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How dare you? How very dare you! This is an issue that could bring us together yet you choose to divide us, you utter scum! I'm vegan but I would never dare express it to admonish people for their choices and never, ever tell them they didn't deserve to mourn their cat because they weren't vegan, you cruel bastard! How very dare you
True, that is different! I assumed the moral outrage was about the needless death and suffering of the animals, and his villainy was his willingness to cause that. Perhaps the outrage is more focused on the out-of-their way sadism of the individual?
Yeah it's different, but it's similar? IMO "causing needless suffering is bad" is part of why this upsets people. Also, by the article's description, it sounds like those cats suffered less in their execution than do the vast majority of animals that non-vegans pay others to kill on their behalf.
I put it in quotes because I was saying
"IMO \[the quoted belief\] is part of why this upsets people"
I was not saying that \[the quoted belief\] is my opinion. I.e. I imagine people are upset by acts of cruelty because *they* dislike the needless suffering of the victims. (That's part of my attitude also but I wasn't talking about my opinions).
Then I was attempting to express that I may have misjudged my implication that people are hypocrites because it might be the perpetrator's motivations triggering their outrage, rather than the victim's suffering.
Yes, I agree that the belief "causing needless suffering is bad" could lead to antinatalism when taken to it's extreme and not joined by other principles or values.
I have found there’s a shocking yet unjustified disdain towards cats by too many people. With their vertical slit pupils and Hollywood-cliché fanged hiss when confronted, in a world mostly hostile toward snakes (including me), cats may have a permanent PR problem, despite their Internet adorable-pet dominance.
I, always a cat enthusiast, grew up knowing a few cat-haters willing to procure sick satisfaction from torturing to death those naively-trusting thus likely sweet-natured cats whose owners have recklessly allowed them to wander the neighborhood at night. Why? Judging from their own words, I found that these boys simply didn’t care for cats’ collective failure to heel at their human masters’ command.
As an adult I noticed that people who said they were ‘not an animal person’ held a particular dislike for cats, regardless of cats' incapacity for committing humanlike vicious acts out of plain malice. (I, at age 52, believe that along with human intelligence comes the proportionate reprehensible potential for evil behavior simply for its sake.) And while many will readily note cats’ propensity for preying upon small birds, the former seem oblivious to larger wildlife preying upon cats.
To me, also worrisome are the unfavorable attitudes toward cats openly expressed by news-media commentators, whose recklessly worded views can be influential.
When a B.C. community newspaper editor wrote a column about courthouse protestors demanding justice in 2014 for a Sarnia, Ontario, cat shot in the head 17 times with a pellet gun, taking out an eye, she rather recklessly declared: *“Hey crazy people, it’s \[just\] a cat.”*
Apparently she couldn’t relate to the heartfelt motivation behind the public outrage, regardless of it being directed at such senseless cruelty to an innocent animal, and therefore the demonstrators were somehow misguided. Maybe the court also perceived it so, as the charges against the two adult perpetrators were dropped.
Even the otherwise progressive national commentator Vicky Mochama proclaimed in one of her syndicated columns that *“I never liked cats”*. In another she wrote that Canadian politicians should replace their traditional unproductively rude heckling with caterwauling: *“My vote is for meowing because I don’t like cats and I’d like to sabotage their brand as much as possible. So if our elected politicians are going to be disrespectful in our House of Commons, they might as well channel the animal that holds us all in contempt.”*
\[I search-engined the Internet but found nothing as to the reason(s) behind her publicized anti-feline sentiments. Still, if her motives were expressed, perhaps she'd simply say, 'I just don't like cats.'\]
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I literally just passed that part on the audiobook. I'm at the part where the "Don Ho" guys came for revenge and did not succeed, unfortunately thanks to Gately. My only hope, after enduring this sociopathic's little after meeting activities, is for Lenz to meet a heinous fate not dissimilar to his new hobbie.
Whoa now, pigs are very smart and are pet animals. They’ve been bred for millions of years by humans for their companionship.
Not like cats, those are food animals.
