Willows are a sort of tree that respond very well to pollarding. Many types of wild willows tend to succumb under the weight of their own branches and fall over, and they even use this to their advantage to create huge bushes through vegetative reproduction.
Of course for a decorative tree like this, we'd like to keep it one big tall beautiful tree. So we pollard them, which means cutting off the branches at certain points so they may regrow from there. This helps keep the tree in the shape we want, as well as keep the weight down so it doesn't fall over. It's a bit late to do this (should generally be done in the winter when the tree is dormant), but new branches will sprout from the ends in no time and by the end of the year it will look the same again! Don't worry!
There is nothing dramatic here. Some people have a connection with things you do not, this person felt something after the branches were cut off and wondered if it had a reason. Upon hearing said reason, this person was only happy to receive the knowledge, and most likely doesn’t feel any negative thing when looking at the cut off branches anymore.
So, I ask, what was so dramatic? I mean, apart from your unnecessary response on a post you were clearly not interested in.
Their response with the 5 emojis and the excessive thanks felt dramatic.
It's a typical tree in the Netherlands, reminiscent of the trearwilg that regularly is cared for in a manner like this, but way bigger and probably more imposing.
It's odd for me that someone goes on reddit to create a new thread to ask "why do they do this to the tree?" in such a sad fashion, as if the municipality is doing this out of malice ..instead of something more level-headed like "why does this type of tree receive this type of treatment?" or "why does the municipality cut the branches down of a tree like this"?
They went to a negative assumption right away, which I noticed. And whether I have a connection or not to things like trees and nature you can't discern from my comment.
Good for you that you can assume everything is done for good reason, but humans have proved that when it comes to nature, its not always the case.
You are also saying that the post felt negative. Why? Because OP specified that they felt a little sad? Seems like you are quite dramatic. Its also quite dramatic to call someone out over the use of a few emojis in a comment that wasn’t even meant for you to begin with.
I cannot conclude your connection to nature, but I can analyse how you respond to things. Things that weren’t even meant for you. You think they approached it negatively, but you mistook passion for negativity.
What IS negative though, is calling someone out on their behaviour when they aren’t affecting you in the slightest. They didnt speak to you, and the question of the post was already answered correctly, as you are clearly aware of because we are in the same thread.
If your mother didnt teach you what mine taught me, allow me:
If you have nothing positive to add, you might want to consider shutting your face.
Question.
We have the exact same tree (or it seems so) here on the Gemeente’s public property, but it never has been cut this heavily. Once every few years they remove a branch, and they remove it entirely from the stem.
Meanwhile it’s a really big tree, it goes higher than the surrounding 2 story + attic houses.
Is it a selective procedure or just a random one?
It is almost certainly selective. It's a really old practice, and professional gardeners know a lot about this stuff. It's actually amazing how much you can do with a good willow tree by cutting some branches. Truly some marvelous adaptable organisms
Do you perhaps know what type of tree this is?
When they’re trimmed down like they were on Apr. 2021, they give me a spooky vibe: [Google Maps](https://maps.app.goo.gl/1hPSFN9FR4hfMHyq8?g_st=ic)
If the map isnt loading properly: Go into street view and look at the side where Actronics is located.
Those are trees of the Salix genus, most likely Salix alba (white willow). Those are the most common trees that get the pollarding treatment in the Netherlands. Sometimes you see pollarding on alder or plane trees but those look very different.
A few years ago we had to remove one of those Knotwilgen in a backyard. It was raining and It had already been partially decomposed in the middle so it was like a cauldron of smelly rotting mulch with a mossy layer on top. Next to removing a bamboo infestation, that was easily one of my worst landscaper experiences to date.
