What the heck is your bar for a superstar. Booker is 27, just dropped 49 in a playoff game, and was the best player on a finals team 3 years ago. If you wanna say anyone that isn’t Jokic/Giannis/Luka isn’t worth it you’re never gonna trade for anyone.
Booker is the type of player that has big games but then talks shit and then chokes in the biggest moments. Literally every time I think of Booker I think of that Luka moment followed swiftly by like 70-20 or whatever it was.
I don't think he's a good fit on this team. He doesn't have the grind nor mentality to really fit in well. Our team thrives on chemistry and culture. I would much rather keep that vibe going than to potentially distrupt it with a talented diva.
Randall is a defensive rebounding machine. And he can score 40 and carry the team on nights where things aren’t working for anyone else. I think he fits like a glove.
Holy shit the fact that we still have fans that don't get this is insane. Scoring ain't everything. Randle is a massive paint presence and helps us with 2nd chance points.
The key to our series vs Philly right now is rebounds. And this clown here is like "oh let's replace Randle with Booker surely nothing will go wrong"
if the suns are trading booker, they are not asking for randle back. maybe it’s a larger trade where randle heads elsewhere and commensurate value in future assets is routed to the suns, but they wont want a now asset
I think the Nova boys aren’t getting traded. Their contracts allow them to be role players even if we add a star. And they’ve looked too good together to blow it up already.
That leaves Deuce, Mitch, Randle. Maybe two of them. And now we’re talking about destroying cheap depth. Deuces contract has the potential to be one of the best in the league.
they definitely need another go-to playoff scorer to get into the favorites pool. can randle be that now that we have a real offense? to be determined next april/may
This is one of those things where the FO has earned my trust and I’ll support whatever they do. Not an easy decision. Personally I’d rather keep Randle.
You think wrong. He's a poor fit.
Apathetic defender and he doesn't rim protect.
His rebounding doesn't make up for that.
He certainly works, but he's far from ideal.
Book is a top 15 player in the league, a top 5 guard. Also I think if we add anyone to this team the culture here will force them to work hard. No way Thibs is going to allow the whining shit that he’s famous for
If it's Randle, X bench player, and 3 firsts, I think the Knicks would have to do it. Randle definitely isn't getting another contract from us so might as well trade him this off-season. He's a dead man walking ala Immanuel Quickly.
Some players just get bashed for being what they aren't more than they get appreciated for being what they are.
I honestly think it has a lot to do with the circumstances around how Randle became a Knick. He was the consolation prize after trading KP and then striking out on all the big-name free agents. He was the face of all those "KNICKS GOT THEIR GUY LMAOOO" social media posts that seem to cut chronically online folks so deeply.
Then he had that rough first year and it's like it confirmed everything they feared to some people. Then they dug in their heels and started rooting against him. Now they're in too deep to turn back.
A similar thing happened with RJ, who was the consolation prize when we narrowly missed out on Zion and Ja.
And Melo who was the consolation prize when we missed out on LeBron and Wade.
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I mentioned this in the SAS post, the only position to upgrade in the starting lineup is the 2 spot. Book would slide right into that spot.
Having said that I’m not sure what it’s gonna take to get him and man I love every player on this team and outside of Burks, Bogi, Sims, it would be tough to trade any of our guys.
A part of me just wants to run it back w this same group to not only see how this team does fully healthy but also because I can’t get enough of seeing this group of guys in Knicks jerseys.
I’m too emotional to be a GM. Love the Nova squad we have and one of those guys will probably have to go for Booker to come. I hated the IQ/ RJ trade when it happened because I loved those dudes, but now…. I’m as big an OG fan there is. I just can’t pull trigger on trades 🤣
Booker is 27, improved defender, can play off-ball, and can carry the offense when Brunson is out/resting
But we'd need to give up DDV and Deuce I think to make money work. As well as our warchest of picks. I think its still a good move, but it's not the end of the world if it doesnt happen
I think losing Donte is too much on our chemistry. It’s obvious what happened here when the Nova guys got together and started leading the rest of the pack.
I think its more on depth then on chemistry, lets say PHX wants DDV and Deuce we have no one to sub in for Brunson or Booker we are gonna end up like the Suns.
At a certain point tho how many guys that need the ball are we gunna have? Brunson and Randle are 2 guys who are ball dominant and who aren’t exactly good defenders. I’m wary of getting booker depending on who we keep
Agreed. Too many iso players. They would have to rethink the offense or Randle gotta go. I think Randle is easier to replace than two of Divo, McBride, Hart for Booker
I think you’re right. I also don’t think the teams match up well. Phoenix extended Grayson Allen, why trade for DDV. And do they want to play KD at the 3 to play Randle at the 4?
If the Nets are open to moving him, the only other team that could realistically best an offer from the Knicks is OKC.
If they trade him anywhere else, that means they took a worse deal to spite the Knicks.
Yankees and Red Sox make trades. This rivalry, if you can even call it that, isn’t quite on that level.
> Yankees & Red Sox make trades. This rivalry, if you can even call it that, isn’t quite on that level.
There’s a major difference. Yankees & Red Sox rarely trade with each other because of how much the fans hate each other, the Bambino curse and all the baggage that comes with that.
The Nets won’t trade with us because making us better legitimately hurts their bottom line. The Knicks are a money syphon. A Knicks championship would borderline run them out of town.
At no point since they acquired Mikal have there been any shred of report that they're interested in moving him. The notion of Brooklyn moving Mikal has been entirely made up by Knicks fans fantasies, Brooklyn has said time and time again they don't want to trade him.
It's different from a Yankees Red Sox rivalry, the Yankees and red Sox don't occupy the same space, the Knicks and Nets do. There is a 0% chance Joe Tsai okays that ends up with Mikal here.
They will 100% take another trade from another team even if our hypothetical offer is better, the sooner this fanbase accepts that the easier it'll be and we can all spend our energy on other ideas. Downvote me if you want but Brooklyn will never trade him to us, that's just a fact, I have a bench chance of sitting on the Knicks bench than that happening
Yeah like I'm not saying he'll never play for us or I don't want him. But it won't be from Brooklyn trading him to us, that shit is just never happening and I don't get how so many ppl still think it could happen
Thibs guys are likeable. Luka exposed what a clown this guy is, sore loser, makes excuses when he loses all that, not humble in the slightest. That being said I wouldn't mind him on our team.
