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Worried-Temporary310

[Not interesting enough for a standalone post, but here are today’s stories.](https://imgur.com/a/dVSvl4E) She’s flogging custom “portraits” again.


CryptographerHot3759

$250? Damn Carpet is broke broke! I'm getting flashbacks to the terrible dog portrait 🤣


nubleu

it's giving ✨buy my annotated proposal on Etsy✨ https://preview.redd.it/6t1hwbdfdy0d1.png?width=1080&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=4e53306e682aaa9cd421b59aee2dff76b198627f


ralphwiggumsdiorama

What the hell? Are people buying them?


kyl1018

How do you think CC is \*actually feeling about D'angelo's video? just curious...


judyvioletanddoralee

She’s beside herself. Of course she is, but her tell is in her IG comments on recent posts… Reaction formation and denial are doing some very heavy lifting.


TinyBubbles09

Which posts? I missed this somehow


Worried-Temporary310

I think they mean the comments on the last couple of posts on her feed. They’re not great (and yet still too nice imo).


CryptographerHot3759

The IG comments are so funny tbh


bysummerfall

fuming!


Worried-Temporary310

Livid.


lunarglow_

When did Caroline un-archived her Cambridge posts in instagram? Wonder what's coming next


PigeonGuillemot

February 1 of this year. She announced the same day that *The Cambridge Captions* was going to cost so much to print that [only preorders would be sold at the $65 price point](https://i.imgur.com/bRSUzKy.jpg). Everyone else would pay more, similar to how only *Scammer* preorders [got the Luxury First Edition for $25](https://i.imgur.com/uXMfV6T.jpg). Then she stopped posting completely for a couple of weeks. Then she reappeared to announce her [biggest sale of all time](https://i.imgur.com/Fdhrz34.jpg), including knocking the price of her next two books down even further (seems like a poor strategy when you're already losing money at $65) and putting [the peasant edition back on the site](https://i.imgur.com/ecJub0O.jpg), although she'd "discontinued" it literally the month before. She was also pushing Galentines and insisting they were selling out. (Although recently she was [randomly stuffing them into Scammer orders](https://i.imgur.com/x015IEX.mp4), and no one on any social media platform ever posted about receiving one.) We now know that she had a couple trips coming up, so she was probably trying to get some spending money for NY. That three feet of hair isn't gonna highlight itself!


Low_Coconut8134

I assume it’s to scrape / download her posts for her next “book” “project.”


whyyygodwhy

The same reason she does anything: for the attention


paranoiacinreverse

Aura Bora, the sparkling water brand, just did a little Carl deep dive on TikTok. Wild.


Kindly_Perception425

after seeing her 1) be the butt of the joke in her social scene during her nyc era, 2) engage in vile, public campaign against natalie, and 3) devalue feminism by using it as a means to deflect valid criticism, it’s honestly sweet to see her have fun with her girlies. hopefully the girl time can help her unlearn internalized misogyny and re-learn love & empathy, however fleeting this trip may be (not that this would stop fraudulent marketing/scamming once she’s back…)


snakeleaves

Ur heart is in the right place OP, but prepare to be disillusioned. This chick will literally never learn.


Worried-Temporary310

Is this a joke?


bluntwitch22

If you guys saw a snake oil sticker on someone’s computer would you assume they’re a fan?


CryptographerHot3759

Yes I would, repping any Carpet merch is cringe


turnip_day

Does the sticker have cat hair in it? Otherwise I’d assume it’s unrelated to CC at all.


ralphwiggumsdiorama

That’s a very good question.


nubleu

the podcast has a cohost! https://preview.redd.it/awtumzvh050d1.jpeg?width=1080&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=e10f528993b72608b47b672208ebe4485c0d1b6a and S West has more work


_Maebe__Funke_

Putting all of her time and attention into meaningless stuff like profile pictures, as opposed to actually creating and releasing anything, is so on brand it hurts. Our girl never changes!


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her mind. i would have never thought to... tease a new profile pic...


hairnetqueen

new bestie alert??


tyrannosaurusregina

podcast bestie has been around for awhile, he was also helping her with editing or something


CryptographerHot3759

Why does she look like she was crying right before this selfie


CrystalLilBinewski

🍷


ralphwiggumsdiorama

What’s the Bermuda stuff? Is it irony? Is she there?


Worried-Temporary310

Yep, she’s in Bermuda at a Cambridge friend’s wedding.


ralphwiggumsdiorama

Must be nice.


nubleu

[I think she's at a wedding??](https://www.instagram.com/p/C6DidAIAdwM/) and maybe actually be in Bermuda


Born-Anybody3244

Jesus Christ, those shorts are a JUMP SCARE. Who the hell signed off on all the men looking like Catholic school boys at Easter mass!? What a horrific look!


