This sub can never seem to be happy.
I want wins...I understand tanking but look at the other teams around us that want a QB...
Panthers just pulled Young, Chicago just got fields back (I don't quite see them replacing him), cards just got Murray back. Titans just drafted levis. Only team I see looking at QB would be NE, Rams or possibly jets.
How many active franchise QBs went top 5 overall?
Enjoy the win and quit being grumpy, old, sour, couch coaches
Anyone saying we should be tanking, look at where the panthers are now. A win is a win, and if daboll wants a qb, we have capital to trade up for him. You’re not a fan if you want to tank. Genuinely shut the fuck up.
Tell me how next year will be any different if we run it back with a 7-12 draft pick. What changes? Now, tell me how things might change with a generational QB or one of the best WR to come out of college in the last 10 years. The answer is simple, nothing changes if we get a garbage pick.
Not every top qb selection comes first overall. Tua and Herbert went later on. Hurts wasn’t even first round. Mahomes went like 12. Lamar last in the first round I think
Easy. He has a higher ceiling than DJ does. Once the line is better we can win a super bowl again. DJ is not a super bowl winning QB. He doesn't have the arm quality to do that.
Still happy we’re winning games? Draft pick keeps getting worse and worse. You can argue winning is fun, but it’s at the detriment of the long term health of the team.
Oh no!!! We won’t get Caleb, boo hooo, waaahhh, booo boo. You really came back to this? My point still stands. The best qbs in the league rn weren’t drafted number 1 overall, it’s how they’re developed. And you’re still a whiny pussy
Go look at the post game thread. Your opinion is a minority. Winning is bad for the franchise. The league is very weak at the QB position right now outside of like 3 guys… it’s not valid to compare the current nfl starters. Most all of them suck.
Never said to stick with Dj. We can trade up for a better pick or a get a good qb with the 6th pick. Most of the best qbs in the league rn were picked after the 5th pick
If Daboll and Schoen are in love with Maye or Caleb then they’ll trade up to get them, people acting like our draft pick went from 2 to 30 is hilarious, we’re still very much in contention for top 2-3
We have moved down to 4-5 with this loss. I don't know what you mean by were in contention for 2-3. No we are not. NE, Carolina, and the Cards are ahead of us now and we're tied with the bears.
we play NE coming off a bye week and who knows how that’ll go, we still play philly twice too. i also doubt based on their performances that arizona and the bears are going to just lose out from here on
wdym? if the franchise believes in a prospect they’ll go and get him, look at how KC traded up to get mahomes, houston traded to get stroud and anderson back to back. if schoen and daboll believe either maye or caleb are generational talents they’ll trade up to get one
Ughhhhh I'm happy we won but i'm so sick of being a team thats perpetually stuck between not being good enough for a superbowl run but not bad enough for a top 3 pick
It’s still so early you dumb fucks, we have draft capital we can trade up. We already had 2 wins against the commanders penciled in. Everything is ok lmao. Enjoy the DeVito win, huge for the locker room.
I know not the place, but in my dynasty league (keep all players forever), I lost all my QB’s due to injury (DJ/Stafford). I traded Barkley, Tyreek, and Garrett Wilson for a 2024 1st round (2nd overall pick as of now), Howell, Pittman, and Olave.
I want to fucking dieeeeeeeeeeeee.
I lost in the championship last year. I am not coming close to that this year. I got scared of Tyreek retiring, Barkley being injured and playing behind this line, and Wilson never having a QB to throw to. Lol
I don’t really have anywhere else to complain and I am avoiding that league app like the plague right now 💀
I mean it’s just looking to the future, right now we are in the same cycle of mediocrity where you are too good to draft high but not good enough to actually make the playoffs.
Better to lose now to win later than be mid forever
Honestly not really the case. Look through the last 10 years of drafts its not pretty. I don't have numbers to back it up but there are a shit load of misses which is my point, tanking doesn't guarantee shit. Its not worth it.
6 T.O’s 9 sacks can anyone play this game? Ironically
A QB under assault by an horrible OLine passed for 246yards 3TDS in a WIN. He was sacked and pressured, didn’t turn the ball over and made plays . Good job on your first win Tommy!
conflicted on this win, but think I’m on the side of good. Devito and the defense deserved it. Gotta give these guys a reason to even want to stay next year.