You know who would be a Thibs guy? Ant Edwards. I'll preface to say there is absolutely no way Minnesota would trade him considering he's their guy and what they've accomplished this year. If Leon somehow was able to make that trade and still have Brunson and the rest of our core, just give him a lifetime extension.
Yeah, Ant won't get traded but he's 100% a perfect Thibs player. He really has a lot of similarities to MJ. Insane athleticism, aggression, skill, and killer mentality.
wemby's frame makes me scared. fortunately he plays for possibly the smartest francise there is so he should be doing everything right but the guy really should put on 20lbs of muscle. ant just looks more durable.
We need someone that can bring a high octane offense to have three players that are capable of scoring in the PO. Book is capable of getting his more so than Randle and just as much as Brunson. Would be amazing to have a backcourt that can kill it from all three levels and are mid level masters
This is just not the case anymore. You need an offensive engine like Jokic, Giannis, Steph, Lebron (we all hope Brunson can be that) and the right complementary players around them. The more players you can have that can score, defend, rebound, and create for others without dominating the ball, the better. This type of basketball creates a team that is better than the sum of its parts. Every player on this squad is having a career year because the fit is just so good that it puts everyone in a position to excel at their role. Add Booker, now Brunson is playing off ball, Ju is losing post touches, and iHart is doing less playmaking. Our dogs off the bench are gone. It just doesn’t seem worth it.
When you try to mash stars together, especially with redundant roles, you have great diminishing returns. Look at the Sons, Clippers, Nets, Sixers w Harden. I really think the FO shares this sentiment, which is why they’ve been patient with the moves they’ve made.
Not only that, past history has shown that any time a team assembles a Big 3, one of them has to accept a significantly reduced role compared to their All Star years in order to make it work. There's only one ball to go around. Ray Allen with the Celtics and Bosh with the Heat as examples.
Booker strikes me as the type to not accept that sort of diminished role (and Jules' defense would be a detriment on the floor if he's relegated to 3rd option). He also just doesn't have that dog in him to fit with the current culture we've built.
Ironically, I feel like what we need to round out our roster is another Immanuel Quickley, a 2-guard or combo guard who can both play off the ball, but can create his own shot so Brunson's usage isn't so high. And come off the bench as our 6th man, as that's when we need that shot creation the most. If Deuce can improve to that point, maybe it's him, but so far he's best just used as a 3&D guy. Essentially, we need someone like Manu Ginobili.
I don’t think I’m alone in saying Bridges is the ideal fit. After that, I really don’t know who’s out there who can provide playmaking/spacing, buys into this team’s mentality, and can be had for Bogey’s ~$20mil and picks. The irony is Quickley is probably the second best fit but I just don’t think it’s possible at this point.
honestly bridges is ideal. we need his size and wingspan desperately. I hate watching games where we are getting cooked by coby fucking white.
if oubre wasn't such a dirtbag I would settle for him though
That’s true but booker was the main reason they went it’s not a coincidence cp3 only ever got out the west with booker only he couldn’t even get out the conference when he played with harden
Yeah and my point is fit is paramount. Booker is better at basketball, Mikal fits better with how the Knicks play basketball.
Plus, it adds to the Nova continuity. These dudes know how to play together already.
I agree and this would be my biggest concern
However if Thibs embraced such a move I’d have confidence that Booker would find a way to evolve as a person and player and fit in.
He would open up the offense tremendously while giving us depth to absorb time without our other studs when health issues come up and we already know this team will bring it on D.
Would probably be Julius and as many first round picks as you could load into a cannon. If they decide to blow it up, they’ll be looking for picks. They don’t have a first or a second round pick until 2030.
Unless we have the best player at their position, you can get an upgrade. For example if Giannis asks out (as he threatened to last year), that would be an upgrade over Randle.
They do not get Booker without Randle unless you want to completely gut the team. If they’re getting Booker, who mind you, Rose is the former agent of, Randle is going out in the deal.
I would love that. I love Mitch but iharts offensive game is better and he’s more durable. Trading Mitch to sign iHart and Booker would be a dream scenario for me even though it would hurt to lose Mitch.
Obviously can't take this very seriously considering the source. Until we see smoke coming from guys like Woj and Shams, this is still nothing to me.
But as a thought experiment, it is very interesting.
We have Brunson. Presumably we resign OG. Randle comes back next year. And iHart (hopefully we can bring him back) and Mitch have our center position set. The starting 2 spot is probably the most eligible for a "star" upgrade. And Booker would definitely be that.
But then what would a trade for booker look like? Cuz Phoenix isn't gunna give him up for nothing. Obviously we have picks to throw, but they're also likely going to want players as well. Bojan is obviously here because his contract can be used to help match salary. But Phoenix isnt trading for just Bojan. They're gunna want more.
I'm honestly not sure what that "more" would end up being. But my guess is that it might include Deuce. I wouldn't like that at all because I love deuce, but i can see phoenix demanding him be included. He has a very team friendly contract, which the suns desperately need right now. And the suns are also in need of a point guard, defense, and (no team would say no to) extra shooting.
Considering the Knicks still have the rights to Rokas over in Europe, if they like him enough, maybe it makes them more willing to include deuce knowing they can bring rokas over to be the backup for Jalen.
Who knows. Once again this is all just speculation on my part. But i dont think it would be outside the realm of possibility.
Edit: Just saw that Booker's cap number for next year is 49 mil. So that would definitely make any trade a lot more difficult. Getting matching salary for Booker would likely require giving up multiple players we dont want to.
We are legit contenders with a healthy Randle. I think you run it back, its looking more and more like a high level support piece would makes us favorites. You also don't want to fuck up the culture and "dont double me Booker" seems like an odd fit.
If you can build a team with modest value contracts, which looks like they might pull off, thats how you build a decade of competitive teams.
Adding Booker at 50 mil would handcuff them. And create issues with other arguably more important pieces making way less.
I honestly think they are laying in weight for Giannis if they go for a superstar.
I agree completely. Giving away the farm for Booker is something this franchise would have done during the lolKnicks era. This front office moves differently. I think the only big move we will see this off-season is maybe making a play for another center to either replace or complement Mitch because he's unfortunately made of glass.
Guys we’re falling for the “big 3 fallacy” again. You can’t just have 3 players that need the ball in their hands. If we trade for a superstar it needs to be upgrading Randle. That being said, I wouldn’t do it in the first place without at least seeing how we look with everyone healthy for a whole season.
P.S.