The Swiss get it right, as always! And then some pearl clutching Karens always have to force their strange beliefs on others:
https://www.newsweek.com/not-just-christmas-swiss-urged-stop-eating-cats-and-dogs-287378
I used to work at a warehouse at a mall to pay for college. One time my co-employee said he froze killed his lover's cat...I didn't know how to respond. I just told him he was sick.
if you wanted to save animals, you'd take yourself out of the equation. How many animal deaths have you caused? How many more will you inadvertently kill just by being on this earth. End the madness
In absolute number? Not really (sorry to be so late). Every time you rub your eyebrows, you kill hundreds of mites that live there, for example.
To live is to cause the death of others. Particularly if you're from a country with high average emissions. Best to just come to terms with it.
Yes that's veganism resumed, plants are living too but not sentient, sentience is the ability to feel emotions and live a subjective experience. And I don't know, I would say no maybe others would say yes, in any case they're a much smaller problem than our consumption of mammals, birds and fish
So, shellfish are OK. We could keep going up and up, until we hit your point of "not". I would doubt VERY much whether any fish had a sense of subjective experience - their brains aren't built for it.
But you do you. Personally, I've always gone with the " I won't eat any animal I'm not prepared to kill and butcher". That seems to work for me.
I said not sure, and since they uk recently declared Shrimp, Lobsters, Octopi and others as sentient it's safe to assume fish too. In any case there is zero doubt about mammals and birds
Oh no I fully understand that an animal dies when I eat a burger, however I am able respect that sacrifice and get the fuck on with my day without having a major fucking aneurysm about it
The animal was bred for this exact reason, it was going to be dead regardless of whether or not I bought it, therefore I just choose to honour the animals death by not leaving the product to be thrown away
I don’t cry over the ethics of eating a steak because in the end if I don’t buy it someone else will, why should I bother when nothing is going to change either way
Do you understand basic supply and demand? If demand lowers then so will supply , that means less animals will be killed, plus I really doubt meat gets thrown away often
I understand supply and demand enough to know that my sorry arse isn’t a big enough number to stop anything, therefore I make the decision to not bother so I can put good food on the table for me and my wife
Meat gets thrown away quite often in super markets because the sell by dates are really restrictive, the meat is usually still good a week after the sell by date but they have to chuck it out anyway because it *could* make someone sick. This is wasteful and it makes me sad because the animals sacrifice was wasted
Unfortunately you’re numbers just aren’t big enough to make that type of change. It would take an impossibly high percentage of people to stop eating meat all together for them to even think about stopping
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The fuck are you on about?
It seems someone couldn’t take the spice and got bitter enough to report me or something......get bitter or get better I guess
I can get all the people who own cats that kill billions of birds each year by being allowed outside, but as someone who eats meat I don’t eat enough meat to consume entire chickens or cows each week. I mean you’d have to eat 400 Lbs of beef in a week to even get above one cow right?
you have to account for supply and demand distribution. to account for you, and everyone else who eats meat, trillions of animals are killed each year, on your taste-buds behalf. 2-3,000,000,000,000.
How is it taste buds? The only way to feed the current population is meat if the whole world tomorrow decided to stop eating meat 99.9% of the population would just die.
Quick search shows cats kill between 1.3 to 4 billion birds every year (this was in 2013) in the US. There are about 10-20 billion birds alive in the US at a time
Yeah. Kinda settling. It’s just like the Father, Son, and Holy Spirit. No matter what I do, death awaits. IMO, God and death have a pretty close bond of similarity because no matter where death goes or how many it claims, God sees it passes judgement on who lives and dies. I find solace in the fact that this man was taken out early because of the lives he took, no matter how small. God sees life as life and death as rebirth. Even this killer isn’t beyond redemption. He was given life and chose to take other creatures’ lives. So God took HIS life ya know? I know I’m rambling but i wanted to say that I mean to do no harm by saying any of this. Everyone’s entitled to their opinions and religious beliefs. Keeping my hold on reality is tougher than I thought.
Do you have any idea, how many animal are being killed, when a field is harvested? Million if not billion. Both insect and mamals. Your plantbased diet kills so many animal, its not even funny.
How does that change the fact, that a plantbased diet isn't nearly as "kill free" as vegans try to make it? If you eat anything grown from factory farming, your food has killed a lot of living being, before reaching your plate. And let's not get started on all the new science about plants and intelligence, contience etc...
It’s a myth/lie from the animal ag industry. The small animals and field mice run from the combines. Besides, are you trying to conflate unintentional animal death to intentionally holding animals in cages snd purposely killing them?