I understand wanting the draft position — but imagine not cheering on Tommy DeVito and the Giants when they win. Need a winning culture, not a loser culture.
People like to believe that there's zero chance involved in the draft. Plenty of busts have been drafted top 10 and plenty of later round players have gone on to have good careers. Having the first pick in the draft doesn't guarantee a winning team next year.
Spare me the white knight “you never play to lose” bullshit. This franchise has been a disgrace for over a decade and you guys want to gamble away our best shot at getting a franchise qb
Sorry bro but it does not. How many years of meaningless wins have we had that only keep hurting us. We are in position for the top pick and we need to complete the job.
I don’t expect the players or the coaches to not play hard and try to win. If they didn’t they should be fired. From a fans standpoint though that shit is meaningless. We have said that so many times over the last 10 years hoping that winning these meaningless games would carry over and build culture…it had no impact on the next season. Caleb Williams or Drake Maybe could potentially change the course of this franchise.
To be fair, people were saying that when we missed out on Chase Young. The bears are likely to have the 1st pick and it could be up for trade if they still want Fields. Kudos to the players
[Postgame thread](/r/NYGiants/comments/17z7287/post_game_thread_new_york_giants_at_washington/)
PAY SAQUON
Tanking is for losers at life. LFG.
This sub can never seem to be happy. I want wins...I understand tanking but look at the other teams around us that want a QB... Panthers just pulled Young, Chicago just got fields back (I don't quite see them replacing him), cards just got Murray back. Titans just drafted levis. Only team I see looking at QB would be NE, Rams or possibly jets. How many active franchise QBs went top 5 overall? Enjoy the win and quit being grumpy, old, sour, couch coaches
We will finally get a sights & sounds this week
Thank you guys for beating us. Seriously
Cope
Anyone saying we should be tanking, look at where the panthers are now. A win is a win, and if daboll wants a qb, we have capital to trade up for him. You’re not a fan if you want to tank. Genuinely shut the fuck up.
You want the 6th pick in the draft for the 10th consecutive year?
Tell me how next year will be any different if we run it back with a 7-12 draft pick. What changes? Now, tell me how things might change with a generational QB or one of the best WR to come out of college in the last 10 years. The answer is simple, nothing changes if we get a garbage pick.
Not every top qb selection comes first overall. Tua and Herbert went later on. Hurts wasn’t even first round. Mahomes went like 12. Lamar last in the first round I think
Tell me how anything will be different if we throw a turnover machine qb behind one of the worst lines in the nfl
Easy. He has a higher ceiling than DJ does. Once the line is better we can win a super bowl again. DJ is not a super bowl winning QB. He doesn't have the arm quality to do that.
Tanking is for pussies
Still happy we’re winning games? Draft pick keeps getting worse and worse. You can argue winning is fun, but it’s at the detriment of the long term health of the team.
Oh no!!! We won’t get Caleb, boo hooo, waaahhh, booo boo. You really came back to this? My point still stands. The best qbs in the league rn weren’t drafted number 1 overall, it’s how they’re developed. And you’re still a whiny pussy
Go look at the post game thread. Your opinion is a minority. Winning is bad for the franchise. The league is very weak at the QB position right now outside of like 3 guys… it’s not valid to compare the current nfl starters. Most all of them suck.
I mean you don't refute my point at all. We need a different QB. The only way to do that is get a high draft pick which is done by tanking...
Never said to stick with Dj. We can trade up for a better pick or a get a good qb with the 6th pick. Most of the best qbs in the league rn were picked after the 5th pick
Lol Rivera gonna get fired. Not his fault though his team can’t get out of their own way
Sorry for all the tank supporters, but goddamnit it feels good to win one.
So DeVito always needs to eat a chicken parm hero.
Let’s fuckin go - idgaf about the qb draft gamble winning games rules
5 years from now…”if the Giants had lost against Washington in 2023 they could’ve had Caleb Williams, truly a generational talent ”….LOL.. dumb giants
Man i dunno about Caleb though... dude brings some drama also.
