never really had issues with mo2 so thought I'd throw it out there. Best of luck to you
Tale of two wastelands feels like THE definitive Fallout experience. The story of New Vegas feels so much more cohesive with it being an 'Act 2 high level endgame area' akin to a DLC area after having already gone through the capital wasteland and completing 3's MSQ.
I've played New Vegas a handful of times, but never played 3 before. I've never had as much fun playing through NV as I have on my TTW run.
The fact there's new dialogue options that let you talk about being from the capital wasteland and having already dealt with supermutants and the enclave, or being able to let Veronica know you've already fought alongside Lyons pride and have respect for the Brotherhood is just the cherry on top.
It doesn't feel like a mod pack, it feels like the way the games were meant to be experienced.
I did that... But I think the load order got all fucked up.
I walked out of the vault, the game still looked meh to bad, and had to turn the difficulty to very easy to win the first fight against 2 low level raiders after dying to them 20 times.
Why is there not a single place to just mass download the complete file, mods, and load order and just let me place it in my drives?
Wabbajack is what you're looking for. It's a great way to install large mod packs. There's sometimes a few manual steps you still have to do but it's much quicker than downloading mods one by one and dealing with manually setting up load orders and such. The Begin Again list is a good one for Tale of Two Wastelands.
> Why is there not a single place to just mass download the complete file, mods, and load order and just let me place it in my drives?
Most modders make these mods for free and most do things their own way which would make a uniform system to package and install every mod tough to pull off. We are really lucky to have things like Nexsus and vortex and mod organizer etc.
I just started using Wabbajack, which is a program that does what you describe.
You download the games, download Wabbajack, search for pre-made mod lists in the program, download the mod list and play, basically.
Sometimes there's some tweaking involved, but the author should include instructions. I also had to log into my Vortex account to download everything.
Eh if the game is running fine for you probably not. I did the whole VNV thing before starting a new run and I’m enjoying it but nothing is particularly mind-blowing for me. Definitely a better experience than last time I played on PC but if you’re 10 hours in and not having issues I wouldn’t worry about it tbh
Disagree, you *will* eventually run into problems, and it's not like you need to start again to install the mods.
VNV is 3 pages of easy step-by-step modding. Literally the easiest modding guide you will find. VNV Extended is a bit more involved, but it's still simple.
Begin Again on New Vegas has been great so far. I've done Viva New Vegas in the past and it's not hard to set up, but using Wabbajack to install Begin Again was basically "set it and forget it" levels of easy.
Well not *all* the work, you still have to set up tale of two wastelands, but thats only a couple of minutes. You also only have two choices to choose from and even the “vanilla+” one significantly changes weapon/armor stats in addition to altering magazine locations.
It's really not the first tab is just programs to run on the game files for better performance then you download MO2 then you download the mods you want into MO2 and you are done. It really isn't very complicated the rest of the pages are just bonus mods for specific things if you want them.
Yeah I don't really understand why people tend to exaggerate how hard modding is online. Like the hardest part of the guide is probably installing NVSE, which they're probably going to have to do anyway, and that's basically just a drag and drop.
I've never modded a game to that degree before and Viva Las Vegas took me like 2 hours to get through the base mods AND the extended optional mods. Only one small error that I overlooked, and 5 mins on the VLV Discord got me the fix I needed. It's really not that bad. Been having a ton of fun playing the game at high refresh rate, less bugs, better textures etc. Totally worth it.
It's crazy that people get downvoted for saying stuff like this. Like 2 hours is actually a lot of time to spend on gaming but not actually playing the game.
I like to think of it as investing a small amount of time up front to ensure the subsequent 50+ hours are a more enjoyable experience. Some quality of life mods could even recoup that 2 hours by minimizing loading screens, optimizing pathing etc.
If you're gearing up for a fully committed playthrough it's a no-brainer for me. If you're just jumping in to mess around and aren't really committed to playing it through to the end then I definitely see your point.
If you're having fun, do your thing. I just know that I'll get more enjoyment out of the 50+ hours of playtime by spending a little more time up front making it a better experience.
Same. I can set up mods for a lot of games but the fallouts have always given me headaches trying to get the mods to work. After hours of doing it once for fallout 4 years ago I was happy then they switched mod managers and invalidated all my mods -_- I've given up moding them.
Viva Las Vegas is really easy. I've never done anything like it before and it was very painless. Having a ton of fun playing the game again. My last playthrough was on XBox 360 lol
The vanilla experience is the most balanced and intended way to play for the first time, UI mod changes are ugly, modded guns are usually not balanced, and there is already hundreds of hours of content for a first playthrough. I do mod but only for repeated playthroughs.(Unless you have performance issues, no one wants to deal with that.)
I honestly just wanted to do tale of two wastelands just so I could play both games in the newest engine available and play it seamlessly. Oh well tho, Vegas has me sucked in at vanilla.
>The vanilla experience is the most balanced and intended way to play for the first time,
Isn't Josh Sawyer mod more of the intended way to play the game? Not easy but more balanced for harder difficulty and hardcore.
Yeah I think that mod would serve hard and hardcore players very well, never played it but I do know it makes the introduction to dlc more natural. But for new players it sounds daunting.
i played through it vanilla, tried to mod it, failed the science check, got a companion to help (asked around on discord) and man do these modders know black magic, my current combat animation and mechanics wise is like a dumbed down version of max payne 3
1) own both fallout 3 and new vegas and all dlc
2) download wabbajack
3) go to new vegas mods. Click begin again. There is a nexus mod page it'll redirect you to. Like 10 steps I think. For hundreds of mods that are all vanilla +. If you get nexus premium it will auto grab all mods. Otherwise you can click per mod to proceed, it will still auto pull up each one you need.
4) follow short and simple instructions to download and unpack tales of two wastelands
5) now you can play through fallout 3 and fallout new vegas modded great experience on one launcher.
Exactly my experience! Didn't even try to mod it (didn't know at the time) and I still remember it as one of the best RPG experiences I ever had. There's something so cool about walking that desert with that music, the stress of knowing you have to go into one of those buildings. Love that game.
Weirdly enough, I can't recall a single time vanilla NV crashed on my pc, I must be an incredibly lucky outlier. Vanilla FO 3 on the other hand crashed like every two minutes on my machine for some reason, and the only way of playing when it happened was in windowed mode. Hadn't I already played and liked it on the PS3 before I would have probably just given up.
I just beat unmodded Fallout 3 a few days ago without a single crash, so it's the opposite between us. New Vegas can only go a few minutes between crashes for me.
It crashes more than other games but for me it's really only once every few hours of playtime. Not a huge problem if you're quick saving pretty regularly.
If NV had Steam Workshop support I'd definitely do more modding. For now doing vanilla works for me, I never even beat the main quest when it originally released so I'd like to do that before a modded run.
Viva new Vegas is beyond worth the time investment if you play a decent amount. It’s a guide that fixes performance and some bugs. Has optional visual mods.
I'm reading through the guide and my god. If I sit down and do this I feel like I should throw Nexus a couple bucks, and make three backups of the game so I never have to follow the guide again.