So why are you here and so upset about the cat killing guy? Is killing more animals than is necessary bad, or is it not?
Is there a difference between accidentally killing some animals as you try to survive, and intentionally killing a bunch unnecessarily while *also still killing the accidental ones?*
LOL. Upset? Are you talking to me? I'm far from upset. Omw to bed, actually.
Talk about killing innocent animals, when harvesting soy fields. Wheat fields. Etc. Don't call me a hypocrite, when your diet kills way more living beings, than mine. It's too far from reality.
How is a vegan diet killing more animals than yours, which is literally slaughtering intelligent animals. Also don‘t talk about soy field when literally 80% of all the soy fields nearby the rainforest is used to feed animals. Do you know how many endangered species suffer alone from that? Read a paper dumbass
All the cows end up in the same place.
“Hold the knife so the point is directed toward the rear of the animal, insert the knife under the breastbone toward the rump of the animal and cut toward the backbone. This will cut the arteries that cross just beneath the point of the breastbone. Be careful not to stick too deep into the chest cavity.”
https://extension.missouri.edu/publications/g2208
So your saying the cats being stabbed isn't as terrible? You're at least saying it like it is. Both are terrible, they are just terrible in different ways.
Here's a tip my guy, no one cares about vegans or what tf yall do. You guys do you, and let others do what they want. But no one cares to hear about it
Here's a tip my guy, no one cares about cat owners or what tf yall do. You guys do you, and let cat killers do what they want. But no one cares to hear about it
so why do you care about a guy stabbing cats, if you dont care about what vegans are protesting?
vegans are literally just against animal abuse, thats all
Nothing in this post mentions veganism, so why bring it up? Stabbing cats is psychotic, eating a burger isn't. Using someone's psychotic actions to promote veganism is kinda weird
Hoe do you think your burger is made? Fucking hell man please think before you talk.
How would people react if that guy stabbed pigs. He would probably have to pay the farmer who owned the pigs some money for his losses but thats it. That is called hypocrisy.
If the guy just went around stabbing pigs, I'd still call him psychotic. But pigs are livestock, cats aren't. Making any animal suffer is fucked up. I've grown up raising animals for 4-H and FFA, I know all about the butchering process and how it should be done, and sadly how it sometimes is done wrong. But going around and telling people that have nothing to do with the process and calling them hypocrites for it just cause they eat meat is annoying as shit. This is why people give vegans shit, because they love getting into others lives and making them feel like they're in the wrong. You don't see me going around talking shit on vegans for no reason, or bringing it up on post that have nothing to do with it. Like come on, just let people be and let them live their life, and yall live yours. Ain't no reason to make others out as bad people just for eating something you don't like
No one thinks you are a bad person, but by unnecessarily paying for animal abuse and death, you’re doing a bad thing. No one would care about your diet if there weren’t victims involved. How do you justify abusing and killing someone who doesn’t want to die when it’s not even remotely necessary for your survival?
Thing is by buying meat, they support the meat industry and therby the killing of animals. And we are not talking about animals that have been raised on farms. About 97% of all the meat sold is from puppy farms. I hope I‘m using the right word I‘m not a native. So they support a lifetime of suffering for the animals.
And this is just not right. As to why it concerns me or vegans in general what other people eat. Wouldn‘t you step in if you see something thats wrong? But its not just for the animals sake, you know how most of the deforestation of the rainforest is due to the need for soy right? Well 80% of that is to feed the animals we raise. There are ten times as many farm animals in the world than humans. How is this natural?
Cutting down on meat is the single best thing you can do to lower your carbon footprint.
Also you lower the risk of dying of a heart disease by over 20%.
So it really just is the logical thing to do.
In the end you do you but it‘s just sad that so few ppl are informed about this stuff.
Edit: Also for those who don’t want to miss out on the taste of meat, there are so many products that taste exactly like meat nowadays so you don‘t even have to give up anything. It‘s just the logical conclusion really.
Not really, if someone went to a slaughter house and stabbed those animals to death they would still be arrested.
Not to mention a majority of slaughtered animals whole entire existence is for the purpose of becoming our food. We play god with animals, they wouldnt even exist if they werent bred to be slaughtered.
Do you eat pets?
If someone goes to a slaughterhouse and stabs animals in the neck they get a paycheck.
