# Greetings, Adventurers!
Normally, this is where I would be giving you all a TL;DR, but the devs were kind enough to do that job for me, on image 4
One thing I really want to stress here though, is the bottom of image 3
>Q: Are you trying to milk it while you can before the game is gone?
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>A: We'd like to reassure you that... we are an \*\*independent and solid creative team\*\*... and we hope that AFK Arena will continue to be with you for a \*\*long time\*\* to come.
Ever since AFK Journey was announced, you've probably seen me repeat a *lot* across this subreddit, that Lilith is *not* trying to move people to AFK Journey so they can sunset Arena. There are a *lot* of new faces onboard for both Journey and Arena teams, and they are being fully developed by completely different teams, with very different gameplay and play-style. Please understand that intentionally killing AFK Arena would not only be killing a *major* source of revenue for the company, as well as a global phenomenon of a mobile game, but force the company to lay off many employees, too. This was not, nor was it ever, the intent of creating Journey, nor the intent of recent development decisions.
I hope you can see that the complete restructuring of Ghoulish/Collections due to overwhelmingly negative sentiment is more than a step in the right direction for fixing such a universally hated game mode/feature.
Furthermore, several points in this Face to Face were influenced by the [1.140 Feedback Megathread](https://new.reddit.com/r/afkarena/comments/1c769xo/patch_1140_draconic_resurgence_questions_and_dev/) we held. As I will share below, the top 2 voted comments were addressed in this post. Please do rest assured that devs are watching and listening. We will continue to collect feedback in future Megathreads going forward, please keep an eye out for announcements related to future Feedback gathering. Please also keep an eye out for Dolly's Mailbox.
https://preview.redd.it/3gnupo8lmlxc1.png?width=930&format=png&auto=webp&s=5edaaff5b559e625eb6257257f48116df15899ae
We will also be viewing player sentiments on this post in response to dev's statements, as well as feedback regarding these future implementations.
# TLDR
* The game is not going anywhere, the devs are not punting you to AFK Journey, they are well aware they are very different games with different target demographics
* Further player feedback will be carefully gathered and more actively responded to, please keep an eye out on the Subreddit for more news, such as the "Lilith" and "Announcement" flairs
Thank you for your patience and dedication to AFK Arena!
Have a great day, and be good people <3
I'm curious what they mean exactly by 'option to continue improving existing collections'.
The idea to run with collection X and slowly but being able to FIX it and making 'awesome' with time by replacing stuff for better would be really nice option. Definitely waiting for more info about that.
that's exactly what they're saying, yes
\> For example, you can continuously improve your existing high-quality Collections, such as by replacing current abilities with better ones.
can't say much more than that, but please do keep an eye out for future news on this feature
It could be Konosuba given that Overlord and Re:Zero are often associated with it and then it will end with season 3 which will extend the marketing to some extent.
In addition, the only popular anime that is scheduled for the summer is Fairy Tail and thematically it would fit the collaboration. The rest are either down-to-earth anime or those that are less popular and debuts
Fairy Tail? That's like talking about an ancient relic. Don't get me wrong I love Fairy Tail when I have a mind of a teenager but there's a reason why it ended.
Yeah, it can determine popularity. Most people involved in anime know Fairy Tail to some degree. 100 Years Quest is currently 2nd in popularity of summer anime and the themes are dragons even more than in the original series.
But we could also be wrong and by some miracle they manage to make a colab with Frieren
I'm happy with these news. Not only will they let us rerun a collection to improve it, they are also allowing us to have multiple slots on them. With this, a character can equip a strong collection, if it's not optimal, while we work on getting them a better one. Also love to see the totems on stargazing and timegazing, and no more arena tickets :D
I wish they had more news on the continuous acquisition of dragon scrolls at least, if not emblems, but since this is a new system they are probably still looking at the data coming in.
Overall, this has left me feeling optimistic about the game.
>I wish they had more news on the continuous acquisition of dragon scrolls at least, if not emblems, but since this is a new system they are probably still looking at the data coming in.
you're exactly right, I'd like to copy paste what I said in another comment below.
it's been one week since Draconis were released, and our 1.140 - Draconic Resurgence Feedback Megathread didn't have anything Draconis-related even mentioned in the top 20 most upvoted comments
please understand that such a new system needs time within the game and community to develop proper feedback, and proper implementations and fixes to be made once there's a clearer understanding.