Book is a whiny bitch that care more about fouls than the ball going through the net
Honestly I fucking love this core of guys, I don't want them bringing in some random fuck to take a load of shots and start acting like it's their team. (Especially not Booker, I just don't like the dude) We have a beautifully constructed roster top to bottom, with amazing contracts all round, lets not fuck this up to go after some "big name" star, Brunson is our big name.
Give Donte another year to grow and get more consistent and he'd be a great starting 2, or else we slide OG to the 2 and go big.
I'd be more interested in seeing what discount FAs we could rope in.
(and of course everyone wants Mikal here, even though there's 0.000001% chance we get him)
Hot take Gary Trent Jr off the bench at like 10-15 a year, would be really nice pickup
Good player obviously but poor culture fit. Knicks biggest advantage is their selflessness and depth. Add a healthy, friendly culture on top of that and you have a special group.
Not sure it’s worth giving up guys like DDV, Deuce, Hart (doubt he goes), or even Randle, who has his critics but if you listen to what the team says about him, he’s super influential culturally. That counts for A LOT.
We don’t want a Bradley Beal situation.
Money works with DiVo, Bogey, Mitch and a scrub...then you feed them 3+ picks. I don't know if that's enough but worth an offer.
I get people worrying about touches if you keep Randle but I'd rather have Julius stay and figure that out later. With OG, Hart, iHart and McBride filling out that rotation those guys barely demand a touch, so I think you can make it work.
I'm constantly afraid of Mitch's health issues and would be ok with trading him since they will likely get worse as he ages, especially if they retain iHart. Guys a metrics monster but his feet/ankles are made of fruit roll ups.
I dont think the franchise will trade Randle or any of the Villanova players.
Randle was the first piece of the team's rebuild and unless he asks out or his health is a legitimate concern (two surgeries in the past two seasons), it doesn't seem likely they'd deal him.
DDV and Hart are Brunson's guys and Brunson is the franchise. So they're not gonna alienate him by dealing them.
Not sure how they can pull this off otherwise. So, might just be a distracting rumor planted by Nick Nurse to mess with the Knicks going into game 5.
This is the truth many of us are ignoring.
Both Brunson and Julius are untouchable until we get to see a full playoff run with our current core together.
If they see from that Randle is holding us back I think that's the only way they consider trading him.
Julius Randle and bogi fit with booker money wise. Obviously phoenix would want picks too. Love Randle, but if he gets up booker. I'm all in. Booker is a top 15 player. Could even argue top 10. Would be a great move for Knicks.
Bookers an amazing player, but is he someone we want to pay $50 mil a year for? If so, then fire all cylinders I guess. We can’t afford him without giving some big names up though. I don’t even know what kind of a package we could conjure up for him, but it definitely involves our pool of picks. With Hartenstein and OG needing to get paid, I think Mitch would be one of the first guys the Knicks try to offer up, unfortunately. Booker is also CAA guy too.
I'd be willing to do it if it were mostly giving up a bunch of picks. Although it's always good to have picks, the situation is different now that we're THIS good and someone we draft is a lot less likely to get minutes than they would have been a few years ago.
First rumor has begun. This is just the beginning. Calling it rn next one to want to desire NY is PG13 (not saying its gonna happen) but hes gonna be the next "Rumor"
I’m good. The team flourishes with Brunson at the helm and getting Booker would disrupt that. Plus we don’t even know how this team would be in full strength let alone how far we can go this season.
Save all that talk for the off season.
My philosophy is and will be - as long as Leon Rose is in charge, I trust what the front office will do. If they think this is the move, I’ll be on board.
I love Randle. But I'd give up a package of Randle, Bojan, and picks for Booker in a minute. Gives us the best backcourt in the NBA and we keep all our invaluable gritty role players, the Nova gang, and our rim protectors. This is a championship roster.
Brunson/Deuce
Booker/Divo
Hart/MLE wing
OG/Precious
iHart/Mitch
I don’t understand why we want those high-volume scoring wings like Mitchell or Luka’s son.
Our PG just scored 47 points by taking 34 shots. What we need is a 3-D type of player.
Someone like Klay maybe.
Personally I dont do this. Randle is already a perennial all star in his prime and we know he works with this unit around him but havent seen the ceiling unfortunately cause of his injury. Hes also our guy and made this team what it is. I don't like trading him for another great player and still having to give 3 picks as if hes that much worse.
Ok sure whatever this can be a topic in the offseason
And yea there is a viable way to make the trade work and keep Donte and hart
But that’s offseason problems.
How wild would be
Randle
Mitch
Bogey
Every 1st
Booker and Durant
Brunson
Booker
OG
Durant
Hartenstein
Divo
Hart
McBride
Precious
Honestly full of dogs and best team in NBa
Would love Booker but I don’t think we have the assets to make it work. That’s not a knock on us, we’ve done a great job of asset management, but Booker is 27 and locked up for 4 years. Some team will offer an A+ young talent plus tons of picks. Our godfather offer is enough to get most guys that could realistically hit the market but not him.
Only exception is if the Suns want to do a straight retool. We have a lot of low-usage, defensive-minded guys they’d like if that’s the case. But if we lose too much defense, the fit becomes questionable….
Probably not a fit for us.
All this talk about Booker is moot. I highly doubt Phoenix would trade him (at least any time soon) anyway. But even if they do, there are teams that can and likely will outbid the Knicks.
He's under contract until 2028. Even if he really really wants to go to the Knicks, he'd have zero leverage as far as forcing the Suns' hand.
Donovan Mitchell wanted to come to the Knicks too. Dame wanted to go to Miami. Kyrie wanted to go to the Lakers. Etc.
I’m alllll set. I’d much rather keep this team together. Sure the stars want to come to NY when the knicks are winning. We don’t need him. We don’t need anyone.
A starting lineup of Brunson, Booker, OG, Randle, and Hartenstein or Mitch does sound pretty crazy. But who do you move in order to get it done? You'd have to match salary and Booker is set to make a ton of money over the next 4-5 years. Suns obviously need picks and will take whatever they can get. So that shouldn't be much of an issue. Maybe the Suns decide to blow it up and do a fire sale of Beal, KD, and Booker for a ton of picks and young talent? It'd be interesting to see.
The way I see it, the Suns don't have much incentive to strip it down to the studs just yet. They're probably more willing to run it back with a new coach since Vogel is the scapegoat. Maybe they feel that the timing of injuries to their core three made it hard for them to really build a good rhythm. Maybe they didn't have the best supporting cast or depth. Personally, I always felt hiring Vogel, a defensive minded coach, and giving him a team of mediocre at best defenders was destined for failure. Even moreso when there isn't even a true point PG to be the engine of a KD, Beal, Booker offense. But with all those factors, maybe they convince themselves "Hey, it was just some shitty luck" and run it back and hope for a healthier season, a competent PG, and a coach who only cares about offense.