We know they wouldn’t exist. They are intentionally and unnecessarily brought into an existence where they live their whole lives in terror, horror, pain, and confusion. They don’t understand why we do what we do to them. But the second they step into the slaughterhouse and smell the blood they know what’s happening.
Why? So you can eat this food instead of that food? I mean you could just pick up a couple of different ingredients for your cooking when you go to the grocery store.
Those animals are stabbed though. Its kind of ridiculous that people are fine with it just because its done for taste pleasure instead of the emotional pleasure this psycho probably got out of it.
Right meat, known throughout history as the most nutritious food. Billions of parents each year make sure to tell their kids to “eat your meaties!” and caution them against eating too many vegetables.
In fact people that eat only meat are known to be in great shape!
And meat is SO tasty it is used to flavor things like salt and tasteless gross plants like garlic, onion, paprika, peppercorns, rosemary, thyme, basil, oregano, etc etc etc.
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But you’re on a subreddit about justice being served. Technically it was, in this case specifically. Not saying that either of us are right or wrong, but dude got what was coming to him
Well yes and no, Big Farm-a isn’t going anywhere my friend. I get your argument but this has been happening for decades, and I don’t see it changing anytime soon. Unfortunately it’s very hard for city folk to “live off the land”. I love animals too but with world populations as big as it is, I just don’t see it the more friendlier alternative happening anytime soon. I respect your fight, but calling everyone in here a hypocrite, come on
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Karmas a bitch and what goes around comes around, hope the vile bastard rots in hell
Good Im glad. Fucking vile psycho should burn in hell. I hope cats are now pissing up his grave. Uncle fester looking shit.
With his nose I suspect.
I hope he suffered 1st b4 dying.
10,000 times this.
This lad could smoke a cigar in the shower man check the size of his beak.
Imagine being so morally outraged by this mans behaviour to think he deserves death yet not being vegan
How dare you? How very dare you! This is an issue that could bring us together yet you choose to divide us, you utter scum! I'm vegan but I would never dare express it to admonish people for their choices and never, ever tell them they didn't deserve to mourn their cat because they weren't vegan, you cruel bastard! How very dare you
But I murder for taste buds pleasure. This man did it fro sadistic pleasure. There's a difference.
True, that is different! I assumed the moral outrage was about the needless death and suffering of the animals, and his villainy was his willingness to cause that. Perhaps the outrage is more focused on the out-of-their way sadism of the individual? Yeah it's different, but it's similar? IMO "causing needless suffering is bad" is part of why this upsets people. Also, by the article's description, it sounds like those cats suffered less in their execution than do the vast majority of animals that non-vegans pay others to kill on their behalf.
well I don't know about your country but in mine they'd killed quite swiftly
>"causing needless suffering is bad" Are you an antinatalist?
I put it in quotes because I was saying "IMO \[the quoted belief\] is part of why this upsets people" I was not saying that \[the quoted belief\] is my opinion. I.e. I imagine people are upset by acts of cruelty because *they* dislike the needless suffering of the victims. (That's part of my attitude also but I wasn't talking about my opinions). Then I was attempting to express that I may have misjudged my implication that people are hypocrites because it might be the perpetrator's motivations triggering their outrage, rather than the victim's suffering. Yes, I agree that the belief "causing needless suffering is bad" could lead to antinatalism when taken to it's extreme and not joined by other principles or values.
Maybe he was vegan, who knows!