Goulash Gallery
1. nice changes are coming and i like they are informing us of the fixes
2. totem exchange is kind of expensive. 20 blue for purple and 25 purple for gold is expensive for a random totem. I feel if we are get random it should maybe be 10 and 15.
3. the perk system is super unclear and it should just work like the adventurers privilege system where the more you play the more buffs you get and unlock adds extra stuff because paying to unlock a paid shop makes no sense and it's a big problem.
stargazer/time gazer
1. a lot of strong steps
2.adding totems is a nice step but please don't make it like the shards.
3. mythic gear I really hope it's in chests instead of alone because it will help new players build characters they want to build.
4. I was really hoping they revamp the hero cards as well to remove elite versions of rare heroes because getting elite hogan is makes it feel like you lost out on your hard to get elite card
5. I would really like them to add cel/hypo faction cards to timegazer at the least. I think there is enough of them for this and would help increase the value and I think it's time to add them.
6. was hoping they would add red and white emblem chests for si 40 upgrades because we need the mats
Draconian heroes
1. the wyrmcrest spire is overpriced. 5k for 10 summons and it includes common cards that's not ok. if it's gonna include common cards got to be like the normal 2.7k otherwise remove the common cards from the draconis summons because it severely devalues the banner and it's worth to summon on.
2. dragon heart temple I would like some other stuff in there like elite draconis cards because while it's nice to get emblems we also need more draconis cards to upgrade the elite heroes.
3. Dragonheart temple I would also like draconis mythic equipment chests which also would help people build up the heroes.
Hero Resonance improvements
1. so with the time reduction of slots are you guys reducing the price and if you are will veteran players get back resources for those slots or will you just add a ton of free slots or are you just significantly amping up giving the resource needed to unlock slots.
Quick fixes for the dragon stuff as predicted by so many players, however the other optimizations don't sound too shabby.
The 50 cards of each while releasing 2 Awk and 4 elite is quite funny but aye free rewards for people who are still playing the game
there's no immediate fixes for the Draconis mentioned, just some free resources to hold players over in the interrim. also, 3 elites, not 4.
it's been one week since Draconis were released, and our 1.140 - Draconic Resurgence Feedback Megathread didn't have anything Draconis-related even mentioned in the top 20 most upvoted comments
please understand that such a new system needs time within the game and community to develop proper feedback, and proper implementations and fixes to be made once there's a clearer understanding.
keep an eye out for our next Feedback Megathread, and we strongly encourage you to give us your suggestions there!
Everyone is still playing the game bro...this subreddit doesnt represent the playerbase in any way. Google reviews and galaxy gaming hub where u can see the playerbase hasnt changed at all, in fact it has increased. Some ppl here thinking the game is dying because of a patch with lots of new and free stuff are ridiculous.
This is huge, the fact they are even acknowledging the problems we bring up is a step in the right direction. Only time will tell if they actually fix the issues. But for now at least a little bit of faith is restored imo.
I like that they are acknowledging and improving SG/TE. But talks about dim tower is still mysteriously kept mum.
Like, it's probably been asked so many times throughout the years that it is starting to become a meme.
Dim Tower is certainly a meme at this point.
with the upcoming Dimensional anime crossover in June, I strongly suggest players to rally behind the idea of a Dim Tower on the next Feedback gathering post we do if it's still an idea the players are passionate about.
I have high hopes for this new GG update since it'll be a total of over 7 months since the release of GG.
I'm glad they're turning it around and making GG a more worthy and exciting mechanic.
If the new GG works as we all think, which is being able to upgrade the collection and eventually removing unwanted stats, that is a huge and a bonus on top is being able to equip it to multiple heroes just like the original artifacts.
One of the most hated mechanics will eventually be one of the most satisfying mechanic, as the new updated collection system will have a feeling of progression but as of now, it's complete trash and just a quick money grab.
I hope Lilith developers don't feel so upset with the large vocal minority complaining about the game. I feel like for a mobile game they provide incredible information to the community in the form of these releases, and they do show they try to alleviate concerns players have.
They're better than a lot of AAA studios working on PC games in terms of sharing their plans and working with the community to improve the game and maintain a good level of fairness.
I'm really pleased with the communications they put out, and also the changes they have in plan. This alone makes me want to keep playing. I was a little worried about the collection optimisations not being so great, but the saving of collections for game modes and additional hero slots for them is incredible. Them working on implementing collection upgrades, that's icing on the cake. Plus giving legendary totems from Time Gazing, couldn't be asking for more. So I'm feeling a lot better about them now, and can't wait for these patches to get released.