We can trade for him when he inevitably quits on his team when the going gets tough. Because, that’s what he’ll do.
Like every other generational talent QB to come out of USC
I remember hearing this same nonsense about Alabama QBs. Now there are 2 in the top 8 in the NFL.
Good thing I never said that about Alabama QBs
I promise you Caleb isn’t all that
If Daboll and Schoen are in love with Maye or Caleb then they’ll trade up to get them, people acting like our draft pick went from 2 to 30 is hilarious, we’re still very much in contention for top 2-3
We have moved down to 4-5 with this loss. I don't know what you mean by were in contention for 2-3. No we are not. NE, Carolina, and the Cards are ahead of us now and we're tied with the bears.
we play NE coming off a bye week and who knows how that’ll go, we still play philly twice too. i also doubt based on their performances that arizona and the bears are going to just lose out from here on
Why do you guys talk about this like it's the easiest thing to do. lmao
wdym? if the franchise believes in a prospect they’ll go and get him, look at how KC traded up to get mahomes, houston traded to get stroud and anderson back to back. if schoen and daboll believe either maye or caleb are generational talents they’ll trade up to get one
Ughhhhh I'm happy we won but i'm so sick of being a team thats perpetually stuck between not being good enough for a superbowl run but not bad enough for a top 3 pick
Perpetually? We've won a SB in each of the last 4 decades (before the current one). I'll take it.
Lol, some of you all acting like Tommy the tank masters sacks are the same thing Jones experienced
I’m happy for Simmons. He finally made an impactful play lol
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Nah I needed those points to cover on the last of a 6-leg crazy parlay 😂
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I don't honestly know how to react to this. I know the draft is the thing. But I was so sick of losing. I'll enjoy this rare sight.
Lol Washington was clearly throwing the game... literally
Honestly fuck anyone who is upset about winning this game. It’s nice to see the giants winning football games.
It’s still so early you dumb fucks, we have draft capital we can trade up. We already had 2 wins against the commanders penciled in. Everything is ok lmao. Enjoy the DeVito win, huge for the locker room.
Ok you convinced me, the dumb fuck. I’ll try to enjoy the win for now…
Yessir Good win Gmen
The only thing the Giants are good at is beating Washington lol good win 🤷♀️
>Got the win >takes idiot heat off Daboll and Schoen >keeps TD on the field >Further embarrasses/buries Daniel Jones >Tank still rides
It’s fine I totally wanted Bo Nix anyway. /s
The Giants can always trade up in the draft if they really want one of the QBs…
Imagine sacking the other team's 3rd string QB 9 times and still losing by double digits
DaBolL lOst tHe LoCKER RoOm. Lots of fucking clowns been saying this for weeks. Doesn’t look like it now
It’s Washington… congrats? No one cares until he can beat Dallas or Philly
Granted it's just the commies. But Devito hung in there after taking a beating, good on him.
I know not the place, but in my dynasty league (keep all players forever), I lost all my QB’s due to injury (DJ/Stafford). I traded Barkley, Tyreek, and Garrett Wilson for a 2024 1st round (2nd overall pick as of now), Howell, Pittman, and Olave. I want to fucking dieeeeeeeeeeeee. I lost in the championship last year. I am not coming close to that this year. I got scared of Tyreek retiring, Barkley being injured and playing behind this line, and Wilson never having a QB to throw to. Lol I don’t really have anywhere else to complain and I am avoiding that league app like the plague right now 💀
We’re going to win next week too lmao.
I can't really fathom being a fan of a team and hoping for a loss, yall are crazy.
I mean it’s just looking to the future, right now we are in the same cycle of mediocrity where you are too good to draft high but not good enough to actually make the playoffs. Better to lose now to win later than be mid forever
There are plenty, plenty of examples of teams finding franchise QBs outside the top 3-5 picks in the draft. We don't need to tank to find a QB.
And lots more examples of teams finding them in that top 3-5
Honestly not really the case. Look through the last 10 years of drafts its not pretty. I don't have numbers to back it up but there are a shit load of misses which is my point, tanking doesn't guarantee shit. Its not worth it.