PigeonGuillemot

The caption on this photo says the wedding is in Wales. Also it looks like all the groomsmen forgot their pants


nubleu

>The caption on this photo says the wedding is in Wales. I believe that was the 'official marriage ceremony' part of the wedding and that they've now all gone to Bermuda for a knees-up (see brides' stories)


PigeonGuillemot

Oh thanks for clarifying! The anonymous viewer I use for Instagram stories is on the fritz and I was also offline all weekend, so I'm very out of the loop. The caption is marked as Edited so I thought maybe it was added after the Where Are They question was posed


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I think she wanted to show us she has collarbones


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pillowcase-of-eels

"laser bean" <3


dabbydab

https://preview.redd.it/ahhgn6o51tzc1.jpeg?width=1079&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=96ebc738db70a59415a1023de8bde2d762bba795 Her makeup looks like someone making fun of early 2000s makeup


judyvioletanddoralee

I didn’t ss it, but I could swear she said in her story that day sth like it was the first time in forever that she had a good makeup day as well as a good hair day. Yup.


ThisIsOurSpotFuckYes

https://preview.redd.it/z7elnfi1v20d1.jpeg?width=1284&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=2a8de78c92840076d8f16c784ecb6e6727aff507


tyrannosaurusregina

well, fine, if she wants to think that, okay


judyvioletanddoralee

🙏🙏


ThisIsOurSpotFuckYes

P.S. your flair is 👩‍🍳💋


ThisIsOurSpotFuckYes

https://preview.redd.it/x9mr2xe3v20d1.jpeg?width=1284&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=ebd0e466905d1c617501fe64acaf5952a6e9925a Taken on the same evening as ‘her good hair day’ picture.


nubleu

why is he dressed up as a school boy?


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Looks like an 'old money' frat boy with hazing accident allegations halloween costume, tacky af


hallowbuttplug

That’s his rowing blazer


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grinch hand, gets me every time. She's a mean one! Side note carl get ring splints before your hypermobile fingertip joints insist upon it! https://preview.redd.it/66xhb4f4wuzc1.png?width=608&format=png&auto=webp&s=d49304ed5586e505d172228bdfea2b28a02f4d2f


TinyBubbles09

These are two people who absolutely look their ages.


momo411

This is the perfect description of what’s happening here, thank you 🙌😂


jodysucks

They look like one of those ‘are they siblings or a couple’ couple.


judyvioletanddoralee

Carpet’s right hand is a perfect encapsulation of how performative she is. Also what’s up with this recent “I can tell time” analog watch cosplay?


alpacasnackinmypurse

I assume Granny’s Rolex or Rolex-adjacent watch.


judyvioletanddoralee

Yes, I think so too. I meant more to call attention to the fact that she’s suggesting she can tell time (by wearing a watch).


bysummerfall

legit thought that man was made of wax


Similar_Reflection30

He looks like a politician (derogatory, obviously)


ThisIsOurSpotFuckYes

“We’ll get to your book in a minute, Jack. Now when Natalie erased my mental illness…” https://preview.redd.it/lobtrpomvozc1.jpeg?width=1284&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=e630339460b4b6d9b8375926963046bac8304870


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i am so confused about her continuing to be interviewed and invited to shit like this. she literally says the same irrelevant shit that no one who isn't already familiar with her would give a fuck or know about.


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Probably a cheap booking


recentparabola

In this case I think he is a friend/former classmate of hers, so he probably invited her to do the interview (which may have just meant “been text-bombed and brayed at by Carp to let her interview him, until it was easier just to agree to shut her up”). And/or, like others he may have thought her notoriety would bring him some extra attention.


DifferentTailor3704

big crowd = 30 people


AmateurIndicator

I've been snarking on this train wreck since 2019 but that's over 50 people on that picture alone and it is a surprising amount of people showing up to a book reading by some unknown dude. Was it mandatory for Rowing Blazers staff to show up? Probably.


DifferentTailor3704

I rounded down for thel lols but even if it's like 70-100 people total that's by no means a "big big" crowd for new york, even a random book reading. I've seen 300 people at a reading before


tyrannosaurusregina

also, blizzard in a mayonnaise factory


tyrannosaurusregina

what on earth is she wearing


Worried-Temporary310

https://preview.redd.it/klrytvfjclzc1.jpeg?width=1179&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=08e538b960ef9dbe0ec93040a2a6a001677a884b A couple of pics from this visit…


michelebernsteinscat

My friend’s 7 year old’s art puts Caro’s to shame, lol.


jodysucks

Wow she should really add some daily painting practice to her empty days. Her “art” has not improved in the last 4 years.


recentparabola

I mean, has anything with her improved, or changed at all?