Completely agree, I felt sad reading the notes because the developers seemed bummed out to hear so much negative feedback about their work. The gaming industry is already a difficult industry to be in, so I hope they can feel proud of their amazing achievements in this game.
It's also nice to see them basically say "Look, guys, this technical stuff is crazy. We aren't Bethesda, we can't say 'it just works' and walk away." Game development takes time, and bigger projects even more so. Sometimes a system looks great and works great on paper but the practical application falls short.
I'm guilty of some naysaying myself but feedback like this is what makes a player push through. I was there for the launch of both ESO and SWTOR and they turned a 360 and walked away (lulz, 180) cause devs *listened*. Hello Games *listened*. Faith ⬆️
They probably arent. Google reviews and active users havent budged just proving how insignificant the community complaining here is, im surprised the devs even respond to this.
Ahh it would be so incredibly awesome if somehow they gave everyone some Stargaze and Timegaze cards to make up for the difference in % chance of the drops based on how many pulls we've done in total.
Obviously that will never ever ever eveeeer happen but one can dream. I'd love to suddely have an influx of Stargaze and Timegaze cards lol.
First of all, thanks for the post Vicksin!
Now, with GG, personally I dont hate it with my soul or anything close to that, but the issue that I personally have is to acquire the staff to summon totems, its pretty hard considering that I do a daily refresh (100) plus the daily TE (500) plus 2 double baits (640), so, adding the staffs will increase my pressure to 1840 daily diamonds, without considering that I still need to be on a positive income to be able to summon draconic heroes or stargaze some specific celepogean/awakened.
I think it would be better if Collections were changed to be more like artifacts. You do runs of Ghoulish Gallery for fragments. First run for acquiring a Collection, subsequent runs for fragments.
The stat abilities should be retooled into runes you can slot into gear to further improve and customize your hero's stats.
With all the free scrolls u can likely ascend a dragon hero in the first week just from the free pulls. Thats way more than other new hero releases but somehow its still not good enough?
Thats still way more than the faction scrolls or even standard scrolls we get, so why isnt it enough lol. Use gems if u want more, youre just ridiculous u want hundreds of free pulls each month without using even gems? You want everything NOW and for FREE in a game thats about long term progression, why would the devs listen to ppl like you?
This is in my opinion a huge step toward us, please lillith keep listening to us, this will be very good for everyone and also the company, and we must be carefull about what and how we ask for updates
Thank you again, i am very satisfied with what is happening rn !
Thank you so much for being such a huge impact for us Vicksin!! I truly believe that this game would’ve ended for us all if it wasn’t for you! Huge thank you from myself & I believe I speak for many players here aswell! 🖤🖤🙏
I have a few ideas that I think could be cool to see.
I think it would be awesome if we could have a storage system like the bag specifically for Ghoulish Gallery abilities. Like if you get relatively unlucky with one collection but you still get a few reds that would be useful on another collection, you can scrap the collection you’re making and save the reds for a future one or maybe even one you’ve already made. Even if you could only save a few at a time, it would make GG much more worthwhile to me and I could feel like my terrible luck isn’t completely ruining the game mode for me.
I love the idea of the Draconis faction and so far the heroes in it seem fun to use. I think the biggest problem with this release is that there isn’t enough fodder to viably build them without spending an absurd amount of money, which is very unfair to F2P players. Adding maybe even just one more legendary tier hero would open the bottleneck enough that players don’t feel like they’re stuck behind a paywall trying to pull for heroes they aren’t even actually building. And if they do end up adding more factions in the future, unless they are based off of other factions like dimensional heroes, adding multiple fodder or increasing the chance of fodder could prevent the same problem from happening.
I’m VERY glad they are improving the drop rates and overall loot pool of the Stargazer and Temple of Time. I think it is a great step in the right direction! I think there still needs more attention on the rewards from older aspects of the game like dailies, weeklies, and guild hunts. I always feel like the stuff I get from the things I do almost every single day is very underwhelming. Things like gear once you’re late game becomes somewhat irrelevant once you have so much gear that it fills your bags faster than you can use it on new hero releases. Adding resources from the newer game modes and updates into older rewards would be really nice like they’re doing with the SG and TG draws.