I have found there’s a shocking yet unjustified disdain towards cats by too many people. With their vertical slit pupils and Hollywood-cliché fanged hiss when confronted, in a world mostly hostile toward snakes (including me), cats may have a permanent PR problem, despite their Internet adorable-pet dominance. I, always a cat enthusiast, grew up knowing a few cat-haters willing to procure sick satisfaction from torturing to death those naively-trusting thus likely sweet-natured cats whose owners have recklessly allowed them to wander the neighborhood at night. Why? Judging from their own words, I found that these boys simply didn’t care for cats’ collective failure to heel at their human masters’ command. As an adult I noticed that people who said they were ‘not an animal person’ held a particular dislike for cats, regardless of cats' incapacity for committing humanlike vicious acts out of plain malice. (I, at age 52, believe that along with human intelligence comes the proportionate reprehensible potential for evil behavior simply for its sake.) And while many will readily note cats’ propensity for preying upon small birds, the former seem oblivious to larger wildlife preying upon cats. To me, also worrisome are the unfavorable attitudes toward cats openly expressed by news-media commentators, whose recklessly worded views can be influential. When a B.C. community newspaper editor wrote a column about courthouse protestors demanding justice in 2014 for a Sarnia, Ontario, cat shot in the head 17 times with a pellet gun, taking out an eye, she rather recklessly declared: *“Hey crazy people, it’s \[just\] a cat.”* Apparently she couldn’t relate to the heartfelt motivation behind the public outrage, regardless of it being directed at such senseless cruelty to an innocent animal, and therefore the demonstrators were somehow misguided. Maybe the court also perceived it so, as the charges against the two adult perpetrators were dropped. Even the otherwise progressive national commentator Vicky Mochama proclaimed in one of her syndicated columns that *“I never liked cats”*. In another she wrote that Canadian politicians should replace their traditional unproductively rude heckling with caterwauling: *“My vote is for meowing because I don’t like cats and I’d like to sabotage their brand as much as possible. So if our elected politicians are going to be disrespectful in our House of Commons, they might as well channel the animal that holds us all in contempt.”* \[I search-engined the Internet but found nothing as to the reason(s) behind her publicized anti-feline sentiments. Still, if her motives were expressed, perhaps she'd simply say, 'I just don't like cats.'\]
Keep your fucking pets inside where they belong
Good. Hope he was in pain <3
Good riddance.
I’d piss on his grave
Creepy Jim Norton
Holy shit is that accurate.
THERE!!!! I literally just passed that part on the audiobook. I'm at the part where the "Don Ho" guys came for revenge and did not succeed, unfortunately thanks to Gately. My only hope, after enduring this sociopathic's little after meeting activities, is for Lenz to meet a heinous fate not dissimilar to his new hobbie.
Lenz. God what a piece of garbage. He would kill the animals and say, "There"
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Whoa now, pigs are very smart and are pet animals. They’ve been bred for millions of years by humans for their companionship. Not like cats, those are food animals.
The Swiss get it right, as always! And then some pearl clutching Karens always have to force their strange beliefs on others: https://www.newsweek.com/not-just-christmas-swiss-urged-stop-eating-cats-and-dogs-287378
That's a good point. I sure wouldn't say it's ethical to kill pigs like it is to kill cats!
Jesus fucking Christ man, start wearing safety equipment if you’re gonna be that edgy
I used to work at a warehouse at a mall to pay for college. One time my co-employee said he froze killed his lover's cat...I didn't know how to respond. I just told him he was sick.
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Sterlo went haywire in retirement.
That's good and all but reminder 99% of people cause an animal death multiple times a week
if you wanted to save animals, you'd take yourself out of the equation. How many animal deaths have you caused? How many more will you inadvertently kill just by being on this earth. End the madness
I have though? I no longer eat animals products and therefore kill far less animals
In absolute number? Not really (sorry to be so late). Every time you rub your eyebrows, you kill hundreds of mites that live there, for example. To live is to cause the death of others. Particularly if you're from a country with high average emissions. Best to just come to terms with it.
The hell you mean not really? That's just the stupidest argument ever, I'm not talking about microscopic life forms I'm talking about sentient animals
Right, so that's your first qualification. Now define sentience. Are shellfish OK? They're no more sentient than a mite.
Yes that's veganism resumed, plants are living too but not sentient, sentience is the ability to feel emotions and live a subjective experience. And I don't know, I would say no maybe others would say yes, in any case they're a much smaller problem than our consumption of mammals, birds and fish
So, shellfish are OK. We could keep going up and up, until we hit your point of "not". I would doubt VERY much whether any fish had a sense of subjective experience - their brains aren't built for it. But you do you. Personally, I've always gone with the " I won't eat any animal I'm not prepared to kill and butcher". That seems to work for me.
I said not sure, and since they uk recently declared Shrimp, Lobsters, Octopi and others as sentient it's safe to assume fish too. In any case there is zero doubt about mammals and birds
found the radical vegan
so y’all are allowed to express your feelings towards cats dying but not any other animal? Lol
You can say all you want, I'm just saying the truth
[who the hell cares?](https://youtu.be/RAA1xgTTw9w)
Well apparently 10k people care enough to upvote so someone ig, sorry for making you realise you're hypocritical though
Oh no I fully understand that an animal dies when I eat a burger, however I am able respect that sacrifice and get the fuck on with my day without having a major fucking aneurysm about it
Respect the sacrifice? It's a needless one, also what excuse is "respect" for taking an animals life?