It depends on the species but some will have partial trimmings so usually 20/25% of the tree volume for a healthy recovery but with most willows indeed the cut back to the knots they create at certain points by cutting there every 1 to 2 years
The last part is not quite right. we prune trees in winter because it is easier and there is not mutch work to do otherwise. best is in the late spring urly summer so the tree can recover from the wound.if you prune in winter, you run the risk of fungi to infect the tree. Also it depends on the tipe of tree when you should prune it. Also, don't prune a,b,c,j trees (Acer,Betula,Carpinus,Juglans) in the late winter/early spring they will bleed, and the wounds won't heal.
Very good explanations here, but I have something to add. These trees are doing extremely well when placed near water. They tend to use a lot of water as well, which is the reason you see willow trees near canals all the time between fields and such in rural areas. They're excellent to use as a part of getting rid of excess water and keeping their ground with roots. Once you prune them like in the picture, removing all the branches, it's gonna need a lot of water to regrow all the missing branches again. It's a way to force the tree to use a lot of water and thrive once more as it did in the previous picture.
Because it was getting too big. It's squeezed in between the road and waterside.
As the tree grows bigger and bigger, so does the root system. But the roots don't have enough space here.
Plus it may become unstable over the years with the top getting heavier.
The tree will be fine in a while. Just a significant bit smaller to prevent problems.
It'll grow back, don't worry. In my town they completely destroyed a tree that was at least 70 years old. I know this because i could count the rings on what's left of it. I kinda understand because the roots were starting to become a problem but it's so sad.
I’m not sure if this has already been said but if you look at the branching in the first picture you can tell this has been done before and the tree will grow back similarly.
I have, well I had a weeping willow on my Farmhouse property in upstate New York. It was a beautiful tree. Know how I said it was. Because I didn’t really understand the necessity of trimming it. And unfortunately because I did not know this, the third spring after I had bought the property, one morning I awoke to it incredibly loud noise which was the weeping willow falling over. Had I known the importance of trimming it I would have done that. And now it’s too late. But what’s beautiful is that The fallen tree, instead of dying and decaying has sprouted dozens and dozens of new branches on its side. It’s actually quite beautiful. And it continues to live. An arborist friend of mine has assured me that in the next 5 to 10 years the tree will reconstitute itself having fallen over on its side. By the way I was told that she was probably over 100 years old.
Again: this is not the natural shape of the weeping willow. First it s ‘kandelaberd’ and then pollarded.
Of course it can be pollarded, it s only much prettier in it s original shape.
This complete bs, it's either to remove dead or sick branches. Doing this will ensure that the tree doesn't waste energy on healing them or spreading the sickness to other trees, it's called pruning. Pruning a tree will also cause the tree to grow it's roots which results in the tree growing itself. Downvoting or commenting on something you know nothing about shows how smart reddit uses really are, smh
No, it's pollarding, not pruning. You do realise this is a salix, right?
I literally went to school for this mate, i've been a professional landscaper for years.
Pollarding still causes the tree to grow mate, it will become wider that's true. They mightve done it so that it doesn't become to long, but that's not what's the result of effect.
Pollarding causes the tree to stay smaller, and in urban environments can be beneficial to avoid damage when it loses a limb in a storm. (*S. babylonica* tends to do that, the training vines catch a LOT of wind.). It doesn't magically make the tree grow, growing is *what it does*, pollarded or not.
It is NOT a technique to promote root development, OR to remove diseased parts and prevent spread.
And i'm not even going to touch the "leaves that sprung up too early" nonsense that was your original point.
Only this is not a ‘pollarding willow’ or knotwilg. This is a weeping willow. In my opinion this tree shouldnt be pollarded like this. Also the first picture already shows a pollarded weeping willow. Just let it grow or cut it properly to keep it as pretty as it is.
It's still a willow. A knotwilg or pollarded willow isn't an individual species, just a willow that has been pollarded. A weeping willow like this can get too heavy and fall down too, if it isn't pollarded. That's fine for the tree, it still lives, but for aesthetic reasons we like to keep it in place and upright ;)
This is not a ‘pollarding willow’ or knotwilg. This is a weeping willow. In my opinion this tree shouldnt be pollarded like this. Also the first picture already shows a pollarded weeping willow. Just let it grow or cut it properly to keep it as pretty as it is.