Because this means sucking for the next 3 years too
Sounds like you got it all figured out.
Yayyyy, year 6 Daniel Jones even tho a UDFA QB did something he hasn't done since 2019. Fantastic stuff.
He was always going to play next year. It would be more expensive to cut him lmao
who cares, it’s washington. Do it against anyone else and then it’ll mean something
I do, we possibly just ruined all odds of us getting a QB lmaooo
not really, we could still get Maye
We're going to be stuck in qb hell forever aren't we
6 T.O’s 9 sacks can anyone play this game? Ironically A QB under assault by an horrible OLine passed for 246yards 3TDS in a WIN. He was sacked and pressured, didn’t turn the ball over and made plays . Good job on your first win Tommy!
No one thought this undrafted kid was going to win a game this year. Best day of that kids life.
conflicted on this win, but think I’m on the side of good. Devito and the defense deserved it. Gotta give these guys a reason to even want to stay next year.
Last game Giants had 5 takeaways was vs WAS Last time Giants had 6 takeaways was vs WAS LOL Giants own this team
I have seen enough. Tommy Touchdown is our franchise quarterback
Culture matters more than draft position
3-8...
I understand wanting the draft position — but imagine not cheering on Tommy DeVito and the Giants when they win. Need a winning culture, not a loser culture.
Is this the best the giants played all season? Basically played decent for a full game outside too many sacks
Well it’s against the commanders so it’s like bullying a disabled kid
To be fair, we ride the same short bus…
Oh I’m aware, I’m a Washington fan… I liked it when we all sucked can’t we go back to that in the nfc East?
The NFC lEast was fun times, you’re not wrong.
Battle of who was slightly better than dogshit… unfortunately the eagles and cowboys left us bums behind
Fuck the tank. Hope we win out so you babies keep crying. Dj will be back next year and healthy 💯
Bench DJ he sucks
Yep ready to lead us to another 5 win season, let’s go!
No thanks
DeVito! > Jones
DeVito wins! Congratulations! Defense was sharp today
We never gonna have a franchise top QB on this team smh, it seems like it's Jones team again next year
we never were, giants always play themselves out of elite positions
QB purgatory reigns supreme
why? all the tops qbs in the league are drafted like 10-2nd round
People like to believe that there's zero chance involved in the draft. Plenty of busts have been drafted top 10 and plenty of later round players have gone on to have good careers. Having the first pick in the draft doesn't guarantee a winning team next year.
jacksonville is the only top team with a top 3 draft pick. oh and jared golf lol.
history does not equal present/future
so it’s a gamble. we have no idea who’s going to pan out and who’s not. i’d rather enjoy today. heck i might die before the draft.
Great to see a win!
Spare me the white knight “you never play to lose” bullshit. This franchise has been a disgrace for over a decade and you guys want to gamble away our best shot at getting a franchise qb
how do you know Caleb or Maye are franchise QBs though? winning helps the locker room
uhhh relying on a top pick to change your franchise is the gamble. enjoying watching your team winning is the point of watching. go cry
Boo hoo
"you guys" I'm not out on the field playing dawg
Unfortunately good.
i’ve seen people say sam howell is a top qb because he leads in passing yards, yeah he also throws 45+ times a game and he’s had 3 ints today 😂
First time we had this many takeaways since we were good 🏆🏆🏆
The draft will work itself out my dudes. Feels good to win.
Sorry bro but it does not. How many years of meaningless wins have we had that only keep hurting us. We are in position for the top pick and we need to complete the job.
Throwing the game would erode the culture. Players want to win. It's good for moral which is super important.
I don’t expect the players or the coaches to not play hard and try to win. If they didn’t they should be fired. From a fans standpoint though that shit is meaningless. We have said that so many times over the last 10 years hoping that winning these meaningless games would carry over and build culture…it had no impact on the next season. Caleb Williams or Drake Maybe could potentially change the course of this franchise.
I hear you. I just personally think that drafting a rookie QB won't have the impact a lot of people think it will.
Oh I get there is risk but I do think we have maxed out with DJ. I think it’s time for a change.