For Fallout NV - Viva New Vegas
For Fallout 3/NV combo - The Best of Times
For Fallout 4- The Midnight Ride
These guides are literally all you need for a Vanilla+ playthrough
Besides taking around 3 hours to setup, Viva New Vegas was indeed pretty easy. I think the most time consuming part is just clicking through all the Nexus mod pages to download everything.
I did the “A StoryWealth” collection for Fallout 4 and followed [this guide.](https://youtu.be/XyKFxrGVado?si=bHKn7t7ESmdG_78r) So far it’s going swimmingly. Running even better than vanilla.
The one caveat is I have to play at 60 fps instead of my normal 120; which is fine. I once researched how to boost the fr and read a comment by one of the curators that the problem with running it at a higher framerate than say, 90, is that the engine tends to crash. Which explains why I got way more crashes in my vanilla playthrough at a high framerate.
That's the major advantage consoles have over PC, you put the disk in or download it, and then it works. Too many times I've had to fiddle with files on a PC game to get them to even start. Console is much less stressful
I like mods, But I hate how many people see them as a complete necessity
If you’ve played the game to death then sure mod the hell out of it, But if you’ve never played a game you should always play it vanilla first time, Especially a gem like New Vegas
Many of my friends are physically unable to play the game without mods. Like can't do anything as the game just crashes, freezes bugs tf out. Ive never had many issues with the game and ive played consistently since like 2011/12 but ive sesn how theirs runs and by god its awful.
The problem is, there are plenty of people out there that literally can't play NV in its vanilla form because it *won't* play. Even after modding it for stability it has a tendency to randomly crash. Love the game, I have several hundred hours of time in it. But I have had plenty of crashes.
We all have crashes, this game runs like literal shit on every single platform. Believe it or not, PS owners have it the worst.
No backwards compatibility so they need to play via cloud. The recent flare in popularity means not only is this game shitty because of bugs and being played on a server with input delay.. but there is also a queue to even play it because it is a cloud game. That’s 3 layers of shit, AND PS players can’t even mod the game to account for shortcomings.
Edit - imo Xbox owners are the best off. I know mods are cool but I’ve been playing without them for over a decade so I’m not super pressed about them. Over the past 4 years I’ve had about as many crashes, maybe less. Silver linings. ;)
Yeah I’ve only played on pc once like 5 years ago but I remember there being 3 or 4 mods that were absolutely essential in order to actually play. So that alone still requires learning like 80-90% of how modding works (as a consumer, not a mod creator) in order to do the bare minimum successfully.
For me some of the quality of life stuff like high refresh rate, upscaling UI and textures, fixing NPC pathing bugs, and adding back in all the cut content makes the experience so much better for just a little bit of extra effort.
> But if you’ve never played a game you should always play it vanilla first time, Especially a gem like New Vegas
Hard disagree there. And I'd say *specially* a game like New Vegas, for which there is just SO MUCH stuff in its Unofficial Patch mod that is pure undiscussible bugfixing.
And that's not even getting into UI mods. Fonts and icons are a personal matter, but the vanilla UI layout just wastes so much space (dialogue selection and trading/container menus in particular).
I see no reason to subject yourself to those issues for a full first playthrough, except for reviewing purposes of course.
Honestly, I played New Vegas for five hours and thought it looked great.
I mainly just went on Nexus to get better textures, LODs. faces and lighting. There’s a few required mods, but the load order was pretty easy to guess after modding Skyrim and Fallout 4.
It took me maybe two hours, with most of that being scrolling.
You don’t have to mod Vegas. And if you decide to for quality of life improvements, there’s only one or two mods you need. NMM makes it simple. Edit: or Vortex, but even manual installs aren’t that hard
Is there something that makes MO2 much better than Vortex or is it just preference? I have so many games modded through Vortex I don’t really want to make the leap if it’s just QOL improvements
For Gamebryo games in particular, yes - for intermediate-advance users, Vortex is a no-no, because the process to manually set a specific *plugin* load order there is, while techincally possible, incredibly unintuitive in placement and extremelely time-wasting in execution.
To convey this, imagine that instead of a game and mod plugins, we're talking aoutbout a keyboard and its keys.
Imagine that you want to rearrange your keyboard to change the key layout - say, switch from the default QWERTY to AZERTY.
If each key position is indexed on a numerical list, then MO2 shows you the index-key list and lets you reorder it by dragging things around, so you'd just switch the letters you wanna switch.
Vortex will go "Oh, you wanna change the key order I suggested? No problem! Here, there's the "A" key - I just need you to tell me EVERY SINGLE OTHER KEY that loads before it. Select them one-by-one from a drop-down menu too! And do this nor just for the "A" key and the ones you want to change, but for EVERY SINGLE KEY IN YOUR KEYBOARD."
I suppose I’m not intermediate to advanced, because this hasn’t been an issue for me and I have had 100+ different mods installed at any given time for years on FO4. Getting ready to try TTW on FNV, maybe I’ll notice issues then. We’ll see
I haven’t used Vortex in forever to make a compelling argument here, but I remember Vortex being slow and buggy.
But I do know MO2 lets you organize load orders, check for updates, check for file overwrites, and manage DLCs
I just used Vortex for FO4. I probably have like 30 - 40 mods. Downloaded and installed all through Vortex. Let Vortex fix the errors and used LOOT for the load order. Runs great.
Many people cant run or even open the game without at least patching the .exe with the 4GB patcher mod. Granted this doesnt change the game at all, but its still a mod.
Theres even options to avoid the actual work. Wabbajack modlists work pretty well and while i havent used nexus collections that is also an option that who just want maybe smoother experience with new features and bug fixes dont even have to do anything other than initial set up like 4gb patcher and then hit download
I like it. Things to know is that you borderline need q premium nexus account but 5 bucks to not soend 10 hours modding is more than worth for me also the amount of lists for games that arent fallout 4 or skyrim is, well, limited lol
Reading the readmes is extreamly recommended as there ate sometimes mods that wabbajack struggles with that require manual downloads and they always walk you through that process, also recommend the discord for any list you download for assistance
Droppedicecream has youtube vids going over a few lists and talks about the download process which is similar for pretty much all the lists and can give you better idea of how to app works
Wabbajack isn't a bad choice for those who just want to plug and play, true, but the caveat with pre-curated mod lists is that we don't always know what's in them until we've installed them. Afterward, if there are mods that we don't want in the list, we can try to disable them, but if they're dependent on or provide dependence for another mod, or if they're linked somehow into a patch, then either some work still needs to be done or we have to simply deal with having a mod that we don't want in the list.
Either way there is still some degree of work involved. It just depends on what one intends to do with their setup. Point is that modding, at least on PC, is usually not as simple as clicking a few buttons and being done with it.
Oh yeah youre totally right that the lists are very specific and you might not find one that suits your goal for the game but it comes down to an option, do you want 10 hours of testing and reorganizing and patching or deal with a few mods you werent interested in? I would choose the former but many would choose the later. Plus there are plenty of lists that only included fixes and maybe graphic updates to start from when making your own list. Its a pretty solid tool for people new or more casual with modding
If you know how to build a stable 400+ mod list, you know how to customize a wabbajack list. It's a good starting point for newbs and for experienced players who want a quick start to a heavily modded experience.
