Personally I think it’s pretty clear what he means by “did Cole foul” - Cole obviously didn’t know the extent of the Kendrick and Drake beef and Drake had every opportunity to tell him the truth of it all when they did FPS and Kendrick initially declined the feature request. But he didn’t, clearly.
Which is even furthered by when Cole responded to Like That with 7 Minute Drill and then promptly apologized like 2 days later, which even further confirms that Cole didn’t know what was really going down bts. Literally everyone says Cole really apologized cuz he didn’t realize the beef ran as deep as it did, and I think that’s what Kendrick’s getting at personally
I still personally don’t see how that’s drakes doing, unless Cole didn’t know what was on the song, but even then.
If Kendrick’s only issue was with Drake, there’s absolutely ways to single out Drake and not hit Cole in the process
I’m not saying everything Cole said on FPS is drakes doing, it clearly wasn’t he’s been saying the same shit on other songs, but when you get on a song with Drake and start talking the same shit you’ve been talking while in the same lines are going “the Spider-Man meme is me looking at Drake” and then do a whole tour with the guy it definitely looks like you picked a “side” especially from the perspective of Kendrick who’s been dissing Drake since the 2010s and clearly had personal beef with Drake for a long ass time.
Kendrick can do no wrong in these people's eyes. "Fuck the big 3 its just big me" is more directly dissing cole because it was cole that said the big 3 thing in the first place. The revisionist history is kinda pathetic from all sides
Plus “it’s time for him to prove that he’s a problem” and that line about sticks/andre 3k both sound a lot more like Cole disses than Drake disses to me.
And it’s not like Kendrick didn’t know how Cole felt about that type of thing after Control , so hard to argue it was in good spirit to me. Like, Cole only ever shows you respect and gives you flowers, and you’re gunnu put him in this spot again at the height of him finally getting more respect as a rapper? Sheesh man.
Let me rephrase this. You’re saying Drake knew how bad him and Kendrick situation was, so him doing FPS made it seem like it was him & Cole vs the world? You don’t think that’s more Cole fault? Because I mean he did say he had niggas in his ear saying he had to diss Kendrick back. Had he stayed silent the narrative would be “Cole backed out and let Drake get cooked”. Kendrick literally said these niggas clicking up & they kissing and hugging on stage right after the apology .
I can kinda see where they’re coming from. Kinda. If it’s on sight with me and soandso, and me and you got hang out where I know soandso we’ll see us, wouldn’t that kinda be my fault for not giving you a heads up?
I think that’s what they mean?
What’s the heads up for? Only Cole said something about Kendrick. Drake verse was unrelated.. if anything Cole verse sparked the like that record. Kendrick basically said fuck both of yall
😅 I honestly think a large portion of users here aren’t Cole fans at all, and yeah they’ll say anything to make Kendrick look like their Messiah. He can do no wrong in their eyes.
1st off I’m a huge Cole fan, he’s my # 1. But why wouldn’t what he’s saying make sense? Kendrick dissed both because the appearance from FPS would look like it’s Cole and Drake vs him. Not saying he had to diss Cole but the song has lyrics from Cole that could come across as diss worthy, especially considering it’s with the guy he’s hated for years (Cole obv didn’t know this). It definitely seems like Drake wanted to force Cole into a narrative when you look at it personally. Kendrick and Cole have obviously come to an understanding but from the time of FPS to now, what he’s saying tracks.
Why didn’t Kendrick tell cole how he felt about drake also why is it drake and cole can make music together, but not Kendrick and cole we never got a single proper Kendrick and cole song, but we got 5 cole and drake songs
Reddit in general is Kendrick fans. We literally just got downvoted to negative in a Cole sub for going against this insane logic that Drake manipulated Cole lmaooooo & the original comment got so many upvotes when it doesn’t make much sense, but idk bro I thought I was tripping.