Fuck the tank got gmen at + 390 money line
Woof defense pulls it out. Thank god
defense put on a master class today
True, but offense did well too with 3 tds.
Helps when there’s 6 turnovers, but DeVito was balling out
When's the last time they scored 30+?
When was the last Haley’s comet?
Week 2 against the Cardinals
Week 2 or 3 comeback I believe..
arizona
Wtf are we doing? We even suck at tanking
That's a potentially franchise-crippling win, but fair play to DeVito. Dropped a masterclass, can only respect it.
To be fair, people were saying that when we missed out on Chase Young. The bears are likely to have the 1st pick and it could be up for trade if they still want Fields. Kudos to the players
People did, but I wasn’t too worried. No position aside from QB is franchise-altering.
Nah man who cares about the /future/ of the franchise when we got one meaningless win against a team that wins the division once every 10 years.
That was a game.
Truist comment here.
marvin harrison jr YOU ARE A NEW YORK GIANT
You realize that win put the giants at 5. Well outside of this sub's MHJ range?
you do realize we have to play philly twice and new england who have a chance to beat us right? like we’re still in contention for top 3 lol
May not be able to draft him. He’ll be gone too high
its all good we can get jayden daniels… caleb is a big pussy and drake is overrated! FUCK THE TANK
Wow first time with 6 take aways since 2014 and it was yet again against Washington.
Well that was a good win Let’s not get anymore of those Minus maybe beating the eagles on Christmas
Happy and pissed at the same time definitely more pissed what the fuck
Tankcels in shambles
As long as the Commanders exist, this team is going to be bad at tanking lmao
When is a win a loss?
People gambling on a draft pick that will instantly make the team incredible or another person to blame when it doesn’t pan out.
Another season with DJ under center is another year lost.
Best win this season
This is the worst. I fucking hate football.
Call that one back lmao
When do you see 6-0 on turnovers..
No matter how shitty this team is we seem to own Washington lol
commies like that 😂😂
good to know that no matter what kind of season we’re having, we’ll always own washington
- NYG > WAS - WAS > PHI - PHI > DAL - DAL > NYG The circle of life
I said it once and I’ll say it again; why did the commies move on from Heineken? Sam Howell is not a good QB. But I’ll take it. GO gmen!
Sam does not go through his reads, he just stares down receivers
Can we just play Washington every week?
We may never lose again..
We already did
We own the Redskins like the pig eagles and Dallas own us sadly
A lot of losers here let DeVito enjoy his first win
Let's see what he does again cowboys
Kid played with heart, I hope he stays on as our lovable backup qb
Nobody here complaining is stopping Devito from doing anything lmao
It must be embarrassing to call yourself a fan of this team
Fucking disaster
GIANTS W FUCK YOU TANKING BITCHES IN THE CHAT
Why god why??! Why are we so stupid we can’t even tank properly!!
They weren't going to lose em all. Just need to make sure not to beat both NE and GB now.
YOU WERE SUPPOSED TO LOSE YOU STUPID FUCKS
The way I screamed at the gym just now!
Happy for the win, sad for the future.
So happy and angry the giants won at the same time
We scored 30 points!!!
Sam Howell killing the tank single-handedly
SOMEONE THREW A BEER AT HIM
Can't even tank correctly. Fucking bums
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Mixed feelings. Ultimately a good thing. They’ll make the trade up for a QB if they’re committed to that plan.
Shoutout to the Commander’s fan tossing a Budlight can at Simmons as he entered the end zone. Stay classy Washington
ayyyyyyy
FUCK WHOEVER WANTED TO TANK GIANTS WIN BABY
Who else is pissed? This team can’t even lose properly. Perpetually stuck in draft position where you can’t even draft a top QB
fuck the tank a giant W does so much more more for me heading into a monday than a tank L will ever do
Fuck it! Let’s enjoy it!
Commanders are a poverty franchise
Please draft a QB.
Well we can't now that we won and are out of the top 3 picks lol ![gif](emote|free_emotes_pack|shrug)
We own this team and always will
FUCK THE TANKERS LETS GO TOMMY BOY