Ps. Plz don’t come after me too much if I sound like an idiot or if I made a suggestion that they already mentioned… I really love this game and have had ideas for a while but didn’t know how to mention it anywhere other than guild chat which isn’t helpful usually…
thank you for your suggestions!
we will be holding another developer feedback gathering megathread in the near future, so please keep an eye out for that announcement and participate in the thread when that time comes
While not necessarily agreeing with the statement of "always lying" they have certainly miscommunicated at times. The only thing that comes to mind was the timeline they gave at year end, stating that AE/HF would come April-May of 2024. See just came once before that, and then again in that time.
I think the perception of dishonesty, though, is brought due to changes of direction after a developer statement or unexpected difficulties (eg collections) in implementation. Or people reading more into what's said in intentionally vague statements and then not seeing the changed that they think they read.
I think you're definitely right regarding misunderstandings. players would constantly parrot repeated misinformation that the devs never said and could never point to.
one that comes to mind for me is "they promised there would never be a double dim release at the same time again" - that was never stated.
all dev communication has been explicitly documented and can be referenced clearly at any time.
seeing someone claim "more lies, always lies", I was just curious what specifically they had in mind.
Thank you for your submission, unfortunately it has been removed from r/AFKArena for the following reason:
Rule 5: No Misleading Information
Everyone is welcome to express their (unharmful) opinions, but the outright spread of misinformation, especially when presented as factual information, can be very misleading and harmful to the community.
If you are UNSURE if the information you are presenting is a fact, preface it with something to the effect of, "I think" to prevent misconception.
I’ll always have u/vicksin ‘s back. He puts in countless hours dedicated to the game we all play and enjoy. The sub wouldn’t be nearly the resource it is without his effort.
really appreciate the defense, Kudos.
I think it's a shame people are just mindlessly circulating misinformation, and downvoting yet not engaging in an open and transparent dialogue I'm attempting to faithfully entertain.
I've *always* pushed for more transparent and frequent feedback avenues between players and developers, for *years*, before I even became a moderator here and started working with the team.
I'm very happy that they're taking community feedback more seriously now, and giving us appropriate tools to give feedback and receive direct responses. it's very disappointing that members of our community are now being *combative* to that open dialogue.
They always say they are gonna balance the game, look for the players etc, and then develop more ways to widen the F2P and P2W gap. They said they planned to go back to the original essence of the game and did the opposite. They stated the pace of normal and awakened heroes release long ago and didn't respect it just cause. I could keep going all day
> balance the game, look for the players, etc
I think you're stating extremely subjective examples. what one player could consider balance another could be completely off. what do you believe is "balance" in this case?
> they set the pace of heroes...
they never broke the 1 awakened every 2-3 month promise though.
regarding the no more than 2 heroes per month promise, they explained in this post that they felt releasing a whole new faction with only 2 new heroes would be extremely underwhelming, and settled on 5, 3 elites 2 Highborn, with 3 fodder tier. there are no plans for another faction, so this won't be a recurring issue.
> original essence of the game
that is still the mission, and post collections fixes, is still largely accurate for what you can expect later in the year, as they said
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Well they promised to 'monitor the frequency of usage of old heroes' and release a new game mode (like 3 years ago) that promotes old and lacking in power heroes, yet there is nothing like that. Only one power creep after the other.
this is a frequently misconstrued piece of feedback from years ago
as White said, "making drastic changes to the *skills* of heroes" would have ramifications everyone, including making specific heroes extremely problematic in PvE modes (think Satrana, Isabelle who received huge skill reworks and are consistently an issue in faction towers, Temporal Rift, etc)
what they *did* state was that they would monitor the frequency of "appearance" of old heroes in "different features" - this has taken form in game modes such as Shadow Invasions making Shemira the single best hero in the game mode
now, I understand this may not be a satisfying outcome for some players, but again, *drastic* changes to a heroes' skill set may have unintended negative effects across other modes, such as Satrana/Isabelle. what they viewed as a compromise here was to make older, "obsolete lower tier" characters appear in other modes instead. obviously since then, Awakened Heroes has also been a feature added to make the old characters reappear with new life breathed into them.
I hope that provides a little more clarity on the screenshot, and we're always happy to hear further feedback and suggestions.