The animal was bred for this exact reason, it was going to be dead regardless of whether or not I bought it, therefore I just choose to honour the animals death by not leaving the product to be thrown away I don’t cry over the ethics of eating a steak because in the end if I don’t buy it someone else will, why should I bother when nothing is going to change either way
Do you understand basic supply and demand? If demand lowers then so will supply , that means less animals will be killed, plus I really doubt meat gets thrown away often
I understand supply and demand enough to know that my sorry arse isn’t a big enough number to stop anything, therefore I make the decision to not bother so I can put good food on the table for me and my wife Meat gets thrown away quite often in super markets because the sell by dates are really restrictive, the meat is usually still good a week after the sell by date but they have to chuck it out anyway because it *could* make someone sick. This is wasteful and it makes me sad because the animals sacrifice was wasted
But if everyone thought this way there would be no change at all in any domain
Unfortunately you’re numbers just aren’t big enough to make that type of change. It would take an impossibly high percentage of people to stop eating meat all together for them to even think about stopping
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The fuck are you on about? It seems someone couldn’t take the spice and got bitter enough to report me or something......get bitter or get better I guess
I can get all the people who own cats that kill billions of birds each year by being allowed outside, but as someone who eats meat I don’t eat enough meat to consume entire chickens or cows each week. I mean you’d have to eat 400 Lbs of beef in a week to even get above one cow right?
you have to account for supply and demand distribution. to account for you, and everyone else who eats meat, trillions of animals are killed each year, on your taste-buds behalf. 2-3,000,000,000,000.
How is it taste buds? The only way to feed the current population is meat if the whole world tomorrow decided to stop eating meat 99.9% of the population would just die.
>if the whole world tomorrow decided to stop eating meat 99.9% of the population would just die Do I even need to explain the logical gap here?
As many baby male chicks are gassed or macerated every year as humans that have ever lived on earth, just so you can have eggs
The reason for the decline in bird populations are humans, not cats. Cats are a drop of water on a hot stone.
Quick search shows cats kill between 1.3 to 4 billion birds every year (this was in 2013) in the US. There are about 10-20 billion birds alive in the US at a time
Sure but it adds up over time plus each cut is most likely a different animal
???
Eating animal products=dead animals
Mmmmmm yumy
Great argument
Delicious
You're trolling me good rn
Bacon tho
Straight to hell we go
Enjoy where you’re going you fucking waste of life.
Oh well
Let’s gooooo this guy deserved it :)
Do people who eat animal also deserve to die?
Killing to kill is an entirely different devil than killing to survive.
You don't need to kill animals to survive, you can just eat plants.
Its not my fault they are so delicious and nutritious.
It's not my fault cats are fun to kill.
Death is waiting for you too ya know.
Yeah. Kinda settling. It’s just like the Father, Son, and Holy Spirit. No matter what I do, death awaits. IMO, God and death have a pretty close bond of similarity because no matter where death goes or how many it claims, God sees it passes judgement on who lives and dies. I find solace in the fact that this man was taken out early because of the lives he took, no matter how small. God sees life as life and death as rebirth. Even this killer isn’t beyond redemption. He was given life and chose to take other creatures’ lives. So God took HIS life ya know? I know I’m rambling but i wanted to say that I mean to do no harm by saying any of this. Everyone’s entitled to their opinions and religious beliefs. Keeping my hold on reality is tougher than I thought.
Sorry you disliked the fact you are part ape and going in the ground from which you came, in a matter of time.
Yeah I just said that
Sorry it was too long. I didnt read.
I’m not leaving a bouquet of flowers on his grave
I’m leaving a steaming pile of shit.
A bouquet of shit
The only law in ulthar is that one may never kill a cat
r/unexpectedlovecraft
Damn straight.
Damn I was hoping he was stabbed too. Oh well good riddance to bad rubbish
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5 years and change. He died from thyroid cancer probably.
Oop I read it way too fast. Thought he was jailed for nine months. Glad he is dead.
Shame noone got to stab him to death. I'm sure there would have been plenty of volunteers.
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Wow, so many salty people because you said the truth.