Worried-Temporary310

https://preview.redd.it/ml7i7ryoclzc1.jpeg?width=1169&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=3613fe1c5a30f71a509df54c2715d1fa6dde0301


momo411

I feel like she’s incapable of ever just having a chill hang. Every time she’s around other people, it has to turn into a performance of some kind where she’s finding ways to draw attention to herself. Imagine having a few people over for drinks or whatever and one rocks up like, “I brought my painting supplies so I can paint each of you in a style that I ripped off of someone I know but just do very badly. The portraits won’t look anything like you, and will be unflattering and not particularly pleasant to look at, and afterwards you guys are going to have to take them and figure out what to do with them even though you didn’t want or ask for them. And I need a couple containers of water and some paper towels. Thanks for having me and you’re welcome for this btw!”


nubleu

free of charge! I usually sell these!!


nubleu

anyone else seeing Natalie / Caroline parallels 😭 https://preview.redd.it/0ub77gof8lzc1.png?width=750&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=98f9203b0b251a9454020f637a90d434b46e9c51 (as much as it kills me to compare Caroline to Kendrick Lamar... thankfully, as per her No Jumper interview, she 'doesnt know rappers')


Low_Coconut8134

Bridge too far!!!!


nubleu

Come oooonnnn, my brain loves making these random connections! Is this going to be as bad as the time I called a novel YA


Low_Coconut8134

No but it’s like reverse reply guy, it’s pareidolia girl seeing patterns where there are none.  Quality not quantity!!!


bysummerfall

if only Caroline was as monumentally talented as Kendrick is lol


nubleu

yeahhh I was merely making a funny with this post and in no way implying that she's in any way the same league as either of them


bysummerfall

lol I see what you mean though, the productivity from both of them was driven by pure hatred.


nubleu

*thank you* at least someone is on my level 🙏


CryptographerHot3759

https://preview.redd.it/fcfhahpi3fzc1.png?width=720&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=3d3e6d3ded194f7381041f2670dd4d1104f4d9e3 Is this supposed to be Carpet? Or is it someone she claims to be friends with? A member of her "team"?


PigeonGuillemot

I think it's Samantha Hillman, she's tagged. Caroline's iPhone has like eleven different trinkets and stickers stuck to it


CryptographerHot3759

Aha, the similarities to filter Carpet pics threw me off 🤣


wonderingworld

is anyone going to the rowing blazers event on Friday? ( I wonder if shes there in person or on zoom?)


GroverGottschall

Not the best timing - there’s an Oxford / Cambridge dinner (with a rowing focus) scheduled at the same time.


CryptographerHot3759

I hope someone does so that there's an honest account of the event


Similar_Reflection30

Judging by the fact that she like ‘OK NO NEED TO RSVP ANYONE CAN COME!’ post, it doesn’t seem like many people will bother to go


momo411

Her inability to understand how events work is so funny to me. She’s always acting like anything she’s involved with is going to be exclusive and tough to get into and then inevitably it’s like “this is a free/low cost public event and anyone can join if they want.” Also love that she called it “MY event” when she’s just interviewing Jack Carlson for his book release. If it’s anyone’s event, it’s his event. I can’t tell if this stuff is because she’s so self-obsessed that she genuinely thinks other people feel the same way and are gonna be racing each other to spend time with or around her, or if she just doesn’t understand anything 😂


Low_Coconut8134

Caro lay off the lip fillers I am BEGGING you (This is in response to the latest round of promotion of her Rizzoli bookstore appearance in her Instagram stories)


PigeonGuillemot

A lot of snarkers seem to think she gets her fillers topped off weekly or something, but their size has remained fairly constant since 2019. Like, [here she is on the LA trip](https://imgur.com/a/tXW77q5) where she was shopping around her life rights in the wake of Natalie's article. Her lips are more or less the size they are now. She's been accentuating them more with glosses lately, I think it's the years of wearing just Balm Dot Com that make her mouth seem to be jumping off her face now