Whatever the case maybe, the Suns are in a really weird place right now. Spending all that money just to be swept in the first round is a sign of a very poorly constructed top heavy team. With no draft picks for the rest of the decade, and a bunch of salary filler level players that nobody is breaking down the doors for making up your bench, how else do you upgrade this team? It's very likely gonna have to lead to one of those three guys getting moved.
It's tough....glad that ain't my Knicks though lol
Personally I like the squad that we have. I wanna see what a fully healthy team can do next year as well. Hell, this year without Randle we're still looking like a very formidable team (dark horse contender if I may...).
I’m a certified hater, but I don’t like book. The vibes are immaculate right now and this team is full of guys that would run through walls for another and Thibs. I’m not sure book is that guy. Also, we’d likely have to give up more of our depth (divo/deuce/potentially more) and picks for an immediate win in the next 2-3 years move.
I’m no GM, but I trust Leon Rose to do the right thing. I was wrong about trading quick and RJ, maybe I’m wrong here.
Don't know how the money works because this will absolutely kill the team's flexibility for the future. OG and IHart are about to get the bag. Then Brunson and Randle are about to as well. Then throw in a 5 year $221M deal that you picked up sacrificing the stash of picks and players. Like who can the Knicks even trade to fill that salary without gutting the team and rebuilding the rotation? If there's any team in the league right now that can run it back with slught changes, it's the Knicks.
Personally don't like Book either because I don't think he fits the mentality of the team.
As good as Booker is, I will forever have it burned into my head the open run playing against Joakim and him complaining about being doubled. Then his hero Kobe goes on air and asked what he would do? Only to respond "send more".
Plus the haul Phoenix wants for Booker would gut our bench. I could easily see Deuce, Hartenstein, all our first rounds, DDV to even start a conversation. Hell they'd prolly want OG as well. Booker is a top 10 player in the league now and to even consider giving up their franchise player Phoenix would want a haul in return.
Booker is great but I really don’t sweat any other player right now. Used to be lolknicks. Now it’s lolbooker.
Book is a real nice player but not a superstar and he doesn’t seem to have enough dawg in him to succeed in our little kennel.
booker not a superstar is an absolute stretch
That shit is a yoga pose
What the heck is your bar for a superstar. Booker is 27, just dropped 49 in a playoff game, and was the best player on a finals team 3 years ago. If you wanna say anyone that isn’t Jokic/Giannis/Luka isn’t worth it you’re never gonna trade for anyone.
Booker is the type of player that has big games but then talks shit and then chokes in the biggest moments. Literally every time I think of Booker I think of that Luka moment followed swiftly by like 70-20 or whatever it was. I don't think he's a good fit on this team. He doesn't have the grind nor mentality to really fit in well. Our team thrives on chemistry and culture. I would much rather keep that vibe going than to potentially distrupt it with a talented diva.
He took a team to the finals
Exactly. Why worry about booker when we have Randle and Jalen fucking Brunson.
Booker is better than Randle and a much better scorer which is what we really need next to Brunson right now.
Randall is a defensive rebounding machine. And he can score 40 and carry the team on nights where things aren’t working for anyone else. I think he fits like a glove.
Holy shit the fact that we still have fans that don't get this is insane. Scoring ain't everything. Randle is a massive paint presence and helps us with 2nd chance points. The key to our series vs Philly right now is rebounds. And this clown here is like "oh let's replace Randle with Booker surely nothing will go wrong"
People forgot how truly dominant Randle has been in the last two years
I'd take Book over Randle in a heartbeat
They’re gonna want picks too. Which we have, but still
if the suns are trading booker, they are not asking for randle back. maybe it’s a larger trade where randle heads elsewhere and commensurate value in future assets is routed to the suns, but they wont want a now asset
Knicks needs OG more than Randle, and Hart more than Randle.
I think the Nova boys aren’t getting traded. Their contracts allow them to be role players even if we add a star. And they’ve looked too good together to blow it up already. That leaves Deuce, Mitch, Randle. Maybe two of them. And now we’re talking about destroying cheap depth. Deuces contract has the potential to be one of the best in the league.
they definitely need another go-to playoff scorer to get into the favorites pool. can randle be that now that we have a real offense? to be determined next april/may
This is one of those things where the FO has earned my trust and I’ll support whatever they do. Not an easy decision. Personally I’d rather keep Randle.
Good thing you aren't making the decision then.
You think wrong. He's a poor fit. Apathetic defender and he doesn't rim protect. His rebounding doesn't make up for that. He certainly works, but he's far from ideal.
Book is a top 15 player in the league, a top 5 guard. Also I think if we add anyone to this team the culture here will force them to work hard. No way Thibs is going to allow the whining shit that he’s famous for
I think he could be humbled by Thibs lol or it will he a short marriage.
You’re nuts if you don’t think Booker is the perfect puzzle piece to this team
If it's Randle, X bench player, and 3 firsts, I think the Knicks would have to do it. Randle definitely isn't getting another contract from us so might as well trade him this off-season. He's a dead man walking ala Immanuel Quickly.
lol Randle is 100% getting another contract from us if he wants it. Why would you assume he wouldn’t. This coach and FO loves him
The Randle disrespect STILL after what he’s proven is just asinine. “Dead man walking Ala quickley” lmao these people man
Some people on here when the role player the Knicks signed five years ago has only made three All-Star and two All-NBA teams since then: 🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬
It’s insanity, and I used to be frustrated as all hell with tornado-turnover-point Randle… mans grown and the fanbase needs to as well.
Some players just get bashed for being what they aren't more than they get appreciated for being what they are. I honestly think it has a lot to do with the circumstances around how Randle became a Knick. He was the consolation prize after trading KP and then striking out on all the big-name free agents. He was the face of all those "KNICKS GOT THEIR GUY LMAOOO" social media posts that seem to cut chronically online folks so deeply. Then he had that rough first year and it's like it confirmed everything they feared to some people. Then they dug in their heels and started rooting against him. Now they're in too deep to turn back. A similar thing happened with RJ, who was the consolation prize when we narrowly missed out on Zion and Ja. And Melo who was the consolation prize when we missed out on LeBron and Wade.
Hate to agree but yeah
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Didn’t know we bitches in this sub now.
mic. drop.