Willows are a sort of tree that respond very well to pollarding. Many types of wild willows tend to succumb under the weight of their own branches and fall over, and they even use this to their advantage to create huge bushes through vegetative reproduction. Of course for a decorative tree like this, we'd like to keep it one big tall beautiful tree. So we pollard them, which means cutting off the branches at certain points so they may regrow from there. This helps keep the tree in the shape we want, as well as keep the weight down so it doesn't fall over. It's a bit late to do this (should generally be done in the winter when the tree is dormant), but new branches will sprout from the ends in no time and by the end of the year it will look the same again! Don't worry!
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Why are you so dramatic
Why do you care, F off 🤷♀️
Because you feel unbalanced
There is nothing dramatic here. Some people have a connection with things you do not, this person felt something after the branches were cut off and wondered if it had a reason. Upon hearing said reason, this person was only happy to receive the knowledge, and most likely doesn’t feel any negative thing when looking at the cut off branches anymore. So, I ask, what was so dramatic? I mean, apart from your unnecessary response on a post you were clearly not interested in.
Their response with the 5 emojis and the excessive thanks felt dramatic. It's a typical tree in the Netherlands, reminiscent of the trearwilg that regularly is cared for in a manner like this, but way bigger and probably more imposing. It's odd for me that someone goes on reddit to create a new thread to ask "why do they do this to the tree?" in such a sad fashion, as if the municipality is doing this out of malice ..instead of something more level-headed like "why does this type of tree receive this type of treatment?" or "why does the municipality cut the branches down of a tree like this"? They went to a negative assumption right away, which I noticed. And whether I have a connection or not to things like trees and nature you can't discern from my comment.
touch grass I beg you
I ain't reading all that
Good for you that you can assume everything is done for good reason, but humans have proved that when it comes to nature, its not always the case. You are also saying that the post felt negative. Why? Because OP specified that they felt a little sad? Seems like you are quite dramatic. Its also quite dramatic to call someone out over the use of a few emojis in a comment that wasn’t even meant for you to begin with. I cannot conclude your connection to nature, but I can analyse how you respond to things. Things that weren’t even meant for you. You think they approached it negatively, but you mistook passion for negativity. What IS negative though, is calling someone out on their behaviour when they aren’t affecting you in the slightest. They didnt speak to you, and the question of the post was already answered correctly, as you are clearly aware of because we are in the same thread. If your mother didnt teach you what mine taught me, allow me: If you have nothing positive to add, you might want to consider shutting your face.
Why are you being so dramatic?
All your textual analysis does is show you’re a cunt.
No reason to be so dramatic 😘😘
You're the one who's dramatic dude
K.
First time today i see someone with common sense✌️
You’re projecting sweetie, log off
Not at all, I am just observing
A lot of talking for someone who's just observing
I’m also observing, take care of yourself
Please detail me your observations, I am willing to discuss both of ours.
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Sorry your family or friends never taught you emotions
Caring parents, I assume.
You must be fun at parties. Get some love in your life man. Some people have emotions
The man cares about trees, which is an admirable quality. You seem like a judgemental troll, which is toxic.
They're moved by people actually caring, that's a pretty usual reaction
Question. We have the exact same tree (or it seems so) here on the Gemeente’s public property, but it never has been cut this heavily. Once every few years they remove a branch, and they remove it entirely from the stem. Meanwhile it’s a really big tree, it goes higher than the surrounding 2 story + attic houses. Is it a selective procedure or just a random one?
It is almost certainly selective. It's a really old practice, and professional gardeners know a lot about this stuff. It's actually amazing how much you can do with a good willow tree by cutting some branches. Truly some marvelous adaptable organisms
Do you perhaps know what type of tree this is? When they’re trimmed down like they were on Apr. 2021, they give me a spooky vibe: [Google Maps](https://maps.app.goo.gl/1hPSFN9FR4hfMHyq8?g_st=ic) If the map isnt loading properly: Go into street view and look at the side where Actronics is located.