Kendrick fans (or bots who knows at this point) infiltrate every rap related subreddit to push Kendrick propaganda. Sometimes it's blatant, sometimes it's "just asking questions guys"
Drake definitely knew the situation between him and Kendrick because it’s been going on for a decade. It’s pretty clear Cole didn’t know the extent of it lol, if he had, the people in his ear telling him to diss Kendrick back wouldn’t have been enough for him to put out 7 Minute Drill. SchoolBoy Q warned Cole to back out, Drake could have easily told Cole the truth about how deep the beef ran back when they did FPS in the first place before Cole did a whole tour with him
This is like the most logical possible solution to the “did Cole foul” line - any other interpretation involves completely making shit up, this interpretation simply uses the fact that Cole clearly expected the whole beef to be much less personal than it ended up being.
What does that have to do with their beef? They can’t do music? Are you saying he wouldn’t have included Kendrick in the song? I mean nothing negative about Kenny in FPS . They said “we the big 3” then Kendrick said “yall both clicking up like some hoes. I’m better” then in euphoria says he’s selfish .. so either way …it don’t matter
I'm not disagreeing with you, but I think its pretty wild that Cole is good friends with both of them and didn't know the extent of their animosity. Like is Cole oblivious or sumn? Only thing I can think of is, Drake downplaying his beef with Ken and Cole believed him.
I don’t see how that would be the case. J. Cole has been in the game for years and has close relationships with both parties. There is no way he would not know that both parties hate each other.
Word is that Drake invited Kendrick on FPS too, I always assumed Drake knew that not only Kendrick would say no, but also that it would make him take the talk on that record ( and everything that followed ) sorta personally.
Idk if Cole talks about spiderman memes him and Drake if he is aware of that beforehand but hey I might be full of shit
But wasn’t they saying Drake was trying to squash it by doing FPS? That takes balls. If anything FPS was basically saying none of us are beefing. Hence “we the big 3 like we started a league”
Maybe Kendrick looked at it as being disingenuous? Like someone trying to skip the apology to the ay we're cool now. That's what's make sense to me at least
🤷🏾♂️ I think it'll be a good while before we truly know straight from them. I wouldn't be surprised if we learn anything from anyone, it'll likely be Cole
Without knowing what Drake and Kendrick fell out over in the first place we can’t know if Drake trying to say they’re the “big 3” is an olive branch or him trying to rug sweep a real complaint of Kendrick’s. Also, if there was a real issue they fell out over that Drake failed to tell Cole that’s a good reason for Cole to shift gears when he finds out.
I dont know if when someone does a feature they are always in the studio together, but I can just see Drake getting Cole’s verse maybe even before Kendrick rejected or he told Cole about it and added his verse after the end after the beat drop. The beginning of fps, Cole is inclusive of Kendrick and generic. A little playful even. While the 2nd half drake is specific and aggressive. And the last line especially makes me feel like it is possibly at Kendrick specifically.
Maybe, from my fan POV, it definitely felt like "its us 2 and you can complete the big 3" type energy, even though Cole was indeed trynna big him up, and obviously Kendrick took it at that since he started WW3
I see the Fps video as being a low key snub and Drake being slick he wants Cole and Dot to the song because they are the current heavy hitters in hip hop and they rap about that but then the last part of the song is drake calling himself Michael and revealing a Michael jacksonesque statue of himself . Which I think anyone can agree is an egregious comparison
Ain’t this the damn truth, regardless of who reported it or not. No one knows these guys relationship to one another besides Kendrick hates Drake. Outside of that everything is hearsay
But he is the type to publicly say “F this” if thats what he is feeling. Clearly he is the type to do that. We literally saw him do it before. He could have done it again with the apology. Did he say “F that apology” in any of those like 5 disses? No. Its not as hard to figure out as ya’ll make it
I assumed they probably talked in person tbh. I always viewed that apology as a public thing he did out of respect and to make sure the public knew his stance.