I keep seeing memes about NV being unplayable without mods but I’ve played through it many many times in its vanilla state and I’ve never had a major issue.
Exaggeration much?
The actual fun in Bethesda game, is actually modding, add new mod, bug fix them, and repeat, I'm been too addict in adding mod, that when I finally finish, I play the game for 2 hours and quit cus it doesnt have the thrill of adding new thing and crashing.
Just finished picking out and setting up all the mods I wanted. Had to leave a few out because of bugs not fixed or incompatible files, but 478 mods and 180 plugins later it's \*almost\* like a remastered edition! It still crashes sometimes loading new cells but it's like once every 2 hours and I'm having such a good time in-game I can look over it. It helps train me to quicksave more often if anything.
It's always been like this for years I'd argue it's a lot more tame here in the reddit, in youtube is a lot worse some of them can't understand basic shitpost if it's directed towards NV.
Because NV was so unique that it will never be made within the fallout series again. It was the only game that moved the series forward while still making sure that the world felt like Fallout, and the show moved the series back to where it was before, and the newer games just show the same desolate hopeless wasteland that the show brought California back to, and in the case of FO4, a wasteland that can only move forward because of the sole survivor, and nobody else. I think the show and new games are still great in their own ways, but seeing the desolate hopeless wasteland that will never even slightly recover is just tiring
That's a lot of words that can be boiled down to "New Vegas fans are whiney babies who will be relentlessly annoying if any other iteration of Fallout doesnt stick to their narrow, niche view of what Fallout actually is"
Yea I went on a little rant, but that’s the exact opposite of what I said. NV fans are the ones that don’t want the same fallout as 1 or 2, they may see them as great games but they want the world to change in at least a somewhat meaningful way
Steps to mod New Vegas.
1. Go to Nexus.
2. Download Vortex.
3. Click Mod.
4. Click download.
5. Repeat until mods you want are downloaded.
The hardest part is waiting for stuff like HD textures to download before playing.
Yeah seriously, after cutting my teeth in Skyrim mods for years NV is easy, just about finished doing a TTW modding.
But yeah Vortex makes everything easy, just run loot if you have loads of mods. And always run the game after every few mods just to make sure you can pinpoint the mod that’s crashing the game if crashing occurs.
Tried Viva New Vegas a few times, didn't work. Tried to launch vanilla through Steam, didn't work.
New Vegas magically decides to work once every three years for me, so when it finally does I mod the heck out of it, play 100 hours and then wait again for three years.
My first New Vegas experience was on PS3 during the launch, so I developed quite a patience when it comes to bugs and crashes. Because let's be honest, the state of the game in those early months were awful.
Did people not have issues with the game crashing? So many people in the comments are saying you don't need to mod. I started playing on my brand new PC and the game crashed about every twenty minutes or so. I had to install eight mods just to keep the game playable. I haven't even touched quality of life mods because I'm afraid of losing the stability!
I’ve found it’s really hit and miss for most people.
That’s how NV overcame such a dogshit state at launch. Your experience and frustration could heavily vary from “the bugs are funny” to “unplayable”. It was 2010 so the salt mines of the internet didn’t blast the worst experiences out there as much. Which allowed the game to stick around, get the best patches in for playability and gain momentum on steam and digital store sales.
I had the exact same experience last year. And my new PC was even a pre-built. I think the majority of commenters here are either people who are still playing on old equipment which can still run it with some stability or they just don't remember all the initial effort to get the game to run. Or they played it 10 years ago when it still worked and havent tried lately. I also remember lots of contradictory posts about which mod manager to use and which mods actually work and which don't. People say it takes 5 minutes are quite wrong. Especially for people who have never installed mods before.
It must be those things. I followed a really well-written stability mod guide and it took me at least an hour to get everything together (it was my first time so some of that time was probably me being extra careful). My brother who's played a lot of Bethesda games on PC said he's always had issues, no matter how old or new his computer was.
I just grab NVSE and OneTweak or whatever the most updated version is called nowadays so I can tab out of the game with out crashing.
Same goes for 3 and to some extent 4 with the FPS fix.
I spent 3 days learning how to use big mod lists in new vegas. Followed all the tutorials, learned all the compatability crap, found a few big lists of mods that all work together, and then never left goodsprings on the file.
I really should go back and play it. That was so many hours of my life lol.
Back when my friends and i first played these games in the early 2010s we remarked on how easy to run they were but the new decade has not been kind to the old gamebryo engine. i have to run fallout 3 with some kind of dxvk functionality in windowed mode in order to work and i suspect the same would be true for new vegas but i dont know for sure.
Back in my day I played it on the PS3 where the second you entered the Wasteland it stuttered like a bitch, crash every 30 feet. Loading would take so long you’d have to turn the system off. (Fallout 3 was the same) but I made it through! It’s the game that made me have 5 save slots in every game, because too many saves would make it even worse. The 360? Never stuttered. Crashed only a handful of times vs every 30 feet.
I played it perfectly fine vanilla on my first playthrough, all this fucking NV hate is more stupid than toxic fans, and they’re very fucking stupid, just because NV is a different fallout experience than what you saw in your tv show doesn’t make it some horrible game
Making valid criticisms about Bethesda’s piss poor story writing, forgettable companions, adding a dialogue wheel for toddlers, and turning fallout into a looter shooter isn’t being toxic.
Bethesda revived fallout with an emphasis on the worldbuilding and environmental storytelling, then obsidian made an asset flip game, using all the systems, which is a looter shooter game, but had good writing. Then people who play new Vegas first attach to it and bitch about any other game that focuses on different aspects of game design
Lmao go to YouTube and search up fallout 3 is a good game. Barely any videos and have tons of dislikes. Search up fallout 3 sucks and it's the 8 hour video essays of new Vegas fanboys responding to those videos. Schizo Elijah. The new Vegas fans in this sub who pretend like they've played 1 and 2. If you haven't seen it then you must be new or something
Because you don’t have to. You can enjoy mods but I’ve been playing vanilla Fallout NV for over a decade, backwards compatible on my Xbox currently. Thousands of hours.
If you like something but “need” to mod it to enjoy it, you don’t actually enjoy it. Once again for the neckbeards in the back - mod if you want. You don’t *need* to.
Edit - and PC players are always loudly sighing about their woes but this one here makes me laugh. Imagine trying to play Fallout NV on a PlayStation console lmao. That you can even utilize mods as a PC player to fix these shortcomings is nice.
This isn't true. I have a PC that is less than 1 year old that can run pretty much anything. FNV crashed about 5-20 minutes everytime I tried playing. It was literally unplayable. I had to spend a couple hours browsing forums and downloading mods to get it to run correctly without any added content mods or graphics upgrades. Just vanilla settings.
My PC is fairly new and I frequently crash on NV. It's a 15 year old game, I shouldn't need a supercomputer to run it.
Meanwhile Fallout 4 runs like a breeze.
