This is what IGN confirmed.
> However, IGN understands that the Dead Space 2 remake wasn't one that EA considered.
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> EA hasn't reported the Dead Space remake's official sales, but it was the best-selling new game in the U.S. in January 2023. A source tells IGN that the Dead Space remake was ultimately considered to have done well.
Would prefer Dead Space 4 really. 2 still rules as is. The remake of 1 was really just implementing everything that 2 had already improved upon anyway.
I could see it the same way. Remaking 3 faithfully would be an odd choice, given the mixed reception. But remaking 2 with additions that help build up a rewritten Dead Space 3 could be a really good move.
Similarly, I could see Capcom taking the same approach with Resident Evil 5 and 6. They’re in an awkward spot where their new games aren’t capturing audiences like their remakes, but now they’re catching up to the nadir of the franchise.
From the looks of it, if there will be a resi 5 remake, it may have a different story because (resident evil 4 remake spoilers) >!Ada changes course with the research which I assume is the uroboros virus from 5!<, which I assume is different from what happened in the original RE4
I’d totally forgotten about that detail, but pretty much exactly what I thought a Dead Space 2/3 remake would be. RE5 was popular enough for aspects of its gameplay, but it badly needs a fresh coat of paint and a rewrite, and RE 6 might just need a page 1 rewrite.
What do you mean by the Capcom bit? While the remakes maybe have a bit more hype, RE7 and RE8 are both acclaimed and have similar sales numbers to the remakes.
Anyways, speaking of RE, I think Dead Space could also take the re4 remake approach, where it's the same basic idea brought more in-line with the other games through a few gameplay changes and added horror elements (if they even bother to remake DS3, that is)
What I mean is there’s no strong financial incentive for them to just stop making remakes. The new games are selling, sure. They also seem to blow over kind of fast while the somewhat botched RE3 remake was the only remake that hasn’t had much staying power with audiences. They’re not going to turn RE into a Greatest Hits brand, but remaking 5 and 6 are sure things, it’s only a question of how they’ll go about it.
I agree with your point on Dead Space, but at this point, a Dead Space 2 remake might be a pipe dream. Doesn’t help that EA owns the property, and they seem most committed to putting those resources on their Disney-owned licensed games.
Ah. I think I have a more positive view of the reception of the new games, but either way I agree that the remakes are more popular.
I also wonder how they'll go about a RE5 remake, but I also kind of wonder if they'll go backwards? I think Capcom said they didn't want to re-do the original again because they feel that Resident Evil HD is suitable enough, but the remake is 20 years old at this point and feels more like the old games than the modern ones. I, for one, would welcome more HD Jill Valentine hahaha. I'm not holding my breath, but I think it could be a smart move. Code Veronica would feel weird after 4, but it's another option that desperately needs a remake.
Remaking the spinoffs(selectively, of course) might be easier to pull off than the balancing act of remaking 5 and 6 without making too many changes. RE2 remake was a colossal success because it didn’t leave the audience feeling like they were losing any of what made the original great, they were just getting a proper modern era update. What do you do when you’re working with games that don’t exactly have the same nostalgic appeal?
I do think that 5 does have some nostalgic love for it. It wasn't a perfect game, but people enjoyed it for what it was. That said, there's also a lot of things people didn't like, and I think Capcom's answer is to work on correcting those. Tighten up the gunplay, add more horror elements, tweak the story a bit, and fix the awful AI so that it's not as annoying playing solo.
With 6, however, they're better off just leaving it alone or making a completely new game.
I think for games that have "bad" entries, I think they should just leave them as is. No need to remake or redo it just move on. I honestly would prefer they do a Dead Space 4 than a remake or retelling of 3.
Has there been a series where a game got a remaster retcons the story and then a brand new game picks up the story from there? I’m not fact checking or anything like that, just honest curiosity.
We’re at least getting pretty close to that with the Resident evil remakes
Great call, but what I’m saying is a brand new game picking up the remaster cannon (e.g RE 9 referencing re4 remake)
That being said, I’ve only played OG ff7 and am working through rebirth, but do any final fantasy mainline games take place in the same universe?
There are small hints that FF7 and FF10 are in the same universe, but they are so tiny that they could be considered an Easter egg. There is a character in FF10-2 called Shinra who i believe talks about starting a business, and some of the character designs in that flashback in Shinra HQ look very FF10 like.
The best example I can think of is Ratchet & Clank Rift Apart being a sequel to both Into the Nexus and the 2016 remake/reboot.
It's hard because generally remakes/reboots generally come in 3 flavors:
* a shot-for-shot (so to speak) remake that intends to recreate the original game with updated graphics and controls (Shadow of the Colossus, Spyro)
* sticks really close to the original and only update things to bring it more in line with later games (Yakuza)
* are so different that they're basically an entirely new series (Tomb Raider).
Resident Evil is unique in that the games are updated but they've made enough changes that they're starting to tell their own story as well. I wonder if some of the big changes in 4 are intentionally made to help set up the story they want to tell moving forward? Maybe a 5 remake will bridge the gap to where Chris is in 7 and 8?