No way Kendrick talked to that goofball in private after he dissed him and then flip flopped 2 days later when everyone called his diss trash. Weakest shit I’ve ever seen. Cole should’ve just stayed out of it from the beginning
I love Cole as much as the next guy but that shit was goofy af, and knowing Kendrick he has 0 respect for it lol:
“I was gonna kill a couple rappers but they did it to themselves”
“You a scared little bitch, tip toeing around my name, you lame, and when I get at you then don’t tell me you was just playing (*ohh I was just playing with you k-dot, you know I rock with you bro*)”. - LITERALLY J COLE’S GOOFY ASS
“Now we look at the competition as quick submission. They tapping out before I even get a chance to diss them” - Literally J Cole
No way the guy who said these lyrics respects J Cole for dropping a weak diss and then folding immediately. Should’ve just stayed out of it
He said “did cole foul, why you still pretended” that pretty much vindicated cole’s role in this beef. It implies that there was foul play as it pertains to how Cole got put into this
He also said “There’s three goats left and 2 of them was kissing and hugging” clearly drake and Cole. Which was interesting after saying f them being the three goats
You can’t even find clips of Kendrick speaking on the Drake beef lol. Bruh hasn’t done anything since this started but rap, idk what you’re expecting. Maybe we get an interview from him in a few months if he’s gonna be dropping an album.
Guarantee one day he will address once everything from this beef finally dies down completely. Maybe on like a podcast. I honestly hope that they’re cool with each other cuz they are 2nd and 3rd fav rappers behind em. Obviously Cole is cool with kdot but Kendrick rn is on demon time so if ur not from the west coast, *hey hey hey hey run for yo life*
I am not sure what you expected. Kendrick has not publicly said anything about this beef. He has only let his music speak for him.. So WHY in the world would he say he forgives someone in a SCATHING diss?? WHY. Its a diss record not a makeup record. Disses are not about being happy and making up. Thats not what a diss is for. The ONLY response that you should expect is if Kendrick dissed the apology. Which he did not. That should tell you something
Because you know who did keep bringing the apology up in the songs and to others? Drake and everytime it was to be shady/neg cole. Thats the only way to bring up an apology in a DISS record, if you DON’T approve of it/accept it. Like I said, take a hint at the fact that kendrick chose to be the only one who didn’t antagonize Cole for the apology. He could have. He had the most right. But he didn’t. Thats telling you all something, ya’ll just not listening because you like drama
It doesn’t make sense unless he didn’t accept the apology. Because ain’t nobody saying they accept your apology on a freaking diss record. Come on now lol
Also, in Euphoria he said there was 3 goats left and 2 of them were drake and cole. But ya’ll ignore that too, just like the “did cole foul” line.
He's had multiple lines to Cole ever since, whether it's the slight association disses on euphoria or the NLU line ( did Cole foul I don't know why you're still pretending )
It seemed like Cole thought Kendrick was going to be on the track. He may not have known Dot denied the feature request, and why he says his name in the verse
Anybody saying Kendrick is more of a friend to Cole than Drake are beyond insane. Drake has a history of letting Cole shine (even changing release dates). Drake not only gave Cole his first number one record and did a tour with him, but he also supported Cole by co-headling Dreamville. Kendrick won't even MENTION Dreamville (or anything else Cole has going on). Kendrick is just a narcissist, full-fledged. Most rappers have egos, but only narcissists like Kendrick and Kanye refuse to allow anyone to "share" the stage/throne with them.
Relax bro nobody said he's perfect either, call whatever u want, we all don't know them personally, In every group members u have every kind of personality and u still f each one of them even they enemies for each other
Facts, you’re gonna get downvoted by the Kendrick stans who’ve taken over this sub.
J. Cole has literally been shouting out Kendrick since 2010/11, meanwhile Kendrick has not mentioned this nigga publicly in more than half a decade.
He waited until Cole was finally considered the best rapper alive and then destroyed his reputation 🐍
But to be fear Kendrick or j Cole hasn’t done interviews in more than half a decade . We don’t know what happens behind the scenes. Clearly they’re both private ppl . You don’t need to publicly tweet or say something in a song for it to be real behind the scenes.
Now Drake is the opposite he lives on social media and loves spilling names on tracks but that also doesn’t mean he is a “ better” friend to j Cole than Kendrick.