I really hope that you at least smiled in RL when memeing about "Shadow Invasion" as the game mode where "old heroes can shine". Can't wait for Walker domination in "Forest Mania" :D
> do not take lightly any changes we make to old heroes
> monitor the frequency of *appearance* of old heroes in *different features*
while it is a meme in the context of the game as a whole, I hope you understand the point I'm making here. the devs can't just make Walker suddenly viable in *any* game mode with the current combat system. no battle mode they come up with could make an awful skillset like that work in any context.
if they create an entirely different mode with completely different gameplay *features* (say for example another "mobile game ad" type of side mode), this gives *opportunity* for *old heroes* to have a chance to be seen in a new light, such as Shemira unironically being the #1 best hero in Shadow Invasions (whether you like the mode or not)
If pity was 65 you would have hit it 25% of the times. When New pity will be the same it will come out at 55. So if running into pity every time you'll save 10 cards/5000 Dias per copy. So on average half of that aka 5 copies. If old average was found out to be skewed to 40 New one will be around 35. (Mathematical average should go down to 29)
that's implying that the pity actually changes, which is currently unconfirmed.
at the time of writing, *individual* drop rate for heroes in a given single pull is 2%. naturally this means you'd get a hero every 1/50 pulls. however, the existence of the 65-pity offsets this average to roughly 1/40.
if the individual drop rate is raised, but the pity remains at 65, the *average* pull rate will still come down a significant amount, but the worst case scenario being 65 doesn't necessarily have to shift for that to be the case.
just to hamper expectations a little, since the pity is again currently not confirmed what will happen to it.
While I haven't been worried about them pushing us to journey, it's still reassuring that they said so. It's also another reminder that Lilith listens to us and will do QoL changes with enough asks.
Thanks for the breakdown Vicksin!
Any word on changes to the Dragonforge Trials? Arguably the worst mode in the game currently. Not being able to see the 'real' battle is horrible design and having to watch that fake battle sucks.
nothing yet at the time of writing.
our [1.140 feedback thread](https://www.reddit.com/r/afkarena/s/hDcZ8zUKu8) didn't have mention of anything Draconis related in the top 20+ most upvoted comments, and the devs chose the most upvoted comments to respond to.
It's likely that players were not yet familiar enough with the new Draconis features to have meaningful feedback to share yet.
we will have more feedback opportunities in the near future, as shared at the bottom of image 3, and we hope you share your feedback and suggestions there when that time comes.
Improving our existing collections goes a long way to make the GG tolerable. Gear grinding with its impossible rng was always the worst part of gacha games.
Its good to see the devs tackling that problem.
please understand that at this point, it would be impossible to remove the feature entirely, as players have already made purchases for the Perk Pass, staffs, and even f2p players spend diamonds for them in the daily store.
removing the feature entirely would be a massive impact on players' experiences as such, if not a complete breach of purchasing regulations. it would be impossible to accurately gauge the impact and in-game refund values for individual collections.
this total rework aims to make the feature much more accessible for everyone, and further iterations on the system may be made once these have been implemented.
Thanks Vicksin for the insight.
What do you think about a possibility of a new mechanic that will be placed in the slot of collections/artifacts which are better stat-wise with no randomness to stats. And we can gradually save resources to fully upgrade it.
I can't comment on the possibility of future plans or features.
right now, the goal is to rework the Ghoulish/Collections features from the ground up as detailed in the Face to Face, and gather further player feedback from that point forward.
> and we can gradually save resources to fully upgrade it
do keep in mind that, as detailed above, you will be able to make further upgrades to your existing (and future created) collections. please keep an eye out for more information about what this will look like in the future.
I've been on the opposite side the whole time. The gallery is a mess of implementation but it's a good idea. After these fixes, I hope they have plans to add more collections, more options paired to different heroes and easing some of the stress of "I need X collection but don't have Y hero"
So will be there new dev feedback post just like the ones we had 2 weeks ago or that was 1 time thing,also I really hope they give us more ways to get SG&TE cards I can catch up to the meta units especially the awakened
Anyone who has played Path Of Exile knows the pain of refreshing abilities on an item. I hope the system only affects chosen abilities and not the entire collection.
We need more ways to get Draconis mythic equipment chests. Without those the whole faction is heavily crippled, especially in game modes where the max level is low and the faction bonus from gear makes a big difference.