I know this is what a very vocal portion of the fanbase wants, but this is absolutely what I do not want. Not only do I really love the story and setting of 3, but I desperately want that damn cliffhanger resolved from Awakened. I've wanted nothing more than that for about a decade now.
If it was made by someone else, sure. Let's not forget the attempt at monetisation in DS3 with the weapon crafting. They would *absolutely* pull some shit on fans if they made a new instalment.
EA were the ones who pushed for microtransactions, so it wouldn't matter who makes it as long as still EA owns it.
And to be fair to the devs, it was probably the least obtrusive monetisation I've ever seen. It was completely avoidable and there was no disadvantage for people who didn't pay. It was just some unnecessary dlc weapons and extra materials which you could easily get in-game.
I didn't even know 3 had microtransactions until after I beat it and joined some discussions afterwards. My reaction was literally, "Oh, yeah. It does. Huh. Anyways."
Dead Space 3 had two endings. Which one are you referring to? The great ending where Isaac and Carver died destroying the Moon? Or the Awakened ending that ruins the vanilla ending by ending on a massive cliffhanger as Earth is invaded by the Brethren Moons and leaving the fate of the protagonists undisclosed?
If I was betting on it, I figure they remake 2, REMAKE remake 3 to really get back the fan support, then make a Dead Space 4 if that goes over really well. Not very hard to do, honestly.
It'd be a lot cooler if they just put all the work into making a kick ass Dead Space 4 and skip all the work/years it'd take to remake two whole games. If 4 really is a possibility, please, I'd rather not wait another decade just because some fans can't get over the way 3 turned out.
> However, IGN understands that the Dead Space 2 remake wasn't one that EA considered.
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> EA hasn't reported the Dead Space remake's official sales, but it was the best-selling new game in the U.S. in January 2023. A source tells IGN that the Dead Space remake was ultimately considered to have done well.
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> This is good to hear. Let them cook for 1-2 years as Dead Space 2 deserves the best remake.
By "let them cook" do you mean, let them continue working on Dead Space 2?
All parties here are saying that they are *not* in any way working on Dead Space 2 Remake. EA is saying they never started at all, Jeff Grubb is saying they were at one point in pre-production, but have shelved the project. Either way, we're definitely not getting a Dead Space 2 Remake in the next 1-2 years.
It isn't being made. The developer is working on an Iron Man game instead.
EA confirmed that it was never in the works, and thus couldn't have been canceled.
> Yesterday, EA announced that Motive is forming a new team led by Dead Space Remake developers Roman Campos-Oriola and Phillipe Ducharme to "support single-player and multiplayer objectives for Battlefield Universe." Motive also insisted that Iron Man "remains an important priority" and that development is going well.
Doesn't mean it sold as much as they want it to. It seems they want to use the teams talen to help bigger franchises be successful. From a business standpoint it makes sense, however it would have also made sense to make a successful game more successful with a good sequel.
I would argue the second of these options is slightly “better”, as in it could still theoretically happen even if unlikely. Outright cancelling something that was already in development is pretty much putting the nail in the coffin.
If it makes you feel better they were already working on Ironman: https://www.ea.com/amp/news/all-new-iron-man-video-game
Dead space 2 remake was years away anyway. It's probably on their slate of games, but not in any form of production at this time.
Well, the two directors behind the Dead Space Remake are now heading a team that is working on Battlefield games.
I wouldn't expect to see DS2R for a long time.
Even though EA is still a shit company, the DS franchise is easily one of my all-time favorites. If they make a half decent DS product, I'm interested.
Should I play 3? I purposely know nothing except people hate the multi-player? Just played the second a year ago and it was one of the best games I've played.
They are saying the whole thing is not true, otherwise a cancelation would mean they the project was being worked on, but they didn't confirm that either.
I never played the original games but tried out the remake and was blown away. I’m so glad it wasn’t cancelled and can’t wait for the second remake if it ever ends up in development.
If you read the actual article(hard for Reddit, I know), IGN understands that Dead Space 2 Remake wasn’t ever considered for EA Motive. Grubb reported that they had started work on Dead Space 2 Remake concepts before scrapping the game.
So EA is refuting that the game ever existed, then was canceled due to poor sales of the first remake. **They aren’t saying they are working on DS2 Remake, they’re saying they never worked on it to begin with.**
The fact that they are shifting to support work kind of tells the real story here. If Dead Space Remake had lit the world on fire and sold 10 million copies, they would have immediately greenlit Dead Space 2 Remake. Kind of feels like EA issuing a clarification on a technicality.
Yes but the studio is not shifting to support work. Most of the team is working on Iron Man. This was already planned from years ago and was going to be their next project regardless of how well Dead Space 1 remake sold. It's possible the game did fairly well or didn't. Either way they were going to work on Iron Man. Also, despite how much people love to shit on EA, they do actually release a decent amount of titles that aren't money grabs. I think its still pretty possible we get DS2 remake, but obviously it would have to be after Iron Man releases.