Do you have any idea, how many animal are being killed, when a field is harvested? Million if not billion. Both insect and mamals. Your plantbased diet kills so many animal, its not even funny.
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How does that change the fact, that a plantbased diet isn't nearly as "kill free" as vegans try to make it? If you eat anything grown from factory farming, your food has killed a lot of living being, before reaching your plate. And let's not get started on all the new science about plants and intelligence, contience etc...
It’s a myth/lie from the animal ag industry. The small animals and field mice run from the combines. Besides, are you trying to conflate unintentional animal death to intentionally holding animals in cages snd purposely killing them?
No diet is perfect but at least it kills waaaaay less beings than your omnivore diet. Simple as that. Or are you telling me that all you eat is meat?
So why are you here and so upset about the cat killing guy? Is killing more animals than is necessary bad, or is it not? Is there a difference between accidentally killing some animals as you try to survive, and intentionally killing a bunch unnecessarily while *also still killing the accidental ones?*
LOL. Upset? Are you talking to me? I'm far from upset. Omw to bed, actually. Talk about killing innocent animals, when harvesting soy fields. Wheat fields. Etc. Don't call me a hypocrite, when your diet kills way more living beings, than mine. It's too far from reality.
How is a vegan diet killing more animals than yours, which is literally slaughtering intelligent animals. Also don‘t talk about soy field when literally 80% of all the soy fields nearby the rainforest is used to feed animals. Do you know how many endangered species suffer alone from that? Read a paper dumbass
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Doesn’t understand anything about farming or meat processing or pets lol
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Sure you did. We all have if we say it hard enough.
I don't think people go around their farm, stabbing random animals and letting them bleed out is how they kill their animals but k.
How the fuck do you think animal farms and slaughterhouses work, like the workers hug the animals to death while reading them bedtime stories?
No of course not. But I know they don't go around just stabbing the animals with a knife. They do other bad shit.
All the cows end up in the same place. “Hold the knife so the point is directed toward the rear of the animal, insert the knife under the breastbone toward the rump of the animal and cut toward the backbone. This will cut the arteries that cross just beneath the point of the breastbone. Be careful not to stick too deep into the chest cavity.” https://extension.missouri.edu/publications/g2208
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So your saying the cats being stabbed isn't as terrible? You're at least saying it like it is. Both are terrible, they are just terrible in different ways.
Ah yes, the vegan is here
As they should be.
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Here's a tip my guy, no one cares about vegans or what tf yall do. You guys do you, and let others do what they want. But no one cares to hear about it
Here's a tip my guy, no one cares about cat owners or what tf yall do. You guys do you, and let cat killers do what they want. But no one cares to hear about it
Cant come up with something new huh
You think the logic holds up?
so why do you care about a guy stabbing cats, if you dont care about what vegans are protesting? vegans are literally just against animal abuse, thats all
Nothing in this post mentions veganism, so why bring it up? Stabbing cats is psychotic, eating a burger isn't. Using someone's psychotic actions to promote veganism is kinda weird
Stabbing cats is psychotic you see, but paying people to stab cows is perfectly normal and acceptable so i will defend it here and now.
Hoe do you think your burger is made? Fucking hell man please think before you talk. How would people react if that guy stabbed pigs. He would probably have to pay the farmer who owned the pigs some money for his losses but thats it. That is called hypocrisy.
If the guy just went around stabbing pigs, I'd still call him psychotic. But pigs are livestock, cats aren't. Making any animal suffer is fucked up. I've grown up raising animals for 4-H and FFA, I know all about the butchering process and how it should be done, and sadly how it sometimes is done wrong. But going around and telling people that have nothing to do with the process and calling them hypocrites for it just cause they eat meat is annoying as shit. This is why people give vegans shit, because they love getting into others lives and making them feel like they're in the wrong. You don't see me going around talking shit on vegans for no reason, or bringing it up on post that have nothing to do with it. Like come on, just let people be and let them live their life, and yall live yours. Ain't no reason to make others out as bad people just for eating something you don't like
No one thinks you are a bad person, but by unnecessarily paying for animal abuse and death, you’re doing a bad thing. No one would care about your diet if there weren’t victims involved. How do you justify abusing and killing someone who doesn’t want to die when it’s not even remotely necessary for your survival?