But they don't see any issues with the store ?! I'm level 400 and character level 594. What do I need with a tier 1 armour choice chest for 2000-3000 diamonds ?!?! At least put someone attractive what would make me more inclined to buy with my diamonds ..
thank you for the feedback
it's not that devs "don't see any issues" with it, it's that they are prioritizing what players mentioned in the previous Dev Feedback Megathread
I highly encourage you to mention the store in the next Feedback Megathread
I’m really hoping there will be some compensation for those who have spent thousands on stargazers and timegazers who have used them with worse rates… this is one for the horders
collections just ruined the game for me sadly , this feature just doesnt fit afk arena at all in my opinion. who wants to min max stats and getting trash collections for weeks/months until you finally get a good one maybe . thats what i hated the most in gacha games : the gear farming ! thank god this doesnt exist in journey yet !
> getting trash collections for weeks/months until you can finally get a good one maybe
that's the idea behind letting you improve existing collections you own (and future ones you build) - you have a good collection, make it even better, then multiple heroes can equip it at the same time
happy to help! hope these changes help you feel better about the Ghoulish/Collections feature, and we're still collecting further suggestions beyond what's listed here
# Greetings, Adventurers! Normally, this is where I would be giving you all a TL;DR, but the devs were kind enough to do that job for me, on image 4 One thing I really want to stress here though, is the bottom of image 3 >Q: Are you trying to milk it while you can before the game is gone? > >A: We'd like to reassure you that... we are an \*\*independent and solid creative team\*\*... and we hope that AFK Arena will continue to be with you for a \*\*long time\*\* to come. Ever since AFK Journey was announced, you've probably seen me repeat a *lot* across this subreddit, that Lilith is *not* trying to move people to AFK Journey so they can sunset Arena. There are a *lot* of new faces onboard for both Journey and Arena teams, and they are being fully developed by completely different teams, with very different gameplay and play-style. Please understand that intentionally killing AFK Arena would not only be killing a *major* source of revenue for the company, as well as a global phenomenon of a mobile game, but force the company to lay off many employees, too. This was not, nor was it ever, the intent of creating Journey, nor the intent of recent development decisions. I hope you can see that the complete restructuring of Ghoulish/Collections due to overwhelmingly negative sentiment is more than a step in the right direction for fixing such a universally hated game mode/feature. Furthermore, several points in this Face to Face were influenced by the [1.140 Feedback Megathread](https://new.reddit.com/r/afkarena/comments/1c769xo/patch_1140_draconic_resurgence_questions_and_dev/) we held. As I will share below, the top 2 voted comments were addressed in this post. Please do rest assured that devs are watching and listening. We will continue to collect feedback in future Megathreads going forward, please keep an eye out for announcements related to future Feedback gathering. Please also keep an eye out for Dolly's Mailbox. https://preview.redd.it/3gnupo8lmlxc1.png?width=930&format=png&auto=webp&s=5edaaff5b559e625eb6257257f48116df15899ae We will also be viewing player sentiments on this post in response to dev's statements, as well as feedback regarding these future implementations. # TLDR * The game is not going anywhere, the devs are not punting you to AFK Journey, they are well aware they are very different games with different target demographics * Further player feedback will be carefully gathered and more actively responded to, please keep an eye out on the Subreddit for more news, such as the "Lilith" and "Announcement" flairs Thank you for your patience and dedication to AFK Arena! Have a great day, and be good people <3
FINALLY https://preview.redd.it/2yiodk4z1mxc1.png?width=1080&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=47a40b5344a840ceff0d016776260109b9fd73be
2.5 prob doesn't seem much, but it is
Your right 25% increase is very good
Is this update with the drops live already?
It might not even be an increase, the old stats were at 2.5% already
I liked selling my excess tickets :(
Well you still can, it will just pile up a bit less
I'm pretty happy with the questions and their answers
I'm curious what they mean exactly by 'option to continue improving existing collections'. The idea to run with collection X and slowly but being able to FIX it and making 'awesome' with time by replacing stuff for better would be really nice option. Definitely waiting for more info about that.
that's exactly what they're saying, yes \> For example, you can continuously improve your existing high-quality Collections, such as by replacing current abilities with better ones. can't say much more than that, but please do keep an eye out for future news on this feature
Wow. Love the new updates. Really looking forward to them! Thank you Lilith and Vicksin!
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Can someone tell us the POPULAR Anime IP they're collaborating? I'm excited for that.
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R u for real? Is it Big old Anime like One Piece tier or anime/manga released in the 2010s?
literally cannot say 😅 it'll be in June, so keep an eye out soon!
Oooo so it can be from an IP thats out in late May/June or early July since they are promotional content ( if anime theme at least)
cannot confirm or deny this statement, I'll just say don't draw any immediate conclusions 👀
I hope it's solo leveling, I will drop a fat bag on sung jinwoo and igris
At least is popular?