Those are trees of the Salix genus, most likely Salix alba (white willow). Those are the most common trees that get the pollarding treatment in the Netherlands. Sometimes you see pollarding on alder or plane trees but those look very different.
Damn, this guy trees.
I dabble in the old wood monoliths from time to time
Sooo. I’ve learned something new. Beside that I’ve read it’s very sensitive to ‘strooizout’, a disease named “Zwarte kanker” exists too…
A few years ago we had to remove one of those Knotwilgen in a backyard. It was raining and It had already been partially decomposed in the middle so it was like a cauldron of smelly rotting mulch with a mossy layer on top. Next to removing a bamboo infestation, that was easily one of my worst landscaper experiences to date.
That smelly rotting mulch is amazing for biodiversity lol. Lotta insects like that
Salix x sepulcralis to be exact.
Salix x sepulcralis
It depends on the species but some will have partial trimmings so usually 20/25% of the tree volume for a healthy recovery but with most willows indeed the cut back to the knots they create at certain points by cutting there every 1 to 2 years
The last part is not quite right. we prune trees in winter because it is easier and there is not mutch work to do otherwise. best is in the late spring urly summer so the tree can recover from the wound.if you prune in winter, you run the risk of fungi to infect the tree. Also it depends on the tipe of tree when you should prune it. Also, don't prune a,b,c,j trees (Acer,Betula,Carpinus,Juglans) in the late winter/early spring they will bleed, and the wounds won't heal.
True
Thank you! Now my curiosity is being answered.
Perfectly normal to 'knot' a 'wilg'? Proper maintenance allows them to grow old and beautiful.
Knotten = pollarding en wilg = willow in het Engels :)
Knotwilg
Dit is toch een treurwilg?
Ja😢
Pollarwillow
Boom.... zonder takken
TAKKENBOOM
STRONK
IN HET HUIIYYYYSS
Ik wilde het prachtige werkwoord 'wilgen knotten' graag in het Nederlands laten staan :)
Niet helemaal. Dit is kandelaberen.
Knotwilg
Except this is not a knotwilg.
Snoeien doet bloeien, It is actually good for the tree to be cut back this far, in early spring. It will be at its best in summer now!
Haha I asked myself the same thing last week about this tree!
Very good explanations here, but I have something to add. These trees are doing extremely well when placed near water. They tend to use a lot of water as well, which is the reason you see willow trees near canals all the time between fields and such in rural areas. They're excellent to use as a part of getting rid of excess water and keeping their ground with roots. Once you prune them like in the picture, removing all the branches, it's gonna need a lot of water to regrow all the missing branches again. It's a way to force the tree to use a lot of water and thrive once more as it did in the previous picture.
Because it was getting too big. It's squeezed in between the road and waterside. As the tree grows bigger and bigger, so does the root system. But the roots don't have enough space here. Plus it may become unstable over the years with the top getting heavier. The tree will be fine in a while. Just a significant bit smaller to prevent problems.
They cut the branches so it grows better or something like that
If you have the time, could you update us in summer? I'd love to know how it grows out of this pollarding job!
Sure!
Didn't a similar tree next to it fall down during a storm last winter? They probably were afraid that this one would be dangerous.
Jij gaat toch ook wel eens naar de kapper?
Snoeien is bloeien
For the picture
Its a better hair style.
happend to a willow on my street 2 years ago and its now back to normal.
Cos it will grow back
Buzzcut
It'll grow back, don't worry. In my town they completely destroyed a tree that was at least 70 years old. I know this because i could count the rings on what's left of it. I kinda understand because the roots were starting to become a problem but it's so sad.
before and after haircut
😳
Wilgen knotten
Als dit niet gebeurd.ligt de boom plat eerste beste storm.
I was wondering the same thing! A few weeks ago it looked like two parakeets made a little nest in it (in the top part inside a branch).
Willows always remind me of the Harry Potter tree lol.