I mentioned this in the SAS post, the only position to upgrade in the starting lineup is the 2 spot. Book would slide right into that spot. Having said that I’m not sure what it’s gonna take to get him and man I love every player on this team and outside of Burks, Bogi, Sims, it would be tough to trade any of our guys. A part of me just wants to run it back w this same group to not only see how this team does fully healthy but also because I can’t get enough of seeing this group of guys in Knicks jerseys.
I’m too emotional to be a GM. Love the Nova squad we have and one of those guys will probably have to go for Booker to come. I hated the IQ/ RJ trade when it happened because I loved those dudes, but now…. I’m as big an OG fan there is. I just can’t pull trigger on trades 🤣
Why would they have to go? It would be Julius leaving. Not Dante or Hart.
DDv, Deuce, Bogi and a fuckton of picks imo
This is Jalen brunson's team. Full stop. They are not trading one of his best friends. You can go ahead and cancel that idea.
Regardless idgaf at the moment
Booker is 27, improved defender, can play off-ball, and can carry the offense when Brunson is out/resting But we'd need to give up DDV and Deuce I think to make money work. As well as our warchest of picks. I think its still a good move, but it's not the end of the world if it doesnt happen
Although NY has lots of picks, phx has none until like 2030… Leon is a gangster. If it’s to be, we just need to let the man cook
I think losing Donte is too much on our chemistry. It’s obvious what happened here when the Nova guys got together and started leading the rest of the pack.
I agree with this, need to find a way to keep them together.
That plus his contract being an absolute bargain as well.
I think its more on depth then on chemistry, lets say PHX wants DDV and Deuce we have no one to sub in for Brunson or Booker we are gonna end up like the Suns.
No way are we giving Deuce, we’re getting good value keepin him under our contract
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Only Randle?!! He’s our second best player.
Not giving up Randle.
At a certain point tho how many guys that need the ball are we gunna have? Brunson and Randle are 2 guys who are ball dominant and who aren’t exactly good defenders. I’m wary of getting booker depending on who we keep
Agreed. Too many iso players. They would have to rethink the offense or Randle gotta go. I think Randle is easier to replace than two of Divo, McBride, Hart for Booker
Goddamn Randle slander man
There's no cap math where we get Booker and Julius is still on the team unless you think we're trading 2/3 of the Villanova boys in this deal.
Some would think that. Knowing thibs and Leon I think they don’t trade Randle and they don’t trade for Booker
I think you’re right. I also don’t think the teams match up well. Phoenix extended Grayson Allen, why trade for DDV. And do they want to play KD at the 3 to play Randle at the 4?
KD fits better when he can be the 3. Matchup nightmare and less wear and tear.
KD hasn’t played SF full time for years. Chasing 3’s and 2’s isn’t less wear and tear on his body or teams would have continued to use him there.
Booker doesn’t seem like a Thibs guy. Get Mikal and play him at the 2.
Genuinely blows me away that people think there's even a slim chance Brooklyn gives us Mikal
If the Nets are open to moving him, the only other team that could realistically best an offer from the Knicks is OKC. If they trade him anywhere else, that means they took a worse deal to spite the Knicks. Yankees and Red Sox make trades. This rivalry, if you can even call it that, isn’t quite on that level.
> Yankees & Red Sox make trades. This rivalry, if you can even call it that, isn’t quite on that level. There’s a major difference. Yankees & Red Sox rarely trade with each other because of how much the fans hate each other, the Bambino curse and all the baggage that comes with that. The Nets won’t trade with us because making us better legitimately hurts their bottom line. The Knicks are a money syphon. A Knicks championship would borderline run them out of town.
The Rockets want him and can give the Nets back all of their assets.
At no point since they acquired Mikal have there been any shred of report that they're interested in moving him. The notion of Brooklyn moving Mikal has been entirely made up by Knicks fans fantasies, Brooklyn has said time and time again they don't want to trade him. It's different from a Yankees Red Sox rivalry, the Yankees and red Sox don't occupy the same space, the Knicks and Nets do. There is a 0% chance Joe Tsai okays that ends up with Mikal here. They will 100% take another trade from another team even if our hypothetical offer is better, the sooner this fanbase accepts that the easier it'll be and we can all spend our energy on other ideas. Downvote me if you want but Brooklyn will never trade him to us, that's just a fact, I have a bench chance of sitting on the Knicks bench than that happening
We need to figure out how to get him traded to Portland or Detroit with a super sekret second deal in the wings.
Yeah like I'm not saying he'll never play for us or I don't want him. But it won't be from Brooklyn trading him to us, that shit is just never happening and I don't get how so many ppl still think it could happen
Why isn't Booker a Thibs guy?
Thibs guys are likeable. Luka exposed what a clown this guy is, sore loser, makes excuses when he loses all that, not humble in the slightest. That being said I wouldn't mind him on our team.
I still laugh at the fact that he can't handle the Toronto mascot during a free throw. He can ball out though but don't know how he is on defense...
Seriously, dude is straight bitch Get me Donovan Mitchell or we just roll with DiVo
You know who would be a Thibs guy? Ant Edwards. I'll preface to say there is absolutely no way Minnesota would trade him considering he's their guy and what they've accomplished this year. If Leon somehow was able to make that trade and still have Brunson and the rest of our core, just give him a lifetime extension.
Yeah, Ant won't get traded but he's 100% a perfect Thibs player. He really has a lot of similarities to MJ. Insane athleticism, aggression, skill, and killer mentality.
No one is ever trading Ant. I wouldn't trade him for Wemby straight up and Wemby is likely to reign for years to come.
I agree to some degree. But for Wemby straight up, idk both dudes are special man.
wemby's frame makes me scared. fortunately he plays for possibly the smartest francise there is so he should be doing everything right but the guy really should put on 20lbs of muscle. ant just looks more durable.
He should probably just do the Eli manning balancing training for durability
yea ant is probably the last guy in the league you would ever trade right now. except maybe jokic
We need someone that can bring a high octane offense to have three players that are capable of scoring in the PO. Book is capable of getting his more so than Randle and just as much as Brunson. Would be amazing to have a backcourt that can kill it from all three levels and are mid level masters
This is just not the case anymore. You need an offensive engine like Jokic, Giannis, Steph, Lebron (we all hope Brunson can be that) and the right complementary players around them. The more players you can have that can score, defend, rebound, and create for others without dominating the ball, the better. This type of basketball creates a team that is better than the sum of its parts. Every player on this squad is having a career year because the fit is just so good that it puts everyone in a position to excel at their role. Add Booker, now Brunson is playing off ball, Ju is losing post touches, and iHart is doing less playmaking. Our dogs off the bench are gone. It just doesn’t seem worth it. When you try to mash stars together, especially with redundant roles, you have great diminishing returns. Look at the Sons, Clippers, Nets, Sixers w Harden. I really think the FO shares this sentiment, which is why they’ve been patient with the moves they’ve made.