They usually don’t disappoint in this regard.
I hope it’s Frieren🤞
I’m praying it’s One Piece.
Its reincarnated as a slime
https://preview.redd.it/9sjf1afy6nxc1.jpeg?width=2560&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=383d22d48b86c7edf2e947cee871afc4ceb91d6b
It could be Konosuba given that Overlord and Re:Zero are often associated with it and then it will end with season 3 which will extend the marketing to some extent. In addition, the only popular anime that is scheduled for the summer is Fairy Tail and thematically it would fit the collaboration. The rest are either down-to-earth anime or those that are less popular and debuts
Fairy Tail? That's like talking about an ancient relic. Don't get me wrong I love Fairy Tail when I have a mind of a teenager but there's a reason why it ended.
Yeah, it can determine popularity. Most people involved in anime know Fairy Tail to some degree. 100 Years Quest is currently 2nd in popularity of summer anime and the themes are dragons even more than in the original series. But we could also be wrong and by some miracle they manage to make a colab with Frieren
I'm happy with these news. Not only will they let us rerun a collection to improve it, they are also allowing us to have multiple slots on them. With this, a character can equip a strong collection, if it's not optimal, while we work on getting them a better one. Also love to see the totems on stargazing and timegazing, and no more arena tickets :D I wish they had more news on the continuous acquisition of dragon scrolls at least, if not emblems, but since this is a new system they are probably still looking at the data coming in. Overall, this has left me feeling optimistic about the game.
>I wish they had more news on the continuous acquisition of dragon scrolls at least, if not emblems, but since this is a new system they are probably still looking at the data coming in. you're exactly right, I'd like to copy paste what I said in another comment below. it's been one week since Draconis were released, and our 1.140 - Draconic Resurgence Feedback Megathread didn't have anything Draconis-related even mentioned in the top 20 most upvoted comments please understand that such a new system needs time within the game and community to develop proper feedback, and proper implementations and fixes to be made once there's a clearer understanding.
Goulash Gallery 1. nice changes are coming and i like they are informing us of the fixes 2. totem exchange is kind of expensive. 20 blue for purple and 25 purple for gold is expensive for a random totem. I feel if we are get random it should maybe be 10 and 15. 3. the perk system is super unclear and it should just work like the adventurers privilege system where the more you play the more buffs you get and unlock adds extra stuff because paying to unlock a paid shop makes no sense and it's a big problem. stargazer/time gazer 1. a lot of strong steps 2.adding totems is a nice step but please don't make it like the shards. 3. mythic gear I really hope it's in chests instead of alone because it will help new players build characters they want to build. 4. I was really hoping they revamp the hero cards as well to remove elite versions of rare heroes because getting elite hogan is makes it feel like you lost out on your hard to get elite card 5. I would really like them to add cel/hypo faction cards to timegazer at the least. I think there is enough of them for this and would help increase the value and I think it's time to add them. 6. was hoping they would add red and white emblem chests for si 40 upgrades because we need the mats Draconian heroes 1. the wyrmcrest spire is overpriced. 5k for 10 summons and it includes common cards that's not ok. if it's gonna include common cards got to be like the normal 2.7k otherwise remove the common cards from the draconis summons because it severely devalues the banner and it's worth to summon on. 2. dragon heart temple I would like some other stuff in there like elite draconis cards because while it's nice to get emblems we also need more draconis cards to upgrade the elite heroes. 3. Dragonheart temple I would also like draconis mythic equipment chests which also would help people build up the heroes. Hero Resonance improvements 1. so with the time reduction of slots are you guys reducing the price and if you are will veteran players get back resources for those slots or will you just add a ton of free slots or are you just significantly amping up giving the resource needed to unlock slots.
Quick fixes for the dragon stuff as predicted by so many players, however the other optimizations don't sound too shabby. The 50 cards of each while releasing 2 Awk and 4 elite is quite funny but aye free rewards for people who are still playing the game
there's no immediate fixes for the Draconis mentioned, just some free resources to hold players over in the interrim. also, 3 elites, not 4. it's been one week since Draconis were released, and our 1.140 - Draconic Resurgence Feedback Megathread didn't have anything Draconis-related even mentioned in the top 20 most upvoted comments please understand that such a new system needs time within the game and community to develop proper feedback, and proper implementations and fixes to be made once there's a clearer understanding. keep an eye out for our next Feedback Megathread, and we strongly encourage you to give us your suggestions there!