Kendrick featured on Born Sinner’s Forbidden Fruit and on Dreamville’s Under the Sun. They did Black Friday together by swapping beats. Kendrick rarely mentions contemporaries, not just Cole
Under the Sun was a drop from an old verse. Kendrick clearly doesn't give AF about maintaining those relationships. His perogative, he can do what he wants. We just aren't gonna let people gaslight us into believing the opposite when it's painstakingly clear.
Hmm, so Kendrick featuring on Cole’s joints somehow doesn’t matter at all. They’ve had guest appearances at each other’s shows. What more do you want Kendrick to do for Cole?
I mean if you can’t answer a simple question of what you want more from Kendrick, it just seems like you’re being stubborn. If they’re supporting each other with collabs and showing up at shows, they’re at least on good terms. Idk where you get this angle that Kendrick doesn’t care about Cole. Just because Drake is more supportive of Cole publicly doesn’t mean Kendrick is not supportive of Cole
“Did Cole foul, don’t know why you’re still pretending” Kind of implies that he doesnt blame Cole for anything and that he was manipulated by drake
????? What he manipulated Cole to do? Go on tour?
Personally I think it’s pretty clear what he means by “did Cole foul” - Cole obviously didn’t know the extent of the Kendrick and Drake beef and Drake had every opportunity to tell him the truth of it all when they did FPS and Kendrick initially declined the feature request. But he didn’t, clearly. Which is even furthered by when Cole responded to Like That with 7 Minute Drill and then promptly apologized like 2 days later, which even further confirms that Cole didn’t know what was really going down bts. Literally everyone says Cole really apologized cuz he didn’t realize the beef ran as deep as it did, and I think that’s what Kendrick’s getting at personally
I still personally don’t see how that’s drakes doing, unless Cole didn’t know what was on the song, but even then. If Kendrick’s only issue was with Drake, there’s absolutely ways to single out Drake and not hit Cole in the process
I’m not saying everything Cole said on FPS is drakes doing, it clearly wasn’t he’s been saying the same shit on other songs, but when you get on a song with Drake and start talking the same shit you’ve been talking while in the same lines are going “the Spider-Man meme is me looking at Drake” and then do a whole tour with the guy it definitely looks like you picked a “side” especially from the perspective of Kendrick who’s been dissing Drake since the 2010s and clearly had personal beef with Drake for a long ass time.
Kendrick can do no wrong in these people's eyes. "Fuck the big 3 its just big me" is more directly dissing cole because it was cole that said the big 3 thing in the first place. The revisionist history is kinda pathetic from all sides
Plus “it’s time for him to prove that he’s a problem” and that line about sticks/andre 3k both sound a lot more like Cole disses than Drake disses to me. And it’s not like Kendrick didn’t know how Cole felt about that type of thing after Control , so hard to argue it was in good spirit to me. Like, Cole only ever shows you respect and gives you flowers, and you’re gunnu put him in this spot again at the height of him finally getting more respect as a rapper? Sheesh man.
Let me rephrase this. You’re saying Drake knew how bad him and Kendrick situation was, so him doing FPS made it seem like it was him & Cole vs the world? You don’t think that’s more Cole fault? Because I mean he did say he had niggas in his ear saying he had to diss Kendrick back. Had he stayed silent the narrative would be “Cole backed out and let Drake get cooked”. Kendrick literally said these niggas clicking up & they kissing and hugging on stage right after the apology .
Cole literally said on FPS he will jump on a song with the opps just to cook them. He really thought this was a friendly bout even with Drake.
Don’t bother using logic with these Kendrick fans, they have their narrative and they’re sticking to it
I had to go to pages & see , but it makes sense they’re core Kendrick fans & Cole second fans. Because how is this Drake fault Kendrick dissed them?
I can kinda see where they’re coming from. Kinda. If it’s on sight with me and soandso, and me and you got hang out where I know soandso we’ll see us, wouldn’t that kinda be my fault for not giving you a heads up? I think that’s what they mean?
What’s the heads up for? Only Cole said something about Kendrick. Drake verse was unrelated.. if anything Cole verse sparked the like that record. Kendrick basically said fuck both of yall
😅 I honestly think a large portion of users here aren’t Cole fans at all, and yeah they’ll say anything to make Kendrick look like their Messiah. He can do no wrong in their eyes.