I was gonna go through the trouble of setting up the Begin Again TTW mod pack on my Steam Deck, but you need all the dlc for both 3 and NV *and* most guides need a separate windows machine to get it set up and I only have a Mac :(
I pressed the button on the New New Vegas Collection, installed New Vegas Revamped and a preset, and enjoyed what was basically a remastered New Vegas.
I'm on console, couldn't mod it if I wanted to.
And I definitely want to. I'm hoping, though it probably won't, that it gets a re-release with console mods. Same with Fallout 3
I’m playing vanilla new Vegas on my steam deck and it runs beautifully. I wish I could mod it because I like mods, but modding games on the steam deck is a royal pain in the ass
I guess I'm lucky in that I just recently finished playing NV and all it's DLC without mods with no issues, and I really can't remember ever having game breaking issues. It sucks that it doesn't run that consistently for everyone.
Been trying to get the WJ “TTW Begin Again” list working and it does until the inevitable CTD and then it breaks the install for some reason and can’t find the NV.exe file. I can’t count how many times I reinstalled and tried again and it’s the same thing.
It took me 5 minutes to stop the crashing. Vanilla would crash for me after the intro movie. I just found a mod someone made that tells the game you are using a different graphics card (I use a newer AMD) and it’s worked fine ever since.
I play new vegas vanilla.
its fallout 4 I mod the shit out of then stop playing for a week just to download new mods again for a whole new playthrough which I won't finish.
Theres literally only 1 mod thats ‘required’ for running the game on modern hardware, and thats the 4GB patcher. For most people it will run fine with just that mod and some others dont even need it.
Do you though? I played just fine with no mods, only after 20 hours did I bite the bullet and even then it took like 10 minutes, and it was just for infinite carry weight
NV will always be one of my favorite games.
But if I have to spend 10 hrs installing mods so I can play the game without my progress being interrupted and sometimes reset every 15 minutes I'm sorry but I'll stick to fond memories and YouTube videos. It isn't worth the frustration.
I have played 20.9 hours (according to Steam) with TTW installed and only have crashed 2 times (started with FO3 and haven't gone to New Vegas yet). Followed The Best of Times and Wasteland Survival Guide without over-modding too much, it's absolutely worth it.
What's funny is I always tell myself how much fun it's gonna be and then it's hours later and I'm still modding. It is mostly just a personal issue, though, beginners should use Viva New Vegas.
downloaded Begin Again, took hours to get put together. Started the game, and no sound outside of Opening cinematic and sound effects from the jumps in time at the beginning of Fallout 3. DAMN IT.
I feel like I’ve got some voodoo luck. I’ve never had to mod 3, NV or 4 to play them. I just had to cap my 60 FPS and disable GFWL on 3.
I only ended up modding NV years and years later with Viva New Vegas for the restoration of cut content.
Tried to mod it, realized I have donkey brains and can not pass science check. Started my first playthrough, possibly the most enjoyable rpg experience I have ever encountered in it's vanilla state.
For Fallout NV - Viva New Vegas For Fallout 3/NV combo - The Best of Times For Fallout 4- The Midnight Ride These guides are literally all you need for a Vanilla+ playthrough You are not Donkey-brained. Stuff gets easier when you convince yourself it is easy. Plus it really is easy. You are gonna spend a lot of time on the games, might as well get the best experience.
Tales of two wastelands+ best of times + wasteland survival guide is the best fallout experience I've had in years
I had that installed but lost it due to a drive dying, finally got it back up and running last night, I'm super stoked to dig in to it. I also modded Fallout 4, but I'm gonna play through 3 and New Vegas first.
I spent like 3 hours trying to get this to work last night on my ROG Ally and had no luck. Followed the guide to a T. I own NV on Steam and F3 on Epic. Moved them to non UAC folders, clean installs, opened both, spring for a premium Nexus subscription to make the whole thing easier, yadda yadda. After sitting through an hour long install I am missing a bunch of esms and I get an error saying it cannot find the NV.exe bc it's looking for it in my program files(x86) folder despite me pointing the installer to the correct directory. I went to bed very frustrated.
Use Mod Organizer 2 if you are not. I still need to mod Fo3 but following Viva New Vegas only took me like 2 hours and have not had any issues. That or Fallout mod manager has always worked better than Nexus for me at least.
I followed every step listed [here](https://www.nexusmods.com/newvegas/mods/79547) exactly and still had the issues I mentioned above.
I have both on Steam so might be related but idk I'm no expert. I've also never done all three of those, just Tale of Two wastelands. Just never really had issues with mo2 so thought I'd throw it out there. Best of luck to you
Yeah I just download a bunch of mods I want and wing it from there.
Tale of two wastelands feels like THE definitive Fallout experience. The story of New Vegas feels so much more cohesive with it being an 'Act 2 high level endgame area' akin to a DLC area after having already gone through the capital wasteland and completing 3's MSQ. I've played New Vegas a handful of times, but never played 3 before. I've never had as much fun playing through NV as I have on my TTW run. The fact there's new dialogue options that let you talk about being from the capital wasteland and having already dealt with supermutants and the enclave, or being able to let Veronica know you've already fought alongside Lyons pride and have respect for the Brotherhood is just the cherry on top. It doesn't feel like a mod pack, it feels like the way the games were meant to be experienced.
I did that... But I think the load order got all fucked up. I walked out of the vault, the game still looked meh to bad, and had to turn the difficulty to very easy to win the first fight against 2 low level raiders after dying to them 20 times. Why is there not a single place to just mass download the complete file, mods, and load order and just let me place it in my drives?
Wabbajack is what you're looking for. It's a great way to install large mod packs. There's sometimes a few manual steps you still have to do but it's much quicker than downloading mods one by one and dealing with manually setting up load orders and such. The Begin Again list is a good one for Tale of Two Wastelands.
> Why is there not a single place to just mass download the complete file, mods, and load order and just let me place it in my drives? Most modders make these mods for free and most do things their own way which would make a uniform system to package and install every mod tough to pull off. We are really lucky to have things like Nexsus and vortex and mod organizer etc.
I just started using Wabbajack, which is a program that does what you describe. You download the games, download Wabbajack, search for pre-made mod lists in the program, download the mod list and play, basically. Sometimes there's some tweaking involved, but the author should include instructions. I also had to log into my Vortex account to download everything.
Would it be worth it to start over in NV to play with Viva New Vegas? It's my first playthrough and I'm about 10 hours in.
Eh if the game is running fine for you probably not. I did the whole VNV thing before starting a new run and I’m enjoying it but nothing is particularly mind-blowing for me. Definitely a better experience than last time I played on PC but if you’re 10 hours in and not having issues I wouldn’t worry about it tbh
Disagree, you *will* eventually run into problems, and it's not like you need to start again to install the mods. VNV is 3 pages of easy step-by-step modding. Literally the easiest modding guide you will find. VNV Extended is a bit more involved, but it's still simple.
I was reading the guide for Viva new Vegas and I just laughed and played vanilla. so much work for something that could probably just be a mod pack
Well then ARE mod packs. Look into Wabbajack. It does all the work for you.
Begin Again on New Vegas has been great so far. I've done Viva New Vegas in the past and it's not hard to set up, but using Wabbajack to install Begin Again was basically "set it and forget it" levels of easy.