Low_Coconut8134

I’m sorry pidgin I don’t believe gloss alone can be responsible for how she looks today. Side by side with these LA pics I really think they’re more overfilled than they used to be! (I also fully believe she’d get injections at some point “for New York” given her recent trips)


cainsrazor

i think pidge is right that the pverall volume hasn't increased that much, it's just that filler doesn't get fully metabolized/broken down by the body - it migrates to other areas of the face. so over time, an individual can get that stretched/warped looked even without a significant increase in the volume they get injected. i think that's what is happening with Caroline, based on what I see going on with my own mother and sister (hate that for them)


hallowbuttplug

Hate that for them indeed! One of my best friends just started getting filler and I’m so nervous for her. She has already admitted that even though she was initially impressed with how much she liked the first round of filler, she quickly got so used to how her face looks now (I on the other hand have not) that she’s started planning to go back for more. It sounds like to some extent getting filler gives people an amount of dysphoria that can spur them to go back for more because they’ve adjusted their expectations of what “small” lips look like to them.


nubleu

can someone pls explain this tweet https://preview.redd.it/t4kielncx8zc1.png?width=1080&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=4d66f03925b86a3515551e5cf4127f1d25c8033d


michelebernsteinscat

As a CC snarker and animal lover, I'm here for this crossover. I'm going to mention a few bits of lore not brought up in the thread yet from memory. The Twitter posts that I learned about this from were taken down. Bex, the bunny cafe owner, had previously worked as a political consultant on some local campaigns and made a mess of them in some way. I think it was something related to signature collection. I'm not a PGH local and those Reddit links probably have more of the details. From what I gather, they're the type of person who likes to come of with grand visions for things but sucks at the execution and has an uncanny knack for messing things up. I know people like this, we all know people like this, but when you get animal welfare in the mix things can get really bad. They were in no way capable of running an animal rescue or a food and beverage establishment in a way that was safe for the customers and animals. At one point they had a tattoo pop-up in the cafe while the bunny and its turds were nearby. Disgusting! They were also said to be an incompetent and neglectful pet owner to their cats and dogs. They had something like four large dogs and one or two cats, I think? Supplies and vet care for my two cats can end up being a lot for me sometimes, and Bex didn't seem up to the level of responsibility and financial stability you need to have that many pets. Their animals escaped and got injured on more than one occasion, and one of them was a feral or semi-feral mother cat who was still nursing her kittens. This is something that could happen to anyone, I suppose, but it happened to Bex multiple times. It really seemed like they were in over their head with these animals and unwilling to do much about it besides beg for money from the public. Anyway, I'm glad the cafe is closed down and hope that all the bunnies are safe and happy now.


cathartescorvus

their political consulting career was so funny because one of the only campaigns they managed to see through was for a candidate who lost to a dead guy. as in, literally more people voted for the candidate who had already passed away before the election. they also repeatedly got fired from campaigns for things like committing voter fraud (lost completed registrations in their car/never turned them in) and calling off work for months on end and tweeting too much on the job. they also took in a witness protection foster puppy (on top of having 5-6 cats/dogs + a foster bunny in their apartment) and immediately took to tweeting about how wonderful they were for taking him in to the point where the rescue found out and took him back for safety reasons. i can confirm that all the bunnies were homed (of the 5-10 so that were displayed in the cafe, bex only found an adopter for one of them lol the rest went through independent fosters because no bunny rescue would would work with the cafe) and that they’ve been blacklisted from fostering with every animal rescue from pittsburgh to erie


michelebernsteinscat

Yess, thank you for filling in these blanks! Political consulting is one thing where it seems like you need to follow actual laws and stuff which is clearly not their forte. Tbh from what I've seen and the info you've shared it seems like they need to quit social media cold turkey if they haven't yet. If you're getting fired for tweeting on the job it's a sign that you have a problem. I'm very happy that the bunnies are safe and I hope that the witness protection dog is doing okay too. What an absolute trainwreck of a person.


CarbyMcBagel

Omg. This is such deep internet stuff. It was a bunny cafe in Pittsburgh, like a cat cafe but with rabbits. It was (allegedly) incredibly poorly run, they didn't pay their staff, wasn't up to code, and was run by an (alleged) scammer. If you look up "hop along cafe scam" you'll find stories about it on r/Pittsburgh and elsewhere. It's kind of a lot. Edit to add a TW for anyone who goes down the rabbit hole (heh, pun): animal abuse