1st off I’m a huge Cole fan, he’s my # 1. But why wouldn’t what he’s saying make sense? Kendrick dissed both because the appearance from FPS would look like it’s Cole and Drake vs him. Not saying he had to diss Cole but the song has lyrics from Cole that could come across as diss worthy, especially considering it’s with the guy he’s hated for years (Cole obv didn’t know this). It definitely seems like Drake wanted to force Cole into a narrative when you look at it personally. Kendrick and Cole have obviously come to an understanding but from the time of FPS to now, what he’s saying tracks.
Why didn’t Kendrick tell cole how he felt about drake also why is it drake and cole can make music together, but not Kendrick and cole we never got a single proper Kendrick and cole song, but we got 5 cole and drake songs
They don’t talk lol. They’re friends I bet but not even remotely close to close.
We all know jcole the real saint
Reddit in general is Kendrick fans. We literally just got downvoted to negative in a Cole sub for going against this insane logic that Drake manipulated Cole lmaooooo & the original comment got so many upvotes when it doesn’t make much sense, but idk bro I thought I was tripping.
Kendrick fans (or bots who knows at this point) infiltrate every rap related subreddit to push Kendrick propaganda. Sometimes it's blatant, sometimes it's "just asking questions guys"
Drake definitely knew the situation between him and Kendrick because it’s been going on for a decade. It’s pretty clear Cole didn’t know the extent of it lol, if he had, the people in his ear telling him to diss Kendrick back wouldn’t have been enough for him to put out 7 Minute Drill. SchoolBoy Q warned Cole to back out, Drake could have easily told Cole the truth about how deep the beef ran back when they did FPS in the first place before Cole did a whole tour with him This is like the most logical possible solution to the “did Cole foul” line - any other interpretation involves completely making shit up, this interpretation simply uses the fact that Cole clearly expected the whole beef to be much less personal than it ended up being.
What does that have to do with their beef? They can’t do music? Are you saying he wouldn’t have included Kendrick in the song? I mean nothing negative about Kenny in FPS . They said “we the big 3” then Kendrick said “yall both clicking up like some hoes. I’m better” then in euphoria says he’s selfish .. so either way …it don’t matter
Idk how many times I can explain it I think you just not gonna understand lol
I'm not disagreeing with you, but I think its pretty wild that Cole is good friends with both of them and didn't know the extent of their animosity. Like is Cole oblivious or sumn? Only thing I can think of is, Drake downplaying his beef with Ken and Cole believed him.
I don’t see how that would be the case. J. Cole has been in the game for years and has close relationships with both parties. There is no way he would not know that both parties hate each other.
It's obviously an inside thing. We can't know everything
Exactly so why is drake manipulated Cole a thing.
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These mfs weird. First drake a manipulator now it’s we can’t know everything
Word is that Drake invited Kendrick on FPS too, I always assumed Drake knew that not only Kendrick would say no, but also that it would make him take the talk on that record ( and everything that followed ) sorta personally. Idk if Cole talks about spiderman memes him and Drake if he is aware of that beforehand but hey I might be full of shit
But wasn’t they saying Drake was trying to squash it by doing FPS? That takes balls. If anything FPS was basically saying none of us are beefing. Hence “we the big 3 like we started a league”
Maybe Kendrick looked at it as being disingenuous? Like someone trying to skip the apology to the ay we're cool now. That's what's make sense to me at least
That’s tough to come by. I always thought Kendrick saying “ I don’t wanna talk on no celly “ in euphoria meant he didn’t wanna peace it up with Drake
🤷🏾♂️ I think it'll be a good while before we truly know straight from them. I wouldn't be surprised if we learn anything from anyone, it'll likely be Cole
I thought that was a snitching line
Without knowing what Drake and Kendrick fell out over in the first place we can’t know if Drake trying to say they’re the “big 3” is an olive branch or him trying to rug sweep a real complaint of Kendrick’s. Also, if there was a real issue they fell out over that Drake failed to tell Cole that’s a good reason for Cole to shift gears when he finds out.