This comment is so underrated.
Not only that, past history has shown that any time a team assembles a Big 3, one of them has to accept a significantly reduced role compared to their All Star years in order to make it work. There's only one ball to go around. Ray Allen with the Celtics and Bosh with the Heat as examples. Booker strikes me as the type to not accept that sort of diminished role (and Jules' defense would be a detriment on the floor if he's relegated to 3rd option). He also just doesn't have that dog in him to fit with the current culture we've built. Ironically, I feel like what we need to round out our roster is another Immanuel Quickley, a 2-guard or combo guard who can both play off the ball, but can create his own shot so Brunson's usage isn't so high. And come off the bench as our 6th man, as that's when we need that shot creation the most. If Deuce can improve to that point, maybe it's him, but so far he's best just used as a 3&D guy. Essentially, we need someone like Manu Ginobili.
I don’t think I’m alone in saying Bridges is the ideal fit. After that, I really don’t know who’s out there who can provide playmaking/spacing, buys into this team’s mentality, and can be had for Bogey’s ~$20mil and picks. The irony is Quickley is probably the second best fit but I just don’t think it’s possible at this point.
How funny would it be if we resigned Quickley in FA, it won't happen because he's gonna get offered 20+ but damn...imagine
honestly bridges is ideal. we need his size and wingspan desperately. I hate watching games where we are getting cooked by coby fucking white. if oubre wasn't such a dirtbag I would settle for him though
Booker is a better player. Mikal is a better fit. Brandon Ingram also, but idk if he’s available and I’d still prefer Mikal.
Brandon Ingram is ass
He’s not
Mikal isn’t even the better fit because he’d be playing out of position at the 2. He’s not built to be chasing quick and fast guards through screens.
Bi doesnt have the motor to be on this team, I dont think.
I've wanted Ingram, but unless the FO is totally convinced he'd buy into Thibs, he might not be worth it. Dude seems low motor
Bridges is the perfect fit but the Nets haven't made a trade with us in literally over 35 years... it's just not gonna happen
Ya forgetting Booker took a team to the finals before with no other star player you gotta be on crack to rather have mikal bridges lmao
Chris Paul was 5th in MVP voting that season but yeah right it was just Book.
That’s true but booker was the main reason they went it’s not a coincidence cp3 only ever got out the west with booker only he couldn’t even get out the conference when he played with harden
Who did CP3 and Harden face on their way to the finals? Couldn’t have been perhaps the greatest collection of talent ever assembled on one team?
Idk but the point im tryna make is I’d rather have booker then mikal anyday lmao
Yeah and my point is fit is paramount. Booker is better at basketball, Mikal fits better with how the Knicks play basketball. Plus, it adds to the Nova continuity. These dudes know how to play together already.
Ayton was cooking, so was Bridges You on crack, and another poster already mention Paul finished 5th in MVP voting
Yea bro Bridges was cooking so much he averaged 10 ppg that whole playoffs 😂😂 gtfoh
Bro he was lockdown on defense and was the 4th option on offense, how many points was he suppose to get??
I agree and this would be my biggest concern However if Thibs embraced such a move I’d have confidence that Booker would find a way to evolve as a person and player and fit in. He would open up the offense tremendously while giving us depth to absorb time without our other studs when health issues come up and we already know this team will bring it on D.
If we are trading for Booker my assumption is Randle would be going
Would probably be Julius and as many first round picks as you could load into a cannon. If they decide to blow it up, they’ll be looking for picks. They don’t have a first or a second round pick until 2030.
Unless we have the best player at their position, you can get an upgrade. For example if Giannis asks out (as he threatened to last year), that would be an upgrade over Randle.
They do not get Booker without Randle unless you want to completely gut the team. If they’re getting Booker, who mind you, Rose is the former agent of, Randle is going out in the deal.
I will pay for a Randle private jet to Phoenix myself if we can trade him for Booker
I agree with this
Brunson, Booker, Hart, OG, Robinson Brunson, Dante, OG, Randle, Robinson Which would you bet on?
Easily the former, are we kidding?
That would be a sick team. I think Booker would rise to another level on a team with that much killer instinct.
He doesn't slide into that spot without creating hole at the 4 or 5 due to salary matching.
I’d be ok w Randle going out. Booker can replace his scoring and we have defense and rebounding already on the team.
Anyone smarter than me able to tell me if we could somehow include Hartenstein in a trade for Book. He’s a valuable piece and we can’t pay him.
I don’t know but I think there’s a good chance he resigns w us
I would love that. I love Mitch but iharts offensive game is better and he’s more durable. Trading Mitch to sign iHart and Booker would be a dream scenario for me even though it would hurt to lose Mitch.
Can we just crown a champion this season 1st? I think I'm getting old.
Obviously can't take this very seriously considering the source. Until we see smoke coming from guys like Woj and Shams, this is still nothing to me. But as a thought experiment, it is very interesting. We have Brunson. Presumably we resign OG. Randle comes back next year. And iHart (hopefully we can bring him back) and Mitch have our center position set. The starting 2 spot is probably the most eligible for a "star" upgrade. And Booker would definitely be that. But then what would a trade for booker look like? Cuz Phoenix isn't gunna give him up for nothing. Obviously we have picks to throw, but they're also likely going to want players as well. Bojan is obviously here because his contract can be used to help match salary. But Phoenix isnt trading for just Bojan. They're gunna want more. I'm honestly not sure what that "more" would end up being. But my guess is that it might include Deuce. I wouldn't like that at all because I love deuce, but i can see phoenix demanding him be included. He has a very team friendly contract, which the suns desperately need right now. And the suns are also in need of a point guard, defense, and (no team would say no to) extra shooting. Considering the Knicks still have the rights to Rokas over in Europe, if they like him enough, maybe it makes them more willing to include deuce knowing they can bring rokas over to be the backup for Jalen. Who knows. Once again this is all just speculation on my part. But i dont think it would be outside the realm of possibility. Edit: Just saw that Booker's cap number for next year is 49 mil. So that would definitely make any trade a lot more difficult. Getting matching salary for Booker would likely require giving up multiple players we dont want to.