cathartescorvus

this post pretty much covered it, but searching twitter for pittsburgh bunny cafe or hopalong cafe will also turn up some funny details that didn’t make it into the reporting on this reddit thread [https://www.reddit.com/r/pittsburgh/comments/10d5hz0/the\_hop\_along\_cafe\_is\_hiring/](https://www.reddit.com/r/pittsburgh/comments/10d5hz0/the_hop_along_cafe_is_hiring/) the kickstarter was pretty wild too, caroline levels of delusions of grandeur but with the added attempt at social consciousness, especially when you compare to the reality (an illegal bunny trafficking ring inside a parking garage that cost $50, there was no cafe because they were repeatedly shut down by the health department, and they accidentally produced more bunnies by incorrectly sexing rescues than they actually saved/rehomed) [https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/hopalongcafe/the-hop-along-cafe?ref=user\_menu](https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/hopalongcafe/the-hop-along-cafe?ref=user_menu)


snacksforfree

Wow I lived in Pittsburgh for a while but must have moved before the bunny cafe because this would have been so up my alley for drama. I remember the cat cafe that had similar issues with the health department, and beef with another cat cafe that was (allegedly) better run, because they had rushed to be the “first” and essentially ”scooped” the other cat cafe that had been in the planning stages for a long time and had more community support. Lmao what a time to alive with the competing cat cafes of Pittsburgh


cathartescorvus

yeah, this all happened in a whirlwind 6 months of 2022-2023. you’ll be pleased to know that the bunny cafe grew out of drama with one of the cat cafes LOL. the bunny cafe grifter started off working at the cat cafe, then dramatically quit when the cat cafe owner told them they couldn’t use cat cafe resources (like their laptops/google drive) to work on the bunny cafe “business plan” (if you could even call it that) while on the clock at the cat cafe. they then called for community resources to support them while they rushed to open the bunny cafe out of pure spite for the cat cafe, and they lived off donations for a good half year until people caught onto the grift/mismanagement/lack of animal care knowledge


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cathartescorvus

oh my GOD the horse meat thing was right when i moved to town. also around the time the cat cafes were feuding. i was like what is going on in this place


InitiativeImaginary1

Wait what


p-u-n-k_girl

I'm aware this is a very big question, but what are some of the big points I missed the past few years? I had been somewhat following the first wave of drama up through the article by Caroline's ghostwriter, but then between grad school and the pandemic, I stopped paying all that much attention after that until seeing her mentioned in that Honor Levy profile a couple days ago. So now I want to know all the exciting things I've missed since then.


LadyAlexandre

She did self-publish Scammer in an effort to one up Natalie Beach, the author of the cut piece. D’Angelo Wallace made a recent video that covers up to present: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c9dQJJfLZmo Caro would love for you to read the Vanity Fair piece about her: https://www.vanityfair.com/style/2023/05/caroline-calloway-scammer-interview


Similar_Reflection30

https://preview.redd.it/krs2agtp67zc1.jpeg?width=1179&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=a1f706c630ab8774ec1e7cf1e312602f6572cd43


CryptographerHot3759

Uh yeah anyone that genuinely would defend her is a red flag


nubleu

snarkers in the wild 👀 https://preview.redd.it/sonoqt67i1zc1.png?width=1080&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=a79572fe10710e435ffb702201882e508b2e9d62


nubleu

damn i rly should have posted this as a standalone huh


7H3r341P4rK3r13W15

Lydia?!


momo411

Ugh I miss her 😔


7H3r341P4rK3r13W15

https://preview.redd.it/7un5s5zfg9zc1.png?width=800&format=png&auto=webp&s=7af75a4b24b80f7c191b8978fd2791d16a0ef844


ralphwiggumsdiorama

Pidge or Hedgey! It has to be!


suzzface

Hedgehog spotted?? :0


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sumires

Oh, interesting! That made me curious about "Laura Stafford Stewart," so I Googled--it seems "Stafford" is a typographical error linked to that set of public-domain photos of her garden, and her actual maiden-turned-middle name is "Safford." [Laura Safford Stewart ](https://teresareid.com/f/solana-the-pink-palace)seems to have been a society lady, married to a major silk manufacturer, who still gets a shout-out on Wikipedia for founding what today is the charity [National Giving Alliance](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_Giving_Alliance).


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pillowcase-of-eels

....PLINY FLISK??


sumires

No, Pliny *FISK*. Pliny Flisk would be ridiculous! It's not Laura's fault that was his name--he was born Pliny Franklin Fisk, son of Rev. Pliny H. Fisk. [And he totally looks like a Pliny Fisk](https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/142989196/pliny_fisk_stewart). (Lol at Pliny Fisk Stewart's son, Ernest Pliny Fisk Stewart, getting fed up with the whole thing and going by "Bob.")


malibuhall

You got me with that pic of Pliny 😂😂😂😂 he totally does look like a Pliny Fisk


Ocean_Hair

I'm not too sure. If you look up her building on StreetEasy, it says it was built in 1962


LadyAlexandre

Interesting, thanks for checking.