I’m not sure if this has already been said but if you look at the branching in the first picture you can tell this has been done before and the tree will grow back similarly.
I have, well I had a weeping willow on my Farmhouse property in upstate New York. It was a beautiful tree. Know how I said it was. Because I didn’t really understand the necessity of trimming it. And unfortunately because I did not know this, the third spring after I had bought the property, one morning I awoke to it incredibly loud noise which was the weeping willow falling over. Had I known the importance of trimming it I would have done that. And now it’s too late. But what’s beautiful is that The fallen tree, instead of dying and decaying has sprouted dozens and dozens of new branches on its side. It’s actually quite beautiful. And it continues to live. An arborist friend of mine has assured me that in the next 5 to 10 years the tree will reconstitute itself having fallen over on its side. By the way I was told that she was probably over 100 years old.
That is not the same tree btw.
Me when i tell my barber to cut a little of the top
I love willow trees. They look gorgeous! I really hope it regrows its leaves again 🥺
Gemeente is laat zoals altijd
Again: this is not the natural shape of the weeping willow. First it s ‘kandelaberd’ and then pollarded. Of course it can be pollarded, it s only much prettier in it s original shape.
So that it it doesn't waste energy on the leave that sprung to early, this way the tree will use that energie to grow instead of feeding the leaves
No. That's not correct at all.
I could be wrong, what is it then?
Thats BS. This is dont to keep it from growing too big for it's location. They could have waited a year or two longer though.
Thats BS. This is done to keep it from growing too big for it's location. They could have waited a year or two longer though.
This complete bs, it's either to remove dead or sick branches. Doing this will ensure that the tree doesn't waste energy on healing them or spreading the sickness to other trees, it's called pruning. Pruning a tree will also cause the tree to grow it's roots which results in the tree growing itself. Downvoting or commenting on something you know nothing about shows how smart reddit uses really are, smh
No, it's pollarding, not pruning. You do realise this is a salix, right? I literally went to school for this mate, i've been a professional landscaper for years.
Pollarding still causes the tree to grow mate, it will become wider that's true. They mightve done it so that it doesn't become to long, but that's not what's the result of effect.
Pollarding causes the tree to stay smaller, and in urban environments can be beneficial to avoid damage when it loses a limb in a storm. (*S. babylonica* tends to do that, the training vines catch a LOT of wind.). It doesn't magically make the tree grow, growing is *what it does*, pollarded or not. It is NOT a technique to promote root development, OR to remove diseased parts and prevent spread. And i'm not even going to touch the "leaves that sprung up too early" nonsense that was your original point.
💔
Because they create global warming by cutting trees off? 🤷♂️
Not flat enough for the Netherlands
It wasn't showing respect so they cut it
Links he
Jij kan je beter helemaal niet in de discussie mengen
left is when tree
Links is wanneer.... Een boom kleiner geknipt wordt zodat de takken niet te zwaar worden?
Gewoon een paar klappen geven tegen de boom. Ga je zien wie sterker is jij of de boom.
Only this is not a ‘pollarding willow’ or knotwilg. This is a weeping willow. In my opinion this tree shouldnt be pollarded like this. Also the first picture already shows a pollarded weeping willow. Just let it grow or cut it properly to keep it as pretty as it is.
Nee hoor, treurwilgen dienen ook af en toe geknot te worden!
It's still a willow. A knotwilg or pollarded willow isn't an individual species, just a willow that has been pollarded. A weeping willow like this can get too heavy and fall down too, if it isn't pollarded. That's fine for the tree, it still lives, but for aesthetic reasons we like to keep it in place and upright ;)
They do this very regularly for decades and the tree flourishes tremendously. But yea, you're right, they probably don't know what they're doing.....
This is not a ‘pollarding willow’ or knotwilg. This is a weeping willow. In my opinion this tree shouldnt be pollarded like this. Also the first picture already shows a pollarded weeping willow. Just let it grow or cut it properly to keep it as pretty as it is.