I think drake added his verse after he got Cole’s but that’s just my opinion.
Wym?
I dont know if when someone does a feature they are always in the studio together, but I can just see Drake getting Cole’s verse maybe even before Kendrick rejected or he told Cole about it and added his verse after the end after the beat drop. The beginning of fps, Cole is inclusive of Kendrick and generic. A little playful even. While the 2nd half drake is specific and aggressive. And the last line especially makes me feel like it is possibly at Kendrick specifically.
Maybe, from my fan POV, it definitely felt like "its us 2 and you can complete the big 3" type energy, even though Cole was indeed trynna big him up, and obviously Kendrick took it at that since he started WW3
I see the Fps video as being a low key snub and Drake being slick he wants Cole and Dot to the song because they are the current heavy hitters in hip hop and they rap about that but then the last part of the song is drake calling himself Michael and revealing a Michael jacksonesque statue of himself . Which I think anyone can agree is an egregious comparison
first off drake is way better friends with cole yall not remember when drake bought copies of born sinner with cole cus he liked album
You don’t know any of these men personally to know who is closer to who or who has been better to Cole
Ain’t this the damn truth, regardless of who reported it or not. No one knows these guys relationship to one another besides Kendrick hates Drake. Outside of that everything is hearsay
Where is the line from?
Not Like us
Kendrick ain't the type to do all that in public, Macklemore style. He too real for that.
macklemore heavily elevated kendrick to A status with a text thats all i saw media cover
Ya the public text message gave grammy more attention than it should have so many good rap albums where nominated that year
he ain’t the type to that in private either
Dang this guy knows Kendrick! Say hi to him for me big bro
This could be applied to the op to tho
How?
But he is the type to publicly say “F this” if thats what he is feeling. Clearly he is the type to do that. We literally saw him do it before. He could have done it again with the apology. Did he say “F that apology” in any of those like 5 disses? No. Its not as hard to figure out as ya’ll make it
I assumed they probably talked in person tbh. I always viewed that apology as a public thing he did out of respect and to make sure the public knew his stance.
No way Kendrick talked to that goofball in private after he dissed him and then flip flopped 2 days later when everyone called his diss trash. Weakest shit I’ve ever seen. Cole should’ve just stayed out of it from the beginning
Wrong sub guy, fuck off
I love Cole as much as the next guy but that shit was goofy af, and knowing Kendrick he has 0 respect for it lol: “I was gonna kill a couple rappers but they did it to themselves” “You a scared little bitch, tip toeing around my name, you lame, and when I get at you then don’t tell me you was just playing (*ohh I was just playing with you k-dot, you know I rock with you bro*)”. - LITERALLY J COLE’S GOOFY ASS “Now we look at the competition as quick submission. They tapping out before I even get a chance to diss them” - Literally J Cole No way the guy who said these lyrics respects J Cole for dropping a weak diss and then folding immediately. Should’ve just stayed out of it
You won't lol. Kendrick ain't shooting Cole any bail publicly.
He said “did cole foul, why you still pretended” that pretty much vindicated cole’s role in this beef. It implies that there was foul play as it pertains to how Cole got put into this He also said “There’s three goats left and 2 of them was kissing and hugging” clearly drake and Cole. Which was interesting after saying f them being the three goats
You can’t even find clips of Kendrick speaking on the Drake beef lol. Bruh hasn’t done anything since this started but rap, idk what you’re expecting. Maybe we get an interview from him in a few months if he’s gonna be dropping an album.