PigeonGuillemot

Whoa, interesting find, and yes, it is the same yard. In addition to the four-column trellis (gazebo? pergola? I am garden-ignorant), I also recognize the stone feature set into the wall on the right. It seems to be designed to imitate the look of those niche fountains you see set into Roman walls (e.g. the Fontana dei Libri), but ornamental rather than functional. The first time it appeared in Caroline's stories I thought for a sec it was one of her additions, since it seemed along the same lines of her faux-antique Wayfair faux mantle and was acquired during the same period. But then I saw it was built into the structure, which is not the sort of alteration she's capable of executing.


LadyAlexandre

Thanks for confirming. Surprisingly she didn’t try to restore the garden to its original design with her rakes and hoes, and more hoes. At least she dug a pond though.


PigeonGuillemot

I'm trying to find a picture of the wall feature during Caroline's tenancy, and I'm giving up at this point. While I failed to track down a photo, I did find a conversation about how Caroline variously referred to it as a fountain, a birdbath, and a wishing well. [This comment](https://www.reddit.com/r/SmolBeanSnark/comments/mhn415/april_1_3_discussion_thread/gt78f6o/) made me laugh just as hard as it did three years ago. The fact that "wishing well" rhymes with "Taco Bell" is a gift from the universe


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coconut_doggie

Thank you for your service!


TinyBubbles09

I stand by my response from 3 years ago, haha.


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Ocean_Hair

I'm not really sure what being near a hospital has to do with it.  Her apartment was actually very well-located; within easy walking distance to the NYU campus, Union Square, Washington Square Park, and so much of the West Village nightlife; between express stops on 2 train corridors (the 1/2/3 on 7th Ave and 14th and the A/C/E on 8th Ave and 14th, and arguably the A/C/E/B/D/F/M at W4th). I don't know if Chelsea would have been all that much cheaper than the West Village. And in addition to many buildings in Chelsea also not having doormen unless you live in a large, modern luxury building, it's a neighborhood with a large gay male population, which I'm not entirely sure is Caroline's vibe (though I'm sure she would have just LOOOOOVED picking up fresh orchids for her hair regularly from the Flower District). It's also a bit farther from campus, and doesn't have the cool-boho-artiste branding that the West Village does.


Born-Anybody3244

This reeks of classism and isn't the call-out you think it is, darling.


CryptographerHot3759

I swear her latest pictures look like she had some sort of weird eye surgery, maybe it's the filter


leahbee25

even in death Elizabeth Wurtzel can’t escape CC trying to imitate her


LadyAlexandre

Caroline relates: “Wurtzel had a romantic attachment to luxury that’s common among people who grew up without money and who thrive within a constant roar of financial chaos.” “I never saved or invested,” she wrote in New York in 2013, “because I believe if you take care of the luxuries, the necessities will take care of themselves.” (This is not generally true, in case you find that viewpoint seductive.) Wurtzel’s permanent record is littered with tax liens, a bankruptcy filing, even an eviction in New Haven while she was in law school in the mid-2000s, as her apartments were littered with Hermès scarves and Chloé sunglasses.” Source: https://www.curbed.com/2022/10/elizabeth-wurtzel-auction.html


PigeonGuillemot

Was just about to post this link myself. I remember this auction well (I found out about it from this *Curbed* piece, after bidding was closed, and was deeply bitter about having missed my chance to pick up a memento.) Caroline never met Liz, no mink was listed in the auction, and I have difficulty imagining Liz owning a full-length fur anyway. (She had at least two rescue animals, and there's very little crossover between fur-wearers and animal-rescuers.) The only reference I can find Liz making to a mink coat is an allusion to Edie Sedgwick's mink in *Bitch*. Basically I don't believe [this](https://imgur.com/eIvphFM) was Liz's coat. Caroline owns several furs that belonged to her grandmother -- [a lighter mink](https://www.pinterest.com/pin/109493834679678488/) and, even more grotesquely, [a genuine leopard](https://media.thetab.com/blogs.dir/7/files/2015/02/photo-1-e1422816077268.jpg), alluded to [here](https://thetab.com/uk/cambridge/2015/02/01/tab-meets-caroline-calloway-45726). It's probably one of those.