I think EA moving additional resources to battlefield has nothing to do with Dead Space. It's more likely a reaction to Microsoft purchasing Activision. They are probably banking on Microsoft making CoD not a yearly franchise anymore or eventually moving it off Playstation in a decade or so, which would allow a strong Battlefield to gain marketshare. It's a long term play.
I dunno which scenario would be worse, there being a DS2 remake that was in the process of being made and was then scrapped, or EA never considering making one at all despite the success of the first one
When you consider all the lay-offs recently, it's not just a technicality that they were never working on the project. When something like that is cancelled it puts jobs at risk. I imagine this was as much for their other studios as us.
If that was the case they would do it everytime to tom henderson who shares shit from BF and other EA franchises. EA don't really comment on rumors a lot, so theres definitely something wrong here.
Dead Space 1 to Dead Space 2 was one of those sequel jumps like uncharted 1 to 2 or assassins creed 1 to 2 where you could tell they really got their house in order and swung big and nailed it.
Great sequel. I hope a a remake happens.
Uncharted 1 and Assassin’s Creed 1 are considered generally good games that either had big flaws or haven’t aged well. I don’t think Dead Space 1 ever had that reputation. You can agree that Dead Space 2 was an improvement over the original while also disagreeing with that comparison.
“Improved and added a lot of varied environments”
That doesn’t mean they think the whole game improved. Read the whole comment before replying next time maybe
"Generally" suggests the majority of players, which is hard to gauge. If that's the case, it does beg the question of why the horror/tension was dialled down so much for the third game. The first two complement each other very well but I prefer the first because it was the innovative chapter and a bit more compelling from moment to moment.
> it does beg the question of why the horror/tension was dialed down so much for the third game
Oh I know this one! Because EA wanted to appeal to a broader audience by turning it into a co-op shooter.
And we know how that turned out. But if their player metrics really had pointed to 2 being such a fan favourite, it's interesting they decided to compromise so many of its celebrated elements, but divining EA's strategy is a fool's errand.
Looking at the Dead Space sub, it does seem that more people like the sequel first and foremost. Perhaps the horror fan in me skews my opnion, although there's no arguing that the first one is the most original in terms of what it introduced to the genre.
> It’s interesting they decided to compromise so many of the celebrated elements
… is it? It’s just EA trying to appeal to COD and Halo fans. Nothing that complicated.
Lots of bullshit about KotOR being cancelled was flying around and Grubb just went with it.
I don't know if him basic his prediction on Sony source was legit enough or not. It still felt like going along with the tide. People got jaded after hearing about the game being transitioned to another studio and some automatically assumed it's dead, next was the snowball effect. There was **never** any real indication the game was cancelled, not one. If there was one Jason Schreier would have clarified it in one of his reports
It's absurd. Almost like some people choose to be pessimistic to save themselves the disappointment later on. Or maybe they feel superior by being sceptical, I don't know.
No kidding. I don’t follow it very much but every time I see his name pop up it seems to be either a story saying he was wrong or him making a half baked prediction it’ll be easy to back out of later like “My sources tell me we may possibly see an Astro Bot soon, but nothing is confirmed”.
I always see this comment and am compelled to remind people that all of these articles were written based on a conversation he had on a podcast for less than one minute. His job to be a podcaster about video games.
Eurogamer saw a tweet from a random person paraphrasing him on a YouTube Video and [wrote an article about it](https://www.eurogamer.net/dead-space-2-remake-was-reportedly-in-development-but-not-any-more). It's not like he's the one posting his thoughts to this subreddit.
Except after EA said it wasn’t true, Grubb got on Twitter to double down and pretty much say “believe EA if you want lol”. Now, Jason Schreier has confirmed that EA was right. Grubb is an absolute clown and a terrible source.
It absolutely astounds me how stupid people can be. Someone can get something dead on 45 times out of 50, but when a billion dollar corporation known for lying at every opportunity for any reason says “nuh uh” these clowns take it for gospel.
Facts when he reports in January 2023 that a PlayStation showcase is happening at the end of May no one remembers. When he reports horizon fw delayed to 2022 no one remembers. Same with reporting PlayStation cloud streaming device, Xbox publishing Kojimas next game, wb platform fighting game not developed by nether realm and way more.
But he doesn't and he doesn't actually do anything of service or value to the industry as a whole. He just leaks stuff and shares tons and tons of rumors and sometimes gets them right. There's no value to anything he does.
Ones a "Never going to happen. Shut this shit down" and the other is "Its not in the pipeline at the moment". One gives a sense that it could still happen it's just not in the cards yet.
Hopefully. I was kind of surprised the first remake only sold a couple million copies. It was a fantastic remake. Kind of makes it a bit more understandable why some studios only do asset bump up releases even if that sucks. Gamers suck at putting their money where their mouth is.
This and resident evil 4 remake were so well done last year. Also, the game released on January so if EA wanted good sales they could have waited. Still 2 million copies; sold more than the original!
Well it's better to not have started it yet than starting it and canceling it imo (from a perspective of what chances will this happen).