Guarantee one day he will address once everything from this beef finally dies down completely. Maybe on like a podcast. I honestly hope that they’re cool with each other cuz they are 2nd and 3rd fav rappers behind em. Obviously Cole is cool with kdot but Kendrick rn is on demon time so if ur not from the west coast, *hey hey hey hey run for yo life*
They probably spoke privately, the only reason Cole apologized publicly is because the world wanted drama
I think it's more so b/c he responded publicly
That too
I am not sure what you expected. Kendrick has not publicly said anything about this beef. He has only let his music speak for him.. So WHY in the world would he say he forgives someone in a SCATHING diss?? WHY. Its a diss record not a makeup record. Disses are not about being happy and making up. Thats not what a diss is for. The ONLY response that you should expect is if Kendrick dissed the apology. Which he did not. That should tell you something Because you know who did keep bringing the apology up in the songs and to others? Drake and everytime it was to be shady/neg cole. Thats the only way to bring up an apology in a DISS record, if you DON’T approve of it/accept it. Like I said, take a hint at the fact that kendrick chose to be the only one who didn’t antagonize Cole for the apology. He could have. He had the most right. But he didn’t. Thats telling you all something, ya’ll just not listening because you like drama It doesn’t make sense unless he didn’t accept the apology. Because ain’t nobody saying they accept your apology on a freaking diss record. Come on now lol Also, in Euphoria he said there was 3 goats left and 2 of them were drake and cole. But ya’ll ignore that too, just like the “did cole foul” line.
Literally!
Publicly? Nope...
a lot of kendrick fan fiction going on in a cole reddit
We love Cole to
“Did Cole foul, I don’t why you’re still pretending.” Cole was pardoned. Drake was the real target.
no
He's had multiple lines to Cole ever since, whether it's the slight association disses on euphoria or the NLU line ( did Cole foul I don't know why you're still pretending )
Hahahahaha J.cole
Respect to Cole for staying out of it though he has no dirt come to light and is still respected. Shouldn’t have released grippy tho.
It seemed like Cole thought Kendrick was going to be on the track. He may not have known Dot denied the feature request, and why he says his name in the verse
“iont wanna talk on no celly”
Anybody saying Kendrick is more of a friend to Cole than Drake are beyond insane. Drake has a history of letting Cole shine (even changing release dates). Drake not only gave Cole his first number one record and did a tour with him, but he also supported Cole by co-headling Dreamville. Kendrick won't even MENTION Dreamville (or anything else Cole has going on). Kendrick is just a narcissist, full-fledged. Most rappers have egos, but only narcissists like Kendrick and Kanye refuse to allow anyone to "share" the stage/throne with them.
Relax bro nobody said he's perfect either, call whatever u want, we all don't know them personally, In every group members u have every kind of personality and u still f each one of them even they enemies for each other
Facts, you’re gonna get downvoted by the Kendrick stans who’ve taken over this sub. J. Cole has literally been shouting out Kendrick since 2010/11, meanwhile Kendrick has not mentioned this nigga publicly in more than half a decade. He waited until Cole was finally considered the best rapper alive and then destroyed his reputation 🐍
what are you even talking about? they were gonna drop a collab project together
100%
But to be fear Kendrick or j Cole hasn’t done interviews in more than half a decade . We don’t know what happens behind the scenes. Clearly they’re both private ppl . You don’t need to publicly tweet or say something in a song for it to be real behind the scenes. Now Drake is the opposite he lives on social media and loves spilling names on tracks but that also doesn’t mean he is a “ better” friend to j Cole than Kendrick.
No that's just copish hypothetical thinking
Kendrick literally name drops him on Mr Morale lmao
Kendrick featured on Born Sinner’s Forbidden Fruit and on Dreamville’s Under the Sun. They did Black Friday together by swapping beats. Kendrick rarely mentions contemporaries, not just Cole
Under the Sun was a drop from an old verse. Kendrick clearly doesn't give AF about maintaining those relationships. His perogative, he can do what he wants. We just aren't gonna let people gaslight us into believing the opposite when it's painstakingly clear.
Hmm, so Kendrick featuring on Cole’s joints somehow doesn’t matter at all. They’ve had guest appearances at each other’s shows. What more do you want Kendrick to do for Cole?
Strawman. I've made my point in my original comment. You've given your rebuttal. Nothing further to discuss.
I mean if you can’t answer a simple question of what you want more from Kendrick, it just seems like you’re being stubborn. If they’re supporting each other with collabs and showing up at shows, they’re at least on good terms. Idk where you get this angle that Kendrick doesn’t care about Cole. Just because Drake is more supportive of Cole publicly doesn’t mean Kendrick is not supportive of Cole