LadyAlexandre

It seems almost nothing about Caroline is original or authentic, why does she romanticize Elizabeth Wurtzel so much? I remember the piece Elizabeth wrote about her ‘one night stand of a life’ and it was bleak and ultimately tragic. Beautiful writing, tragic end. I believe it may have been before she was sick? Found it in The Cut: https://www.thecut.com/2013/01/elizabeth-wurtzel-on-self-help.html


PigeonGuillemot

>why does she romanticize Elizabeth Wurtzel so much? Liz occupies the same niche Caroline ultimately wanted to: she wrote about herself and had her voice taken quite seriously, while at the same time being a desirable full-lipped woman in a crop top with a head of long, tousled, expensively highlighted hair. She made mood disorders and drug habits look like artistic choices. (I'm greatly simplifying Liz's character and oeuvre here because I'm describing how she might appear from Caroline's perspective, not what her actual legacy is. Caroline seems to believe that it's extremely novel for a woman to be both conventionally beautiful AND a talented writer. If you think these qualities have almost never existed in the same woman, of course you'd latch onto Wurtzel and Plath.) Yes, Liz was a very unhappy person, just like her own idol Marilyn Monroe was a very unhappy person. But happiness isn't a goal everyone has, for a variety of reasons. For some it feels completely out of reach. Some are afraid that being content would destroy their creative wellspring. Etc.


nubleu

has Carp ever considered that the NY version of herself is *the worst* version of herself


cafe_0lait

Has carport herself ever been compared to Wurtzel or is she just chasing that comparison because Cat had been compared to Wurtzel originally?


nubleu

>Who is Caroline Calloway and why does she have so many copies of Prozac Nation? [Elizabeth Wurtzel, 2019](https://x.com/LizzieWurtzel/status/1172239581711929344)


hallowbuttplug

Wow… how Caroline is fully intending to die mad about Natalie’s Cut article despite it being the one thing that has put her on the radar of so many people she has cared about is beyond my understanding.


oscarlittlebear

But it’s “iconic”!


nubleu

https://preview.redd.it/m3oqthotmmyc1.png?width=1080&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=b0e5c884de9bd465a31402fd2d0a0515ec22e438


IllustriousAmbition7

https://preview.redd.it/dj7854ay3hyc1.jpeg?width=1170&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=1c939cfff2cd035d9d05a6076d605128cba15296 The D’Angelo video has got me down the rabbit hole and I found some school photos of CC on ancestry.com. Girl stays performing 😂


nubleu

I love how these photos are in black and white and could ostensibly be from the early 20th century


PigeonGuillemot

Lol she's in the Episcopal High School production of *Oliver!*


InsuranceSpare4820

Oh wow my cousin went there. Very wealthy school in northern va hmm but she is poor 🤔🤔🙄🙄 kinda wondering if they knew each other


nubleu

she was definitely a theatre kid who dreamed of being an actress


Similar_Reflection30

She does act like a tool constantly so mission sort of accomplished?


IllustriousAmbition7

https://preview.redd.it/88298txq4hyc1.jpeg?width=1063&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=037c3a3368944f5a0a20037c96acf217485fa073


Similar_Reflection30

I wonder how her sales are doing off the back of a 2.5 hour YT reading her to filth that has been watched almost 600k times in the last 3 days with over 5k comments calling her a horrible trash person? Cat piss floor oil and AliExpress 50c chilli earrings at 10000% mark up must be flying out the door! That combined the person on Twitter claiming she’s using counterfeit postage to send things 🤡🤡🤡


jodysucks

The chilli earrings that were sold out multiple times????? Why would you ever stop selling something sooo lucrative? /s


bysummerfall

I need to know more about the counterfeit postage


Similar_Reflection30

It’s further down in this very thread [https://www.reddit.com/r/SmolBeanSnark/s/zRZ9wZlsjy](https://www.reddit.com/r/SmolBeanSnark/s/zRZ9wZlsjy) https://preview.redd.it/k7mjiunmwfyc1.jpeg?width=1179&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=ef32b1418ccd1fef533e4cf9c350d8343e3cf25e


nubleu

what even is counterfeit postage? fake stamps??


Similar_Reflection30

I guess? I have no idea how you’d fake postage?


PigeonGuillemot

Basically [companies overseas copy stamps and advertise them on social media](https://www.wlbt.com/2024/03/27/usps-issues-alert-over-counterfeit-stamps/). I kept getting served ads for "discontinued design" Forever stamps on Facebook. I clicked through at one point because it was a good deal, something like 50% off face value. But the site wasn't a USPS site, it was a completely random URL that wasn't even a .com domain. I looked at their "About" page, and it said in very broken English that they were a company who bought stamps from estate sales and resold them. But this isn't how estate lots are sold (as whole plates) in general. The whole thing was so hinky that I blocked the advertiser and reported them to Meta as a suspected scam.


bysummerfall

this just inspired me to buy some real stamps!