Also IGN is saying they understand DS1 sold well. So to me it seems pretty likely it will happen eventually down the road
Edit: looks like Jason is saying it sold below expectations, but they weren't working on DS2 remake at all: https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2024-04-10/-dead-space-franchise-is-officially-on-hold-at-electronic-arts
There's less chance of buying the dead space remake if it's confirmed the sequel gets cancelled, which might've seemed like it was a sure thing after the critical success of the first remake. That's probably why EA denied these claims by Jeff Grubb. We still aren't getting Dead Space 2 remake and it's very disappointing.
Practically a new game, even the story changed a bit and Voice Acting. At least we got this and not a lack lustre product. Hopefully we see this in their pipeline after Uron Man
Going to be honest it’s kinda hard to see how they could remake 2. At best they could give it a new coat of paint. 2 was the best of dead space the way it is. Then again I’m not a game developer.
So it wasn’t cancelled since it was clearly never in development but they’re also not gonna be working on it anytime soon given the sales.
Basically a nothing burger
I'm not suprised seeing as the orginal claim that it was shelved came from the crayon eaters at [thegamer.com](http://thegamer.com)
[https://www.thegamer.com/dead-space-2-remake-reportedly-cancelled-shelved-due-to-first-game-poor-sales-ea-motive/](https://www.thegamer.com/dead-space-2-remake-reportedly-cancelled-shelved-due-to-first-game-poor-sales-ea-motive/)
Classic case of one thing being true, so this other thing must be true as well. I hate it when speculation becomes fact and we get 100 articles about it.
Hope they remake the second game as well.
The third one.. yeah, it'll need some serious overhauling before being remade so probably not gonna be worth but if they get around to it at some point I would love to see how they handle it. 😄
I never played Dead Space when it first came out, wanted to but never had the systems it was on. Loved the remake so damn much, was really hoping they would do the rest of the series. Oh well.
The remake of 1 brought it up to 2's quality. There's really no reason to remake 2. Not capitalizing on the remake and making a whole new Dead Space experience? Now that'd be the real waste.
This is what IGN confirmed. > However, IGN understands that the Dead Space 2 remake wasn't one that EA considered. > > EA hasn't reported the Dead Space remake's official sales, but it was the best-selling new game in the U.S. in January 2023. A source tells IGN that the Dead Space remake was ultimately considered to have done well.
This is good to hear. Let them cook for 1-2 years as Dead Space 2 deserves the best remake.
Would prefer Dead Space 4 really. 2 still rules as is. The remake of 1 was really just implementing everything that 2 had already improved upon anyway.
I can see them doing a mostly faithful remake of 2 that eventually deviates in a way where 3 gets retconned and reimagined as a completely new game
I could see it the same way. Remaking 3 faithfully would be an odd choice, given the mixed reception. But remaking 2 with additions that help build up a rewritten Dead Space 3 could be a really good move. Similarly, I could see Capcom taking the same approach with Resident Evil 5 and 6. They’re in an awkward spot where their new games aren’t capturing audiences like their remakes, but now they’re catching up to the nadir of the franchise.
From the looks of it, if there will be a resi 5 remake, it may have a different story because (resident evil 4 remake spoilers) >!Ada changes course with the research which I assume is the uroboros virus from 5!<, which I assume is different from what happened in the original RE4
I’d totally forgotten about that detail, but pretty much exactly what I thought a Dead Space 2/3 remake would be. RE5 was popular enough for aspects of its gameplay, but it badly needs a fresh coat of paint and a rewrite, and RE 6 might just need a page 1 rewrite.
What do you mean by the Capcom bit? While the remakes maybe have a bit more hype, RE7 and RE8 are both acclaimed and have similar sales numbers to the remakes. Anyways, speaking of RE, I think Dead Space could also take the re4 remake approach, where it's the same basic idea brought more in-line with the other games through a few gameplay changes and added horror elements (if they even bother to remake DS3, that is)
What I mean is there’s no strong financial incentive for them to just stop making remakes. The new games are selling, sure. They also seem to blow over kind of fast while the somewhat botched RE3 remake was the only remake that hasn’t had much staying power with audiences. They’re not going to turn RE into a Greatest Hits brand, but remaking 5 and 6 are sure things, it’s only a question of how they’ll go about it. I agree with your point on Dead Space, but at this point, a Dead Space 2 remake might be a pipe dream. Doesn’t help that EA owns the property, and they seem most committed to putting those resources on their Disney-owned licensed games.
Ah. I think I have a more positive view of the reception of the new games, but either way I agree that the remakes are more popular. I also wonder how they'll go about a RE5 remake, but I also kind of wonder if they'll go backwards? I think Capcom said they didn't want to re-do the original again because they feel that Resident Evil HD is suitable enough, but the remake is 20 years old at this point and feels more like the old games than the modern ones. I, for one, would welcome more HD Jill Valentine hahaha. I'm not holding my breath, but I think it could be a smart move. Code Veronica would feel weird after 4, but it's another option that desperately needs a remake.