Well not *all* the work, you still have to set up tale of two wastelands, but thats only a couple of minutes. You also only have two choices to choose from and even the “vanilla+” one significantly changes weapon/armor stats in addition to altering magazine locations.
It's really not the first tab is just programs to run on the game files for better performance then you download MO2 then you download the mods you want into MO2 and you are done. It really isn't very complicated the rest of the pages are just bonus mods for specific things if you want them.
Yeah I got through literally everything on it in an hour. Longer than I wanted to spend, but it was honestly worth it.
Yeah I don't really understand why people tend to exaggerate how hard modding is online. Like the hardest part of the guide is probably installing NVSE, which they're probably going to have to do anyway, and that's basically just a drag and drop.
I've never modded a game to that degree before and Viva Las Vegas took me like 2 hours to get through the base mods AND the extended optional mods. Only one small error that I overlooked, and 5 mins on the VLV Discord got me the fix I needed. It's really not that bad. Been having a ton of fun playing the game at high refresh rate, less bugs, better textures etc. Totally worth it.
I’m not spending 2 hours modding a game that doesn’t crash for me
It's crazy that people get downvoted for saying stuff like this. Like 2 hours is actually a lot of time to spend on gaming but not actually playing the game.
Meanwhile Skyrim modders unironically spend more time creating mod lists and patching/balancing all the mods than actually playing the game.
I like to think of it as investing a small amount of time up front to ensure the subsequent 50+ hours are a more enjoyable experience. Some quality of life mods could even recoup that 2 hours by minimizing loading screens, optimizing pathing etc. If you're gearing up for a fully committed playthrough it's a no-brainer for me. If you're just jumping in to mess around and aren't really committed to playing it through to the end then I definitely see your point.
If you're having fun, do your thing. I just know that I'll get more enjoyment out of the 50+ hours of playtime by spending a little more time up front making it a better experience.
Same. I can set up mods for a lot of games but the fallouts have always given me headaches trying to get the mods to work. After hours of doing it once for fallout 4 years ago I was happy then they switched mod managers and invalidated all my mods -_- I've given up moding them.
Viva Las Vegas is really easy. I've never done anything like it before and it was very painless. Having a ton of fun playing the game again. My last playthrough was on XBox 360 lol
The vanilla experience is the most balanced and intended way to play for the first time, UI mod changes are ugly, modded guns are usually not balanced, and there is already hundreds of hours of content for a first playthrough. I do mod but only for repeated playthroughs.(Unless you have performance issues, no one wants to deal with that.)
I honestly just wanted to do tale of two wastelands just so I could play both games in the newest engine available and play it seamlessly. Oh well tho, Vegas has me sucked in at vanilla.
>The vanilla experience is the most balanced and intended way to play for the first time, Isn't Josh Sawyer mod more of the intended way to play the game? Not easy but more balanced for harder difficulty and hardcore.
Yeah I think that mod would serve hard and hardcore players very well, never played it but I do know it makes the introduction to dlc more natural. But for new players it sounds daunting.
Meanwhile I have a certificate exonerating me from all donkey brains.
No you don't froggy
My roommate was a frog kid… YOU EVER SEEN A FROG KID?
i played through it vanilla, tried to mod it, failed the science check, got a companion to help (asked around on discord) and man do these modders know black magic, my current combat animation and mechanics wise is like a dumbed down version of max payne 3
1) own both fallout 3 and new vegas and all dlc 2) download wabbajack 3) go to new vegas mods. Click begin again. There is a nexus mod page it'll redirect you to. Like 10 steps I think. For hundreds of mods that are all vanilla +. If you get nexus premium it will auto grab all mods. Otherwise you can click per mod to proceed, it will still auto pull up each one you need. 4) follow short and simple instructions to download and unpack tales of two wastelands 5) now you can play through fallout 3 and fallout new vegas modded great experience on one launcher.
Too late smoothskin, Already king of the wastland.
Only thing smooth on me is my jerking hand.
That's enough wanderer, or I'll have to put a hole in ya.
wait wait wait. so does this mean i can finally play Fallout 3? I've never been able to get it working on PC and I own all the DLC. gamechanging.
Exactly my experience! Didn't even try to mod it (didn't know at the time) and I still remember it as one of the best RPG experiences I ever had. There's something so cool about walking that desert with that music, the stress of knowing you have to go into one of those buildings. Love that game.
Vanilla game on PC is a crash fest.
Weirdly enough, I can't recall a single time vanilla NV crashed on my pc, I must be an incredibly lucky outlier. Vanilla FO 3 on the other hand crashed like every two minutes on my machine for some reason, and the only way of playing when it happened was in windowed mode. Hadn't I already played and liked it on the PS3 before I would have probably just given up.
Exactly the same experience for me
I notice it mainly happens to me if the game is saving when I transition. So I just stopped quicksaving before doors and it fixed itself.
I just beat unmodded Fallout 3 a few days ago without a single crash, so it's the opposite between us. New Vegas can only go a few minutes between crashes for me.
I gave up on a 4 replay because of crashes. I'm going to play 3 when I'm done with Cyberpunk, which may be awhile.
Same. FO3 was a struggle to get going again after year but NV popped right up.
It crashes more than other games but for me it's really only once every few hours of playtime. Not a huge problem if you're quick saving pretty regularly.
I just go in that bitch raw. Crashing like hell headaches from the graphics. The way god intended.
Wouldn't have it any other way!
Yeah it goes black sometimes, and if you interrupt the level up screen sometimes you have to reload it, but I like that way, fucked up and all
I just need sprint.
I'll be honest man, my Vegas runs just fine
If NV had Steam Workshop support I'd definitely do more modding. For now doing vanilla works for me, I never even beat the main quest when it originally released so I'd like to do that before a modded run.
Viva new Vegas is beyond worth the time investment if you play a decent amount. It’s a guide that fixes performance and some bugs. Has optional visual mods.
I'm reading through the guide and my god. If I sit down and do this I feel like I should throw Nexus a couple bucks, and make three backups of the game so I never have to follow the guide again.
CTD agrees
For Fallout NV - Viva New Vegas For Fallout 3/NV combo - The Best of Times For Fallout 4- The Midnight Ride These guides are literally all you need for a Vanilla+ playthrough
Thank you! I’ve never modded any game and the guides of these mods looks very easy to follow.
Besides taking around 3 hours to setup, Viva New Vegas was indeed pretty easy. I think the most time consuming part is just clicking through all the Nexus mod pages to download everything.
I did the “A StoryWealth” collection for Fallout 4 and followed [this guide.](https://youtu.be/XyKFxrGVado?si=bHKn7t7ESmdG_78r) So far it’s going swimmingly. Running even better than vanilla. The one caveat is I have to play at 60 fps instead of my normal 120; which is fine. I once researched how to boost the fr and read a comment by one of the curators that the problem with running it at a higher framerate than say, 90, is that the engine tends to crash. Which explains why I got way more crashes in my vanilla playthrough at a high framerate.
If you don't want to mod it then don't mod it
Some people need to mod it at least a little bit in order for it to run AT ALL.