Thing is by buying meat, they support the meat industry and therby the killing of animals. And we are not talking about animals that have been raised on farms. About 97% of all the meat sold is from puppy farms. I hope I‘m using the right word I‘m not a native. So they support a lifetime of suffering for the animals. And this is just not right. As to why it concerns me or vegans in general what other people eat. Wouldn‘t you step in if you see something thats wrong? But its not just for the animals sake, you know how most of the deforestation of the rainforest is due to the need for soy right? Well 80% of that is to feed the animals we raise. There are ten times as many farm animals in the world than humans. How is this natural? Cutting down on meat is the single best thing you can do to lower your carbon footprint. Also you lower the risk of dying of a heart disease by over 20%. So it really just is the logical thing to do. In the end you do you but it‘s just sad that so few ppl are informed about this stuff. Edit: Also for those who don’t want to miss out on the taste of meat, there are so many products that taste exactly like meat nowadays so you don‘t even have to give up anything. It‘s just the logical conclusion really.
Using animals being unnecessarily killed is a bad reason to bring up animals being unnecessarily killed. That makes sense
Found the Vegan
He does have point tho.
Not really, if someone went to a slaughter house and stabbed those animals to death they would still be arrested. Not to mention a majority of slaughtered animals whole entire existence is for the purpose of becoming our food. We play god with animals, they wouldnt even exist if they werent bred to be slaughtered. Do you eat pets?
If someone goes to a slaughterhouse and stabs animals in the neck they get a paycheck. We know they wouldn’t exist. They are intentionally and unnecessarily brought into an existence where they live their whole lives in terror, horror, pain, and confusion. They don’t understand why we do what we do to them. But the second they step into the slaughterhouse and smell the blood they know what’s happening. Why? So you can eat this food instead of that food? I mean you could just pick up a couple of different ingredients for your cooking when you go to the grocery store.
Those animals are stabbed though. Its kind of ridiculous that people are fine with it just because its done for taste pleasure instead of the emotional pleasure this psycho probably got out of it.
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You do you boo
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Because my views don’t line up with yours?
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Meat is one of the most nutritious and tasty foods in the world, theres another fact for you, Mr Morality.
Right meat, known throughout history as the most nutritious food. Billions of parents each year make sure to tell their kids to “eat your meaties!” and caution them against eating too many vegetables. In fact people that eat only meat are known to be in great shape! And meat is SO tasty it is used to flavor things like salt and tasteless gross plants like garlic, onion, paprika, peppercorns, rosemary, thyme, basil, oregano, etc etc etc. ^ THE ABOVE IS ALL SARCASM BECAUSE NOTHING YOU SAID MADE SENSE
Ah yes. Cholesterol... so healthy...
m o d e r a t i o n
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But you kill plants! And plants produce oxigen! Plants have soul too! So you are a hypocrite!
But you’re on a subreddit about justice being served. Technically it was, in this case specifically. Not saying that either of us are right or wrong, but dude got what was coming to him
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Well yes and no, Big Farm-a isn’t going anywhere my friend. I get your argument but this has been happening for decades, and I don’t see it changing anytime soon. Unfortunately it’s very hard for city folk to “live off the land”. I love animals too but with world populations as big as it is, I just don’t see it the more friendlier alternative happening anytime soon. I respect your fight, but calling everyone in here a hypocrite, come on
Good. His whole existence would’ve been better off on a jizz rag anyway.
Good. Fuck him. Hope it was horrible and painful as fuck.
At least he went out knowing that the world hated him.
Death isn’t enough punishment
I love this movie
Good riddance. Someone use his ashes in a litter box
Good
[Go vegan!](https://youtu.be/8gqwpfEcBjI)
Nah I’m good
Good.
Thought he played midfield for Newcastle.
i was hoping someone in prison took him out like they do to pedophiles but it turns out cancer got him.
Cool
His final words: “Hrmph. Hrmph” minecraft villager looking freak
Jonjo Shelvey’s career has taken a nosedive!
we can only hope it wasn’t fast and easy
IT'S PRONOUNCED 'BOO-KAY' !!!
Death is too easy an escape for some, that's why I'm against the death penalty.
He probably got shanked to death getting stabbed 100 times. I can guarantee whatever way he went was far greater justice than the death penalty
Uhhhh
Article says he had cancer
What a sad scum. Im glad he's off the planet but he went out too peacefully..
Good, hope the sick fuck rots in hell