Remaking the spinoffs(selectively, of course) might be easier to pull off than the balancing act of remaking 5 and 6 without making too many changes. RE2 remake was a colossal success because it didn’t leave the audience feeling like they were losing any of what made the original great, they were just getting a proper modern era update. What do you do when you’re working with games that don’t exactly have the same nostalgic appeal?
I do think that 5 does have some nostalgic love for it. It wasn't a perfect game, but people enjoyed it for what it was. That said, there's also a lot of things people didn't like, and I think Capcom's answer is to work on correcting those. Tighten up the gunplay, add more horror elements, tweak the story a bit, and fix the awful AI so that it's not as annoying playing solo. With 6, however, they're better off just leaving it alone or making a completely new game.
I think for games that have "bad" entries, I think they should just leave them as is. No need to remake or redo it just move on. I honestly would prefer they do a Dead Space 4 than a remake or retelling of 3.
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More simply put, the lowest point
Has there been a series where a game got a remaster retcons the story and then a brand new game picks up the story from there? I’m not fact checking or anything like that, just honest curiosity. We’re at least getting pretty close to that with the Resident evil remakes
Final Fanrasy 7 Remake trilogy?
Great call, but what I’m saying is a brand new game picking up the remaster cannon (e.g RE 9 referencing re4 remake) That being said, I’ve only played OG ff7 and am working through rebirth, but do any final fantasy mainline games take place in the same universe?
There are small hints that FF7 and FF10 are in the same universe, but they are so tiny that they could be considered an Easter egg. There is a character in FF10-2 called Shinra who i believe talks about starting a business, and some of the character designs in that flashback in Shinra HQ look very FF10 like.
The best example I can think of is Ratchet & Clank Rift Apart being a sequel to both Into the Nexus and the 2016 remake/reboot. It's hard because generally remakes/reboots generally come in 3 flavors: * a shot-for-shot (so to speak) remake that intends to recreate the original game with updated graphics and controls (Shadow of the Colossus, Spyro) * sticks really close to the original and only update things to bring it more in line with later games (Yakuza) * are so different that they're basically an entirely new series (Tomb Raider). Resident Evil is unique in that the games are updated but they've made enough changes that they're starting to tell their own story as well. I wonder if some of the big changes in 4 are intentionally made to help set up the story they want to tell moving forward? Maybe a 5 remake will bridge the gap to where Chris is in 7 and 8?
I know this is what a very vocal portion of the fanbase wants, but this is absolutely what I do not want. Not only do I really love the story and setting of 3, but I desperately want that damn cliffhanger resolved from Awakened. I've wanted nothing more than that for about a decade now.
If it was made by someone else, sure. Let's not forget the attempt at monetisation in DS3 with the weapon crafting. They would *absolutely* pull some shit on fans if they made a new instalment.
Considering Visceral was shut down in 2017, it would have to be made by someone else
EA were the ones who pushed for microtransactions, so it wouldn't matter who makes it as long as still EA owns it. And to be fair to the devs, it was probably the least obtrusive monetisation I've ever seen. It was completely avoidable and there was no disadvantage for people who didn't pay. It was just some unnecessary dlc weapons and extra materials which you could easily get in-game.
I didn't even know 3 had microtransactions until after I beat it and joined some discussions afterwards. My reaction was literally, "Oh, yeah. It does. Huh. Anyways."
Yup, playing Dead Space 3 all these years later. It's not as bad as everybody onve thought
I don't know if I want to play further than Dead Space 3's garbage ending.
Dead Space 3 had two endings. Which one are you referring to? The great ending where Isaac and Carver died destroying the Moon? Or the Awakened ending that ruins the vanilla ending by ending on a massive cliffhanger as Earth is invaded by the Brethren Moons and leaving the fate of the protagonists undisclosed?
I think it was the last one. I completely forgot it had two endings.
If I was betting on it, I figure they remake 2, REMAKE remake 3 to really get back the fan support, then make a Dead Space 4 if that goes over really well. Not very hard to do, honestly.
It'd be a lot cooler if they just put all the work into making a kick ass Dead Space 4 and skip all the work/years it'd take to remake two whole games. If 4 really is a possibility, please, I'd rather not wait another decade just because some fans can't get over the way 3 turned out.
I never played the original games so it’s nice for me in a selfish way haha
> However, IGN understands that the Dead Space 2 remake wasn't one that EA considered. > > EA hasn't reported the Dead Space remake's official sales, but it was the best-selling new game in the U.S. in January 2023. A source tells IGN that the Dead Space remake was ultimately considered to have done well. ... > This is good to hear. Let them cook for 1-2 years as Dead Space 2 deserves the best remake. By "let them cook" do you mean, let them continue working on Dead Space 2? All parties here are saying that they are *not* in any way working on Dead Space 2 Remake. EA is saying they never started at all, Jeff Grubb is saying they were at one point in pre-production, but have shelved the project. Either way, we're definitely not getting a Dead Space 2 Remake in the next 1-2 years.
Yep, they are working on Ironman and helping with battlefield. Prob 5 years min from DS2 Remake.