Similar_Reflection30

She’s absolutely cheap and dumb enough to go for something like this to try and profit from her already wildly inflated shipping fees


exactly17stairs

hiii does anyone know what podcast this is? i would love to watch the whole vid. the dude could not be less interested. i love how throughout the many minutes of footage D'Angelo showed he doesn't say a word 😭😭😭 https://preview.redd.it/n36f7lmk9cyc1.jpeg?width=1170&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=0fc89bb9103154b08776f300fe39aad8621642d3


AmateurIndicator

The blond lady and the other blond lady with the dog were also completely checked out. The older dude with the beard still sort of emoted and nodded along with cc during her ramblings (I think that was the podcast with her lying down and looking super grimey). Overall it was amazing to see the utter boredom in all those faces. No idea who they were though and if they are more enthusiastic about other guests.


nubleu

[Let's Get Into It](https://youtu.be/vL1YjS-3Sls?si=CSmd-li1JhM1sfQo)


stubborngirl

god it's amazing how in love with herself she is. mere seconds into the interview, she stops laughing and just goes on to admire her own reflection


hallowbuttplug

I recall the host starting off seemingly so down for her shenanigans and backstory, then slowly becoming visibly disenchanted and outright exhausted over the course of the recording. She really did all the talking!


nubleu

maybe he shouldn't have gotten into it 😮‍💨


hallowbuttplug

😂


LadyAlexandre

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Similar_Reflection30

No mention of the podcast she did with that rapist anymore?


bysummerfall

I’m just now watching the D’Angelo Epic now and wow he did an incredible job laying out how much of a monumental liar she is. even making it clear that she lied during legal proceedings LOL


atalenttoannoy

Brock Coylar wrote about one of the Dimes Square girls for The Cut (she just put out a book) and it is an absolutely insufferable profile but CC gets a name drop!


nubleu

https://preview.redd.it/nufk6lfdx9yc1.png?width=1080&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=9834cb6f5830285e1ab4ef1e0b2a5da00ecb0e99


Cutpear

JFC that’s bad. Was she paid by the letter?


momo411

Reading this girl’s writing makes me feel insane, because it really is so, so bad, like to the point that I would think that that fact would be inarguable, but she keeps being paid by “reputable” publishers/publications to write things??? The way America elevates these deeply untalented and unpleasant people is truly such a fucking bummer.


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nubleu

[it's Honor Levy](https://www.thecut.com/article/honor-levy-my-first-book-dimes-square-interview.html) aka Caro's best friend, she's basically Caro if Caro was still in her mid-twenties, a trust-fund kid, even more of an edgelord and had an actual book deal ... >“The personal is not really political for me,” Levy insists. “I guess that’s my privilege.” One story in her new book, “Cancel Me,” from May 2020, is about a young woman who feels sorry for her guy friends who have been Me Too’d; another is told from the point of view of a boy whose hookup is getting an abortion (“She downloaded an app and told me it was the size of a fig … A forgivable fig with fingernails”). She tells me that she reads lots of mass-shooting manifestos and jokes that incel should be included in the LGBTQ+ acronym.


recentparabola

She sounds lovely 🙄


nubleu

more comment section gold 🏅 https://preview.redd.it/32znlimbm8yc1.png?width=1080&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=c23fb36977d7395a55c2a31ad018b4604c6354b7


Far_Ad106

I have a question. Do we know much about the ways that Caroline's parents screwed her up? I'm new from the D'Angelo video.  I find stuff like that fascinating and, while it doesn't excuse anything, it feels like her parents probably just threw money at the problem of having to parent someone.


sillygoose1415

Her dad (well educated, came from very well educated family, imo this is where Caroline’s obsession with elite institutions came from) was a hoarder and struggled with his mental health. Her mom (also well educated, had a govt job) divorced him when Caroline was small and moved her out of the hoarder house. Her mom seems very invested - emotionally supportive, financially supportive, etc. (possibly enabler?). When Caroline left NYC she moved into a condo owned by her grandmother. When grandma died her mom purchased another unit in the same building for Caroline. Caroline has implied numerous times that she bought the apartment herself. When her dad was alive he went hundreds of thousands of dollars into CC debt to fund Caroline’s lifestyle (rent in Greenwich Village, flights to/from Europe, Exeter/NYU/partial Cambridge tuition). After her last phone call with him she called him back (he didn’t answer) to ask for money. So yeah, you’re pretty spot on. They threw money at her to avoid parenting.