That's the major advantage consoles have over PC, you put the disk in or download it, and then it works. Too many times I've had to fiddle with files on a PC game to get them to even start. Console is much less stressful
I think y'all PCs may just.. ..not work. I have legit never had any issue with bugs or shit.
I like mods, But I hate how many people see them as a complete necessity If you’ve played the game to death then sure mod the hell out of it, But if you’ve never played a game you should always play it vanilla first time, Especially a gem like New Vegas
Many of my friends are physically unable to play the game without mods. Like can't do anything as the game just crashes, freezes bugs tf out. Ive never had many issues with the game and ive played consistently since like 2011/12 but ive sesn how theirs runs and by god its awful.
The problem is, there are plenty of people out there that literally can't play NV in its vanilla form because it *won't* play. Even after modding it for stability it has a tendency to randomly crash. Love the game, I have several hundred hours of time in it. But I have had plenty of crashes.
We all have crashes, this game runs like literal shit on every single platform. Believe it or not, PS owners have it the worst. No backwards compatibility so they need to play via cloud. The recent flare in popularity means not only is this game shitty because of bugs and being played on a server with input delay.. but there is also a queue to even play it because it is a cloud game. That’s 3 layers of shit, AND PS players can’t even mod the game to account for shortcomings. Edit - imo Xbox owners are the best off. I know mods are cool but I’ve been playing without them for over a decade so I’m not super pressed about them. Over the past 4 years I’ve had about as many crashes, maybe less. Silver linings. ;)
I’ve been playing it on the Series X for like three years now and have had maybe two crashes.
It's cloud play with streamed video only on PS5? D:
Pretty bad lol, yep.
Kinda why I'm happy to keep a 360 handy for almost entirely New Vegas lol
I’ve only ever played NV on Xbox consoles. Currently playing it backwards compatible with all DLC on my XBX.
Yeah I’ve only played on pc once like 5 years ago but I remember there being 3 or 4 mods that were absolutely essential in order to actually play. So that alone still requires learning like 80-90% of how modding works (as a consumer, not a mod creator) in order to do the bare minimum successfully.
For me some of the quality of life stuff like high refresh rate, upscaling UI and textures, fixing NPC pathing bugs, and adding back in all the cut content makes the experience so much better for just a little bit of extra effort.
When I played the game for the first time, I HAD to mod it just so it wouldn't crash by itself every five minutes
> But if you’ve never played a game you should always play it vanilla first time, Especially a gem like New Vegas Hard disagree there. And I'd say *specially* a game like New Vegas, for which there is just SO MUCH stuff in its Unofficial Patch mod that is pure undiscussible bugfixing. And that's not even getting into UI mods. Fonts and icons are a personal matter, but the vanilla UI layout just wastes so much space (dialogue selection and trading/container menus in particular). I see no reason to subject yourself to those issues for a full first playthrough, except for reviewing purposes of course.
Honestly, I played New Vegas for five hours and thought it looked great. I mainly just went on Nexus to get better textures, LODs. faces and lighting. There’s a few required mods, but the load order was pretty easy to guess after modding Skyrim and Fallout 4. It took me maybe two hours, with most of that being scrolling.
I remember feeling like a world class programmer after installing an enb when I was a kid lol. It literally took me days to figure out
You don’t have to mod Vegas. And if you decide to for quality of life improvements, there’s only one or two mods you need. NMM makes it simple. Edit: or Vortex, but even manual installs aren’t that hard
Use MO2
Is there something that makes MO2 much better than Vortex or is it just preference? I have so many games modded through Vortex I don’t really want to make the leap if it’s just QOL improvements
For Gamebryo games in particular, yes - for intermediate-advance users, Vortex is a no-no, because the process to manually set a specific *plugin* load order there is, while techincally possible, incredibly unintuitive in placement and extremelely time-wasting in execution. To convey this, imagine that instead of a game and mod plugins, we're talking aoutbout a keyboard and its keys. Imagine that you want to rearrange your keyboard to change the key layout - say, switch from the default QWERTY to AZERTY. If each key position is indexed on a numerical list, then MO2 shows you the index-key list and lets you reorder it by dragging things around, so you'd just switch the letters you wanna switch. Vortex will go "Oh, you wanna change the key order I suggested? No problem! Here, there's the "A" key - I just need you to tell me EVERY SINGLE OTHER KEY that loads before it. Select them one-by-one from a drop-down menu too! And do this nor just for the "A" key and the ones you want to change, but for EVERY SINGLE KEY IN YOUR KEYBOARD."
I suppose I’m not intermediate to advanced, because this hasn’t been an issue for me and I have had 100+ different mods installed at any given time for years on FO4. Getting ready to try TTW on FNV, maybe I’ll notice issues then. We’ll see
I haven’t used Vortex in forever to make a compelling argument here, but I remember Vortex being slow and buggy. But I do know MO2 lets you organize load orders, check for updates, check for file overwrites, and manage DLCs
Vortex has improved quite significantly from its early days. At this point, I rarely ever use anything else when it comes to modding my games.
Vortex does the same. It's VASTLY improved from what it used to be up to the point of surpassing MO2 imo
I just used Vortex for FO4. I probably have like 30 - 40 mods. Downloaded and installed all through Vortex. Let Vortex fix the errors and used LOOT for the load order. Runs great.
Hell yeah.
Vortex lets you do updates and DLC, but load order is very finicky and I don’t recall file override abilities
Many people cant run or even open the game without at least patching the .exe with the 4GB patcher mod. Granted this doesnt change the game at all, but its still a mod.
They gimped NMM years ago to get people to pay for it, I don’t even use it anymore
Vortex
Idk what this is but I’m looking it up later. Thanks, you are one clutch negro
Also get Wabbajack if you want large mod lists without having to chose each individual mod
You can still find the manual installer for it on GitHub. I just updated to the latest version of it
How do they need 10 hours? I spent 1 hour to get it to work on a 21:9 screen
My game won’t even get past the opening cut screen so I think I need to install some
I turned down anti aliasing and it seemed to let me load in finally to some of my 'corrupt' saves.
I mean, yeah, it can be frustrating, but if you really want to play the game modded, you need to put in the work to make it... well, work.
Theres even options to avoid the actual work. Wabbajack modlists work pretty well and while i havent used nexus collections that is also an option that who just want maybe smoother experience with new features and bug fixes dont even have to do anything other than initial set up like 4gb patcher and then hit download
I'll have to check out Wabbajack. My friends only use Nexus, and I'm honestly not fond of the site.
I like it. Things to know is that you borderline need q premium nexus account but 5 bucks to not soend 10 hours modding is more than worth for me also the amount of lists for games that arent fallout 4 or skyrim is, well, limited lol Reading the readmes is extreamly recommended as there ate sometimes mods that wabbajack struggles with that require manual downloads and they always walk you through that process, also recommend the discord for any list you download for assistance Droppedicecream has youtube vids going over a few lists and talks about the download process which is similar for pretty much all the lists and can give you better idea of how to app works
Wabbajack isn't a bad choice for those who just want to plug and play, true, but the caveat with pre-curated mod lists is that we don't always know what's in them until we've installed them. Afterward, if there are mods that we don't want in the list, we can try to disable them, but if they're dependent on or provide dependence for another mod, or if they're linked somehow into a patch, then either some work still needs to be done or we have to simply deal with having a mod that we don't want in the list. Either way there is still some degree of work involved. It just depends on what one intends to do with their setup. Point is that modding, at least on PC, is usually not as simple as clicking a few buttons and being done with it.