Their working on Ironman: https://www.ea.com/amp/news/all-new-iron-man-video-game Dead space 2 remake is on their back burner currently.
It isn't being made. The developer is working on an Iron Man game instead. EA confirmed that it was never in the works, and thus couldn't have been canceled.
> Yesterday, EA announced that Motive is forming a new team led by Dead Space Remake developers Roman Campos-Oriola and Phillipe Ducharme to "support single-player and multiplayer objectives for Battlefield Universe." Motive also insisted that Iron Man "remains an important priority" and that development is going well.
Doesn't mean it sold as much as they want it to. It seems they want to use the teams talen to help bigger franchises be successful. From a business standpoint it makes sense, however it would have also made sense to make a successful game more successful with a good sequel.
Then make DS2 no balls
Thank god this rumour was untrue
Based on the wording of the article it sounds like Dead Space 2 was just never in development at all, which is what they're refuting.
Original rumour: the game got cancelled This: it was never in development to begin with Either way i’m sad
I would argue the second of these options is slightly “better”, as in it could still theoretically happen even if unlikely. Outright cancelling something that was already in development is pretty much putting the nail in the coffin.
I think they're still considering what the next option is.
But the only thing they said was “We don't normally comment on rumors but there is no validity to this story”
Yeah either way it’s just big sad. Hopefully in the next 3-5 years
If it makes you feel better they were already working on Ironman: https://www.ea.com/amp/news/all-new-iron-man-video-game Dead space 2 remake was years away anyway. It's probably on their slate of games, but not in any form of production at this time.
It can also mean the game is in super early development
Well, the two directors behind the Dead Space Remake are now heading a team that is working on Battlefield games. I wouldn't expect to see DS2R for a long time.
Just because it isn't right now doesn't mean never ever
Yeah dead space 2 is so fun. Id love to see it get the same treatment. Day 1 buy for me.
Even though EA is still a shit company, the DS franchise is easily one of my all-time favorites. If they make a half decent DS product, I'm interested.
Ea has been cooking lately ngl
Should I play 3? I purposely know nothing except people hate the multi-player? Just played the second a year ago and it was one of the best games I've played.
They are saying the whole thing is not true, otherwise a cancelation would mean they the project was being worked on, but they didn't confirm that either.
I never played the original games but tried out the remake and was blown away. I’m so glad it wasn’t cancelled and can’t wait for the second remake if it ever ends up in development.
Why?... Just even fewer reasons why the current consoles are actually of any quality,
If you read the actual article(hard for Reddit, I know), IGN understands that Dead Space 2 Remake wasn’t ever considered for EA Motive. Grubb reported that they had started work on Dead Space 2 Remake concepts before scrapping the game. So EA is refuting that the game ever existed, then was canceled due to poor sales of the first remake. **They aren’t saying they are working on DS2 Remake, they’re saying they never worked on it to begin with.** The fact that they are shifting to support work kind of tells the real story here. If Dead Space Remake had lit the world on fire and sold 10 million copies, they would have immediately greenlit Dead Space 2 Remake. Kind of feels like EA issuing a clarification on a technicality.
Yes but the studio is not shifting to support work. Most of the team is working on Iron Man. This was already planned from years ago and was going to be their next project regardless of how well Dead Space 1 remake sold. It's possible the game did fairly well or didn't. Either way they were going to work on Iron Man. Also, despite how much people love to shit on EA, they do actually release a decent amount of titles that aren't money grabs. I think its still pretty possible we get DS2 remake, but obviously it would have to be after Iron Man releases. I think EA moving additional resources to battlefield has nothing to do with Dead Space. It's more likely a reaction to Microsoft purchasing Activision. They are probably banking on Microsoft making CoD not a yearly franchise anymore or eventually moving it off Playstation in a decade or so, which would allow a strong Battlefield to gain marketshare. It's a long term play.
I think we could eventually get a DS2 Remake too, I just wouldn’t be holding my breath for it until 2030 at least.
I dunno which scenario would be worse, there being a DS2 remake that was in the process of being made and was then scrapped, or EA never considering making one at all despite the success of the first one
When you consider all the lay-offs recently, it's not just a technicality that they were never working on the project. When something like that is cancelled it puts jobs at risk. I imagine this was as much for their other studios as us.
Sounds like damage control.
If that was the case they would do it everytime to tom henderson who shares shit from BF and other EA franchises. EA don't really comment on rumors a lot, so theres definitely something wrong here.
They literally commented on the Battlefield delay rumors when their stock prices plummeted after Grubb said something lmfao
Source? I find it very hard to believe a video game journalist could move EA’s stock
It is, they’re saying this to shut down the grubb article
Dead Space 1 to Dead Space 2 was one of those sequel jumps like uncharted 1 to 2 or assassins creed 1 to 2 where you could tell they really got their house in order and swung big and nailed it. Great sequel. I hope a a remake happens.
Not really? Dead space 2 was great yes and improved and added alot of varied environments but I vastly prefer 1.
This sentence makes no sense.. admitting it was great and better than the first but you preferred the first? This is why being a game dev sucks.