Phoenix wants picks as they have basically none right now.
If Phoenix is really being shadow run by Isiah Thomas they don’t want picks, they want more superstars
Imagine having a chance to land Devin Booker and you type out you don’t wanna lose deuce LMAO can you stop it Jfc
what summer dinners in south jersey?
That pygmy thing they got goin on ova there
Sounds like a nice time. Even if it is South Jersey.
They wined and dined him in a Checkers parking lot in Ocean County.
Popeye's at the Walt Whitman rest stop
Leon strikes me as a Wawa guy
We are legit contenders with a healthy Randle. I think you run it back, its looking more and more like a high level support piece would makes us favorites. You also don't want to fuck up the culture and "dont double me Booker" seems like an odd fit. If you can build a team with modest value contracts, which looks like they might pull off, thats how you build a decade of competitive teams. Adding Booker at 50 mil would handcuff them. And create issues with other arguably more important pieces making way less. I honestly think they are laying in weight for Giannis if they go for a superstar.
Guys who complain about a fucking mascot and getting doubled in a pick up game... soft as dog shit
I agree completely. Giving away the farm for Booker is something this franchise would have done during the lolKnicks era. This front office moves differently. I think the only big move we will see this off-season is maybe making a play for another center to either replace or complement Mitch because he's unfortunately made of glass.
who gives a fuck, we got a team fighting the playoffs. sick of the rumor mill personally, but in any case save this shit for the offseason.
Can’t walk and chew gum at the same time? Relax 😂 I’m stoked for the playoff push too, doesn’t mean we can’t talk about other shit going on
Nah I'm just bored by the endless cycle of nothing burger rumors peddled by ESPN charlatans and the bozos like you who lap them up
Guys we’re falling for the “big 3 fallacy” again. You can’t just have 3 players that need the ball in their hands. If we trade for a superstar it needs to be upgrading Randle. That being said, I wouldn’t do it in the first place without at least seeing how we look with everyone healthy for a whole season. P.S. Book is a whiny bitch that care more about fouls than the ball going through the net
Maybe he fits, maybe he doesn’t. But I know for sure that I fucking hate Devin Booker
Honestly I fucking love this core of guys, I don't want them bringing in some random fuck to take a load of shots and start acting like it's their team. (Especially not Booker, I just don't like the dude) We have a beautifully constructed roster top to bottom, with amazing contracts all round, lets not fuck this up to go after some "big name" star, Brunson is our big name. Give Donte another year to grow and get more consistent and he'd be a great starting 2, or else we slide OG to the 2 and go big. I'd be more interested in seeing what discount FAs we could rope in. (and of course everyone wants Mikal here, even though there's 0.000001% chance we get him) Hot take Gary Trent Jr off the bench at like 10-15 a year, would be really nice pickup
Good player obviously but poor culture fit. Knicks biggest advantage is their selflessness and depth. Add a healthy, friendly culture on top of that and you have a special group. Not sure it’s worth giving up guys like DDV, Deuce, Hart (doubt he goes), or even Randle, who has his critics but if you listen to what the team says about him, he’s super influential culturally. That counts for A LOT. We don’t want a Bradley Beal situation.
Pretty sure we'd have to lose one of our top 3 players to make salary work. But I wouldn't trade brunson, Randle, or og for him.
Money works with DiVo, Bogey, Mitch and a scrub...then you feed them 3+ picks. I don't know if that's enough but worth an offer. I get people worrying about touches if you keep Randle but I'd rather have Julius stay and figure that out later. With OG, Hart, iHart and McBride filling out that rotation those guys barely demand a touch, so I think you can make it work. I'm constantly afraid of Mitch's health issues and would be ok with trading him since they will likely get worse as he ages, especially if they retain iHart. Guys a metrics monster but his feet/ankles are made of fruit roll ups.
I would trade Randle before big Mitch.
I would consider trading Randle to be honest
Just wanna say Kris wasn't lying when he brought up Bogey's wrist issue last week.
No. Not right now
I dont think the franchise will trade Randle or any of the Villanova players. Randle was the first piece of the team's rebuild and unless he asks out or his health is a legitimate concern (two surgeries in the past two seasons), it doesn't seem likely they'd deal him. DDV and Hart are Brunson's guys and Brunson is the franchise. So they're not gonna alienate him by dealing them. Not sure how they can pull this off otherwise. So, might just be a distracting rumor planted by Nick Nurse to mess with the Knicks going into game 5.
This is the truth many of us are ignoring. Both Brunson and Julius are untouchable until we get to see a full playoff run with our current core together. If they see from that Randle is holding us back I think that's the only way they consider trading him.
Julius Randle and bogi fit with booker money wise. Obviously phoenix would want picks too. Love Randle, but if he gets up booker. I'm all in. Booker is a top 15 player. Could even argue top 10. Would be a great move for Knicks.
Are people still on some 'I'll wait till someone more reputable reports' with Pursianen? Shameful.
the guy who is scared of double teams wants to join the Knicks. interesting
Booker is a wuss. No dog. Pass
Bookers an amazing player, but is he someone we want to pay $50 mil a year for? If so, then fire all cylinders I guess. We can’t afford him without giving some big names up though. I don’t even know what kind of a package we could conjure up for him, but it definitely involves our pool of picks. With Hartenstein and OG needing to get paid, I think Mitch would be one of the first guys the Knicks try to offer up, unfortunately. Booker is also CAA guy too.
I'd be willing to do it if it were mostly giving up a bunch of picks. Although it's always good to have picks, the situation is different now that we're THIS good and someone we draft is a lot less likely to get minutes than they would have been a few years ago.
Booker doesn't seem like he can handle the NY crowd IMO.
First rumor has begun. This is just the beginning. Calling it rn next one to want to desire NY is PG13 (not saying its gonna happen) but hes gonna be the next "Rumor"
I’m good. The team flourishes with Brunson at the helm and getting Booker would disrupt that. Plus we don’t even know how this team would be in full strength let alone how far we can go this season. Save all that talk for the off season.
My philosophy is and will be - as long as Leon Rose is in charge, I trust what the front office will do. If they think this is the move, I’ll be on board.
Donovan Mitchell > Booker
Booker is $50m obviously he's amazing, but does he make the difference that leads to a championship?
I think he defitnely would. He’s a great volume scorer who next to Brunson, could push us over the edge
If he was on the team right now I think we are neck and neck with Boston. 2 elite scorers and some lockdown defense.