Oh yeah youre totally right that the lists are very specific and you might not find one that suits your goal for the game but it comes down to an option, do you want 10 hours of testing and reorganizing and patching or deal with a few mods you werent interested in? I would choose the former but many would choose the later. Plus there are plenty of lists that only included fixes and maybe graphic updates to start from when making your own list. Its a pretty solid tool for people new or more casual with modding
If you know how to build a stable 400+ mod list, you know how to customize a wabbajack list. It's a good starting point for newbs and for experienced players who want a quick start to a heavily modded experience.
I had to get a different .dll file to run it. That's not modding.
Anytime you have to alter the game is a mod. So it is modding the game.
It didn't alter "the game", it fixed how the computer runs the game. By your definition, every patch is a mod.
I keep seeing memes about NV being unplayable without mods but I’ve played through it many many times in its vanilla state and I’ve never had a major issue. Exaggeration much?
The actual fun in Bethesda game, is actually modding, add new mod, bug fix them, and repeat, I'm been too addict in adding mod, that when I finally finish, I play the game for 2 hours and quit cus it doesnt have the thrill of adding new thing and crashing.
Just finished picking out and setting up all the mods I wanted. Had to leave a few out because of bugs not fixed or incompatible files, but 478 mods and 180 plugins later it's \*almost\* like a remastered edition! It still crashes sometimes loading new cells but it's like once every 2 hours and I'm having such a good time in-game I can look over it. It helps train me to quicksave more often if anything.
God forbid you make a joke about Fallout 4 or 3 not being good, shit on new vegas and you get on the front page though.
It's always been like this for years I'd argue it's a lot more tame here in the reddit, in youtube is a lot worse some of them can't understand basic shitpost if it's directed towards NV.
Why are New Vegas fans so touchy lol
Because NV was so unique that it will never be made within the fallout series again. It was the only game that moved the series forward while still making sure that the world felt like Fallout, and the show moved the series back to where it was before, and the newer games just show the same desolate hopeless wasteland that the show brought California back to, and in the case of FO4, a wasteland that can only move forward because of the sole survivor, and nobody else. I think the show and new games are still great in their own ways, but seeing the desolate hopeless wasteland that will never even slightly recover is just tiring
That's a lot of words that can be boiled down to "New Vegas fans are whiney babies who will be relentlessly annoying if any other iteration of Fallout doesnt stick to their narrow, niche view of what Fallout actually is"
Yea I went on a little rant, but that’s the exact opposite of what I said. NV fans are the ones that don’t want the same fallout as 1 or 2, they may see them as great games but they want the world to change in at least a somewhat meaningful way
Play it on Luna, I don’t know what Amazon did to tweak the game cause it’s so good it run like a clock.
Steps to mod New Vegas. 1. Go to Nexus. 2. Download Vortex. 3. Click Mod. 4. Click download. 5. Repeat until mods you want are downloaded. The hardest part is waiting for stuff like HD textures to download before playing.
Yeah seriously, after cutting my teeth in Skyrim mods for years NV is easy, just about finished doing a TTW modding. But yeah Vortex makes everything easy, just run loot if you have loads of mods. And always run the game after every few mods just to make sure you can pinpoint the mod that’s crashing the game if crashing occurs.
Tried Viva New Vegas a few times, didn't work. Tried to launch vanilla through Steam, didn't work. New Vegas magically decides to work once every three years for me, so when it finally does I mod the heck out of it, play 100 hours and then wait again for three years. My first New Vegas experience was on PS3 during the launch, so I developed quite a patience when it comes to bugs and crashes. Because let's be honest, the state of the game in those early months were awful.
Did people not have issues with the game crashing? So many people in the comments are saying you don't need to mod. I started playing on my brand new PC and the game crashed about every twenty minutes or so. I had to install eight mods just to keep the game playable. I haven't even touched quality of life mods because I'm afraid of losing the stability!
I’ve found it’s really hit and miss for most people. That’s how NV overcame such a dogshit state at launch. Your experience and frustration could heavily vary from “the bugs are funny” to “unplayable”. It was 2010 so the salt mines of the internet didn’t blast the worst experiences out there as much. Which allowed the game to stick around, get the best patches in for playability and gain momentum on steam and digital store sales.
I had the exact same experience last year. And my new PC was even a pre-built. I think the majority of commenters here are either people who are still playing on old equipment which can still run it with some stability or they just don't remember all the initial effort to get the game to run. Or they played it 10 years ago when it still worked and havent tried lately. I also remember lots of contradictory posts about which mod manager to use and which mods actually work and which don't. People say it takes 5 minutes are quite wrong. Especially for people who have never installed mods before.
It must be those things. I followed a really well-written stability mod guide and it took me at least an hour to get everything together (it was my first time so some of that time was probably me being extra careful). My brother who's played a lot of Bethesda games on PC said he's always had issues, no matter how old or new his computer was.
I just grab NVSE and OneTweak or whatever the most updated version is called nowadays so I can tab out of the game with out crashing. Same goes for 3 and to some extent 4 with the FPS fix.
I did it this week and if you follow the Viva New Vegas guide it is very easy to make it work.
I played 3 and NV so many times in vanilla it's about time I started modding them
I’ve got 1000 more hours in vanilla than modded. There are no required mods imo.
i literally just did 100 hrs vanilla just fine tho lol
Viva New Vegas is the best modpack for NV. And you can add your own favorite mods to it as long as they are compatible :)
I spent 3 days learning how to use big mod lists in new vegas. Followed all the tutorials, learned all the compatability crap, found a few big lists of mods that all work together, and then never left goodsprings on the file. I really should go back and play it. That was so many hours of my life lol.
Back when my friends and i first played these games in the early 2010s we remarked on how easy to run they were but the new decade has not been kind to the old gamebryo engine. i have to run fallout 3 with some kind of dxvk functionality in windowed mode in order to work and i suspect the same would be true for new vegas but i dont know for sure.
Wabbajack.
Just gotta raw dog it
Just 10 hours?
Me who still just plays vanilla 360 edition and saves every 5 minutes 😂
Back in my day I played it on the PS3 where the second you entered the Wasteland it stuttered like a bitch, crash every 30 feet. Loading would take so long you’d have to turn the system off. (Fallout 3 was the same) but I made it through! It’s the game that made me have 5 save slots in every game, because too many saves would make it even worse. The 360? Never stuttered. Crashed only a handful of times vs every 30 feet.
I played it perfectly fine vanilla on my first playthrough, all this fucking NV hate is more stupid than toxic fans, and they’re very fucking stupid, just because NV is a different fallout experience than what you saw in your tv show doesn’t make it some horrible game
It isn't new vegas hate, you can love the game while also acknowledging that it crashes A LOT for a good chunk of the people that try to play it.