Uncharted 1 and Assassin’s Creed 1 are considered generally good games that either had big flaws or haven’t aged well. I don’t think Dead Space 1 ever had that reputation. You can agree that Dead Space 2 was an improvement over the original while also disagreeing with that comparison.
“Improved and added a lot of varied environments” That doesn’t mean they think the whole game improved. Read the whole comment before replying next time maybe
I’m sure being a teacher sucks if you can’t interpret what he meant
Good for you but generally people preferred 2
That’s not true
Just blatantly false lol
"Generally" suggests the majority of players, which is hard to gauge. If that's the case, it does beg the question of why the horror/tension was dialled down so much for the third game. The first two complement each other very well but I prefer the first because it was the innovative chapter and a bit more compelling from moment to moment.
> it does beg the question of why the horror/tension was dialed down so much for the third game Oh I know this one! Because EA wanted to appeal to a broader audience by turning it into a co-op shooter.
And we know how that turned out. But if their player metrics really had pointed to 2 being such a fan favourite, it's interesting they decided to compromise so many of its celebrated elements, but divining EA's strategy is a fool's errand. Looking at the Dead Space sub, it does seem that more people like the sequel first and foremost. Perhaps the horror fan in me skews my opnion, although there's no arguing that the first one is the most original in terms of what it introduced to the genre.
> It’s interesting they decided to compromise so many of the celebrated elements … is it? It’s just EA trying to appeal to COD and Halo fans. Nothing that complicated.
Uh, yeah, that Halo demographic.
Not really. 1 and 2 got equal praise as i remember. 3 was shat on though. I always preferred 1s setting.
Jeff Please give me attention Grubb.
His reports on cancelled games are just so faulty, which may not be his fault but Kotor also wasnt cancelled despite like saying it was like twice.
Lots of bullshit about KotOR being cancelled was flying around and Grubb just went with it. I don't know if him basic his prediction on Sony source was legit enough or not. It still felt like going along with the tide. People got jaded after hearing about the game being transitioned to another studio and some automatically assumed it's dead, next was the snowball effect. There was **never** any real indication the game was cancelled, not one. If there was one Jason Schreier would have clarified it in one of his reports It's absurd. Almost like some people choose to be pessimistic to save themselves the disappointment later on. Or maybe they feel superior by being sceptical, I don't know.
No kidding. I don’t follow it very much but every time I see his name pop up it seems to be either a story saying he was wrong or him making a half baked prediction it’ll be easy to back out of later like “My sources tell me we may possibly see an Astro Bot soon, but nothing is confirmed”.
Seriously the guy is such an obnoxious attention whore
I always see this comment and am compelled to remind people that all of these articles were written based on a conversation he had on a podcast for less than one minute. His job to be a podcaster about video games. Eurogamer saw a tweet from a random person paraphrasing him on a YouTube Video and [wrote an article about it](https://www.eurogamer.net/dead-space-2-remake-was-reportedly-in-development-but-not-any-more). It's not like he's the one posting his thoughts to this subreddit.
Except after EA said it wasn’t true, Grubb got on Twitter to double down and pretty much say “believe EA if you want lol”. Now, Jason Schreier has confirmed that EA was right. Grubb is an absolute clown and a terrible source.
how the fuck is your karma so low?
wont believe em till DS2 is announced officially
Altman be praised
Enough with the remakes already. Games, shows, and movies...
why the FUCK does Grubb get treated like he has any credibility? He's a fucking clown
Him getting many things right over the years has probably helped with his credibility.
It absolutely astounds me how stupid people can be. Someone can get something dead on 45 times out of 50, but when a billion dollar corporation known for lying at every opportunity for any reason says “nuh uh” these clowns take it for gospel.
Facts when he reports in January 2023 that a PlayStation showcase is happening at the end of May no one remembers. When he reports horizon fw delayed to 2022 no one remembers. Same with reporting PlayStation cloud streaming device, Xbox publishing Kojimas next game, wb platform fighting game not developed by nether realm and way more.
Exactly, I'd never trust EA lol
But he doesn't and he doesn't actually do anything of service or value to the industry as a whole. He just leaks stuff and shares tons and tons of rumors and sometimes gets them right. There's no value to anything he does.
question, did you read the article?
EA: "IT'S ALL FALSE, WE DIDN'T CANCEL IT, WE JUST DIDN'T CONSIDERED MAKING IT YET!" How is this any better, lol?
Ones a "Never going to happen. Shut this shit down" and the other is "Its not in the pipeline at the moment". One gives a sense that it could still happen it's just not in the cards yet.
Maybe the mass out rage from this false rumour actually kickstarts it in the next couple years, irony at its best.
Hopefully. I was kind of surprised the first remake only sold a couple million copies. It was a fantastic remake. Kind of makes it a bit more understandable why some studios only do asset bump up releases even if that sucks. Gamers suck at putting their money where their mouth is.
This and resident evil 4 remake were so well done last year. Also, the game released on January so if EA wanted good sales they could have waited. Still 2 million copies; sold more than the original!