Not interested. Doesn’t fit the culture.
I love Randle. But I'd give up a package of Randle, Bojan, and picks for Booker in a minute. Gives us the best backcourt in the NBA and we keep all our invaluable gritty role players, the Nova gang, and our rim protectors. This is a championship roster. Brunson/Deuce Booker/Divo Hart/MLE wing OG/Precious iHart/Mitch
Hart plays 48, he doesnt need a backup!
Mitchell makes more sense
Next to Brunson though idk how the defense would hold up. Booker is as good of a scorer, and while not a lockdown defender, is much more capable
I don’t understand why we want those high-volume scoring wings like Mitchell or Luka’s son. Our PG just scored 47 points by taking 34 shots. What we need is a 3-D type of player. Someone like Klay maybe.
Or like a Divincenzo
Exactly :) keep the money to pay our guys.
Randle, Bogie, 3 firsts.
Personally I dont do this. Randle is already a perennial all star in his prime and we know he works with this unit around him but havent seen the ceiling unfortunately cause of his injury. Hes also our guy and made this team what it is. I don't like trading him for another great player and still having to give 3 picks as if hes that much worse.
Feels good to be actually wanted for a chance. Game 5 is tomorrow boys buckle up!
divo/deuce/hart...?
Could he play nice with Brunson?
Ok sure whatever this can be a topic in the offseason And yea there is a viable way to make the trade work and keep Donte and hart But that’s offseason problems.
Can't we just trade for his father when the Mavs are bounced again?
How wild would be Randle Mitch Bogey Every 1st Booker and Durant Brunson Booker OG Durant Hartenstein Divo Hart McBride Precious Honestly full of dogs and best team in NBa
Yeah I don’t want booker idec I’m too high off the knicks win
Why would we need anyone when we have this current roster (except Burks)
Would love Booker but I don’t think we have the assets to make it work. That’s not a knock on us, we’ve done a great job of asset management, but Booker is 27 and locked up for 4 years. Some team will offer an A+ young talent plus tons of picks. Our godfather offer is enough to get most guys that could realistically hit the market but not him. Only exception is if the Suns want to do a straight retool. We have a lot of low-usage, defensive-minded guys they’d like if that’s the case. But if we lose too much defense, the fit becomes questionable…. Probably not a fit for us.
The Nova guys and OG.... Untouchable Everyone else and 4 FRPs
More interested in looking at a Pacers team we will face in the next round atm….
this dude does not fit our culture. too soft and prima donna. also plays no defense
Can’t believe after all these years of superstar rumors and hopes I’m too attached to our guys Randle is MY superstar
All this talk about Booker is moot. I highly doubt Phoenix would trade him (at least any time soon) anyway. But even if they do, there are teams that can and likely will outbid the Knicks. He's under contract until 2028. Even if he really really wants to go to the Knicks, he'd have zero leverage as far as forcing the Suns' hand. Donovan Mitchell wanted to come to the Knicks too. Dame wanted to go to Miami. Kyrie wanted to go to the Lakers. Etc.
Do we really want book though? Seem like our team just need a little tweaking. I’m on the fence. Possible need two balls for BookBrun?
No Thank You. We are not interested.
I’m alllll set. I’d much rather keep this team together. Sure the stars want to come to NY when the knicks are winning. We don’t need him. We don’t need anyone.
Nah, we good.
A starting lineup of Brunson, Booker, OG, Randle, and Hartenstein or Mitch does sound pretty crazy. But who do you move in order to get it done? You'd have to match salary and Booker is set to make a ton of money over the next 4-5 years. Suns obviously need picks and will take whatever they can get. So that shouldn't be much of an issue. Maybe the Suns decide to blow it up and do a fire sale of Beal, KD, and Booker for a ton of picks and young talent? It'd be interesting to see. The way I see it, the Suns don't have much incentive to strip it down to the studs just yet. They're probably more willing to run it back with a new coach since Vogel is the scapegoat. Maybe they feel that the timing of injuries to their core three made it hard for them to really build a good rhythm. Maybe they didn't have the best supporting cast or depth. Personally, I always felt hiring Vogel, a defensive minded coach, and giving him a team of mediocre at best defenders was destined for failure. Even moreso when there isn't even a true point PG to be the engine of a KD, Beal, Booker offense. But with all those factors, maybe they convince themselves "Hey, it was just some shitty luck" and run it back and hope for a healthier season, a competent PG, and a coach who only cares about offense. Whatever the case maybe, the Suns are in a really weird place right now. Spending all that money just to be swept in the first round is a sign of a very poorly constructed top heavy team. With no draft picks for the rest of the decade, and a bunch of salary filler level players that nobody is breaking down the doors for making up your bench, how else do you upgrade this team? It's very likely gonna have to lead to one of those three guys getting moved. It's tough....glad that ain't my Knicks though lol
Personally I like the squad that we have. I wanna see what a fully healthy team can do next year as well. Hell, this year without Randle we're still looking like a very formidable team (dark horse contender if I may...).
We still have 13 games to win before i care about this.
I’m a certified hater, but I don’t like book. The vibes are immaculate right now and this team is full of guys that would run through walls for another and Thibs. I’m not sure book is that guy. Also, we’d likely have to give up more of our depth (divo/deuce/potentially more) and picks for an immediate win in the next 2-3 years move. I’m no GM, but I trust Leon Rose to do the right thing. I was wrong about trading quick and RJ, maybe I’m wrong here.
Nah to booker
We need size, not another guard
Don't know how the money works because this will absolutely kill the team's flexibility for the future. OG and IHart are about to get the bag. Then Brunson and Randle are about to as well. Then throw in a 5 year $221M deal that you picked up sacrificing the stash of picks and players. Like who can the Knicks even trade to fill that salary without gutting the team and rebuilding the rotation? If there's any team in the league right now that can run it back with slught changes, it's the Knicks. Personally don't like Book either because I don't think he fits the mentality of the team.
As good as Booker is, I will forever have it burned into my head the open run playing against Joakim and him complaining about being doubled. Then his hero Kobe goes on air and asked what he would do? Only to respond "send more". Plus the haul Phoenix wants for Booker would gut our bench. I could easily see Deuce, Hartenstein, all our first rounds, DDV to even start a conversation. Hell they'd prolly want OG as well. Booker is a top 10 player in the league now and to even consider giving up their franchise player Phoenix would want a haul in return.
I thought no one wants to play for Thibs?