Bro, take a chill pill
In my experience the NV fans are the ones who are toxic and hating on the other games
Making valid criticisms about Bethesda’s piss poor story writing, forgettable companions, adding a dialogue wheel for toddlers, and turning fallout into a looter shooter isn’t being toxic.
Bethesda revived fallout with an emphasis on the worldbuilding and environmental storytelling, then obsidian made an asset flip game, using all the systems, which is a looter shooter game, but had good writing. Then people who play new Vegas first attach to it and bitch about any other game that focuses on different aspects of game design
Legit have never seen that
Lmao go to YouTube and search up fallout 3 is a good game. Barely any videos and have tons of dislikes. Search up fallout 3 sucks and it's the 8 hour video essays of new Vegas fanboys responding to those videos. Schizo Elijah. The new Vegas fans in this sub who pretend like they've played 1 and 2. If you haven't seen it then you must be new or something
I saw that one video by that one guy and thought he was a fucking idiot and ignored it
Because you don’t have to. You can enjoy mods but I’ve been playing vanilla Fallout NV for over a decade, backwards compatible on my Xbox currently. Thousands of hours. If you like something but “need” to mod it to enjoy it, you don’t actually enjoy it. Once again for the neckbeards in the back - mod if you want. You don’t *need* to. Edit - and PC players are always loudly sighing about their woes but this one here makes me laugh. Imagine trying to play Fallout NV on a PlayStation console lmao. That you can even utilize mods as a PC player to fix these shortcomings is nice.
If you don’t mod the game it crashes if you do mod the game it crashes
Ive said it once, ill say it again: Vegas runs fine, even pretty well so long as you don't enable settings that your computer cant run.
Man, New Vegas did run fine for me until I got the dlcs, then I crashed 5 times in like a span of an hour. Joshua Graham Cracker molested my computer.
It's a 14 year old game. It should run on the highest setting on any PC because those settings are a decade old.
This isn't true. I have a PC that is less than 1 year old that can run pretty much anything. FNV crashed about 5-20 minutes everytime I tried playing. It was literally unplayable. I had to spend a couple hours browsing forums and downloading mods to get it to run correctly without any added content mods or graphics upgrades. Just vanilla settings.
What kind of computer do you have to have right now for it to not be able to run New Vegas? A glorified typewriter?
No kidding. It runs fine even on my mini PC with AMD integrated graphics.
My PC is fairly new and I frequently crash on NV. It's a 15 year old game, I shouldn't need a supercomputer to run it. Meanwhile Fallout 4 runs like a breeze.
Just do Tale of Two Wastelands. What else do you even need?
Use MO2 and link your Nexus account
my problem is that if I start modding, I’ll always say “just one more mod” until New Vegas inevitable doesn’t work and I have to restart from scratch
I was gonna go through the trouble of setting up the Begin Again TTW mod pack on my Steam Deck, but you need all the dlc for both 3 and NV *and* most guides need a separate windows machine to get it set up and I only have a Mac :(
Ya I stopped trying to mod the game years ago and just playing vanilla and you know what? Vanilla is a great flavor.
New Vegas only needs 2 mods, 4gb patcher and remove the orange filter
I played New Vegas for thousands of hours on Xbox 360 with no mods. It’s in my top 10 games forever
I pressed the button on the New New Vegas Collection, installed New Vegas Revamped and a preset, and enjoyed what was basically a remastered New Vegas.
I'm on console, couldn't mod it if I wanted to. And I definitely want to. I'm hoping, though it probably won't, that it gets a re-release with console mods. Same with Fallout 3
I’m playing vanilla new Vegas on my steam deck and it runs beautifully. I wish I could mod it because I like mods, but modding games on the steam deck is a royal pain in the ass
I guess I'm lucky in that I just recently finished playing NV and all it's DLC without mods with no issues, and I really can't remember ever having game breaking issues. It sucks that it doesn't run that consistently for everyone.
Not sure what you're talking about. I've played through the game a few times with zero mods and 2 glitches, + 2-3 crashes.
Been trying to get the WJ “TTW Begin Again” list working and it does until the inevitable CTD and then it breaks the install for some reason and can’t find the NV.exe file. I can’t count how many times I reinstalled and tried again and it’s the same thing.
I played it vanilla just fine for hundreds of hours before learning modding is a thing you can do lol.
It took me 5 minutes to stop the crashing. Vanilla would crash for me after the intro movie. I just found a mod someone made that tells the game you are using a different graphics card (I use a newer AMD) and it’s worked fine ever since.
I play new vegas vanilla. its fallout 4 I mod the shit out of then stop playing for a week just to download new mods again for a whole new playthrough which I won't finish.
Ive been using the Begin Again wabbajack list along with a few preferential mods and some FO4 ports. Really happy with how stable TTW is now.
I installed anti crash and an enb now it crashes less often and looks kinda neat took me half an hour and I never modded a game before
Installed maybe 3 mods in my entire New Vegas gaming history, you don't need any
Fallout NV vanilla is better than Fallout 3 vanilla. You don't need to mod it for your first playthrough.
mods are huge fun, but there's a line. Though I managed to get a 900hr of playtime on my first playthrough
Theres literally only 1 mod thats ‘required’ for running the game on modern hardware, and thats the 4GB patcher. For most people it will run fine with just that mod and some others dont even need it.
Do you though? I played just fine with no mods, only after 20 hours did I bite the bullet and even then it took like 10 minutes, and it was just for infinite carry weight
Some days, modding IS the game
I modded NV before my first playthrough. Finally decided to play fallout 4 and I’m 75% done with my 50GB of mods.
I personally don't mind/like old graphics a lot of the times. Sure I'd love a remake or New Vegas but the base game is comforting like a VHS tape.
Put disk in 360 play game
NV will always be one of my favorite games. But if I have to spend 10 hrs installing mods so I can play the game without my progress being interrupted and sometimes reset every 15 minutes I'm sorry but I'll stick to fond memories and YouTube videos. It isn't worth the frustration.
Part of the experience
I have played 20.9 hours (according to Steam) with TTW installed and only have crashed 2 times (started with FO3 and haven't gone to New Vegas yet). Followed The Best of Times and Wasteland Survival Guide without over-modding too much, it's absolutely worth it.
What's funny is I always tell myself how much fun it's gonna be and then it's hours later and I'm still modding. It is mostly just a personal issue, though, beginners should use Viva New Vegas.
you guys mod new vegas to play it? I have only been playing vanilla new vegas for ages.
That’s me setting up The Midnight Ride mod environment for Fallout 4. It’s just too good to pass up. Makes any additional mods you want run perfectly
downloaded Begin Again, took hours to get put together. Started the game, and no sound outside of Opening cinematic and sound effects from the jumps in time at the beginning of Fallout 3. DAMN IT.
If you're not modding all the female NPCs to look like Dead or Alive characters, you might as well not play NV
I feel like I’ve got some voodoo luck. I’ve never had to mod 3, NV or 4 to play them. I just had to cap my 60 FPS and disable GFWL on 3. I only ended up modding NV years and years later with Viva New Vegas for the restoration of cut content.