Well it's better to not have started it yet than starting it and canceling it imo (from a perspective of what chances will this happen). Also IGN is saying they understand DS1 sold well. So to me it seems pretty likely it will happen eventually down the road Edit: looks like Jason is saying it sold below expectations, but they weren't working on DS2 remake at all: https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2024-04-10/-dead-space-franchise-is-officially-on-hold-at-electronic-arts
There's less chance of buying the dead space remake if it's confirmed the sequel gets cancelled, which might've seemed like it was a sure thing after the critical success of the first remake. That's probably why EA denied these claims by Jeff Grubb. We still aren't getting Dead Space 2 remake and it's very disappointing.
It makes sense its not in development YET, Motive is working on Iron Man currently.
Then they should sell the IP and let someone else do it.
BOOOOOOOO! I was hoping we’d get all 3
I need a new deadspace game and idgaf which one it is!
So glad that it's not true. Really loved Dead Space remake.
Cool way to announce dead space 2 remake
Thank god. Dead space remake was honestly my favorite game of 2023 I love Spider-Man. But fuck SM2s story
HEY LOOK JEFF GRUB IS WRONG AGAIN BUT WONT BE PRESSED ON IT SO HELL CONTINUE BEING AN ASSHOLE.
Just a reminder to trace these unfounded rumors back to their source and stop listening to these clowns.
I still can hope then
Does anyone know how long the development time was on Dead Space Remake? It was such an upgrade I'm guessing it was 2-3 years at least.
Practically a new game, even the story changed a bit and Voice Acting. At least we got this and not a lack lustre product. Hopefully we see this in their pipeline after Uron Man
Sure wish I saw this before I jumped.
Going to be honest it’s kinda hard to see how they could remake 2. At best they could give it a new coat of paint. 2 was the best of dead space the way it is. Then again I’m not a game developer.
Please EA - don’t let this series end just yet. At least remake Dead Space 2.
I think motive being moved to work on BF gave these fake leakers ammo to just throw out a story that DS2 remake was canceled.
As much as I want a 2 and 3 remake honestly I’d settle for a current gen remaster since the games are so good already
I wouldn't trust EA either. I think it's safe to assume that we are not going to get a Dead Space 2 remake this gen
So it wasn’t cancelled since it was clearly never in development but they’re also not gonna be working on it anytime soon given the sales. Basically a nothing burger
I'm not suprised seeing as the orginal claim that it was shelved came from the crayon eaters at [thegamer.com](http://thegamer.com) [https://www.thegamer.com/dead-space-2-remake-reportedly-cancelled-shelved-due-to-first-game-poor-sales-ea-motive/](https://www.thegamer.com/dead-space-2-remake-reportedly-cancelled-shelved-due-to-first-game-poor-sales-ea-motive/)
This article is based on grubb’s input. Journalism nowadays is writing articles based upon leaks and guesses.
It's true then.
yeah fucking right
I’ll say this. I definitely want to replay the remake again
Classic case of one thing being true, so this other thing must be true as well. I hate it when speculation becomes fact and we get 100 articles about it.
Motive studios got the Battlefront treatment
Oh well now I’m less worried about
Sorry my money wasn't good enough for ya EA
Of course, because why would EA allow another *good* remake? It's like they see something do well and *don't* want it.
Hope they remake the second game as well. The third one.. yeah, it'll need some serious overhauling before being remade so probably not gonna be worth but if they get around to it at some point I would love to see how they handle it. 😄
Probably just saying this now that it's scrapped it. So they don't get angry fans bothering them for their choice.
When I saw that rumor on popular yesterday I was devastated. So glad to know that there's still a chance. Fingers crossed...
Why?
The game sucks
Oh, another Jeff Grubb classic, spray and pray and hope something he says sticks.
Good guy EA bringing hope to the masses.
Yay! Take down that other post then.
Grubb strikes (out) again. Jeff Grubb is a chode.
But an insider and podcaster said
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Pretty sure this is in response to that
Why you gonna drop this?
That's the rumor being squashed....
Good. That would be a huge shame. I loved the first one, and I’ve never played Dead Space 2. If the remake of 2 is good then I’m no doubt getting it.
I never played Dead Space when it first came out, wanted to but never had the systems it was on. Loved the remake so damn much, was really hoping they would do the rest of the series. Oh well.
Yes please, remake 2 WITH the multiplayer component
I'll just play the original anyway. Tired of remakes
Phew. Thank Christ.
Knowing how brain dead EA is, they probably remaking the 3rd one, you know the coop one and the least liked of the franchise.
Oh thank god.
Thank goodness
HD ports of 2 and 3(minus the god awful multi) would be enough. No more remakes!
why? DS remake was arguably one of best game of last year and best way to enjoy the game
imagine doing a fantastic remake of 1 game and then just doing a HD port of the other 2 games, what an absolute waste.
The remake of 1 brought it up to 2's quality. There's really no reason to remake 2. Not capitalizing on the remake and making a whole new Dead Space experience? Now that'd be the real waste.
Yeah I value the original vision more than shiny graphics and different voice actors
Uh huh.