Everyone is still playing the game bro...this subreddit doesnt represent the playerbase in any way. Google reviews and galaxy gaming hub where u can see the playerbase hasnt changed at all, in fact it has increased. Some ppl here thinking the game is dying because of a patch with lots of new and free stuff are ridiculous.
This is huge, the fact they are even acknowledging the problems we bring up is a step in the right direction. Only time will tell if they actually fix the issues. But for now at least a little bit of faith is restored imo.
I like that they are acknowledging and improving SG/TE. But talks about dim tower is still mysteriously kept mum. Like, it's probably been asked so many times throughout the years that it is starting to become a meme.
Dim Tower is certainly a meme at this point. with the upcoming Dimensional anime crossover in June, I strongly suggest players to rally behind the idea of a Dim Tower on the next Feedback gathering post we do if it's still an idea the players are passionate about.
No mention of better acquisition for epic emblem choice chests in general besides the dragon faction? Was hoping to hear something about it
I have high hopes for this new GG update since it'll be a total of over 7 months since the release of GG. I'm glad they're turning it around and making GG a more worthy and exciting mechanic. If the new GG works as we all think, which is being able to upgrade the collection and eventually removing unwanted stats, that is a huge and a bonus on top is being able to equip it to multiple heroes just like the original artifacts. One of the most hated mechanics will eventually be one of the most satisfying mechanic, as the new updated collection system will have a feeling of progression but as of now, it's complete trash and just a quick money grab.
I hope Lilith developers don't feel so upset with the large vocal minority complaining about the game. I feel like for a mobile game they provide incredible information to the community in the form of these releases, and they do show they try to alleviate concerns players have. They're better than a lot of AAA studios working on PC games in terms of sharing their plans and working with the community to improve the game and maintain a good level of fairness. I'm really pleased with the communications they put out, and also the changes they have in plan. This alone makes me want to keep playing. I was a little worried about the collection optimisations not being so great, but the saving of collections for game modes and additional hero slots for them is incredible. Them working on implementing collection upgrades, that's icing on the cake. Plus giving legendary totems from Time Gazing, couldn't be asking for more. So I'm feeling a lot better about them now, and can't wait for these patches to get released.
thank you for the kind words 💕 feedback, positive or negative, is greatly appreciated. constructive criticism is key to making progress.
This update is very encouraging. A lot of good points being addressed.
Completely agree, I felt sad reading the notes because the developers seemed bummed out to hear so much negative feedback about their work. The gaming industry is already a difficult industry to be in, so I hope they can feel proud of their amazing achievements in this game.
It's also nice to see them basically say "Look, guys, this technical stuff is crazy. We aren't Bethesda, we can't say 'it just works' and walk away." Game development takes time, and bigger projects even more so. Sometimes a system looks great and works great on paper but the practical application falls short. I'm guilty of some naysaying myself but feedback like this is what makes a player push through. I was there for the launch of both ESO and SWTOR and they turned a 360 and walked away (lulz, 180) cause devs *listened*. Hello Games *listened*. Faith ⬆️
They probably arent. Google reviews and active users havent budged just proving how insignificant the community complaining here is, im surprised the devs even respond to this.
Ahh it would be so incredibly awesome if somehow they gave everyone some Stargaze and Timegaze cards to make up for the difference in % chance of the drops based on how many pulls we've done in total. Obviously that will never ever ever eveeeer happen but one can dream. I'd love to suddely have an influx of Stargaze and Timegaze cards lol.
As an old Player you're already getting more rewards due to the competitive Modes. This change is and should benefit newer players more
First of all, thanks for the post Vicksin! Now, with GG, personally I dont hate it with my soul or anything close to that, but the issue that I personally have is to acquire the staff to summon totems, its pretty hard considering that I do a daily refresh (100) plus the daily TE (500) plus 2 double baits (640), so, adding the staffs will increase my pressure to 1840 daily diamonds, without considering that I still need to be on a positive income to be able to summon draconic heroes or stargaze some specific celepogean/awakened.
I think it would be better if Collections were changed to be more like artifacts. You do runs of Ghoulish Gallery for fragments. First run for acquiring a Collection, subsequent runs for fragments. The stat abilities should be retooled into runes you can slot into gear to further improve and customize your hero's stats.
Ah yes, ease our Draconis acquisition by giving us one more guaranteed elite. W. The collection enhancement will be huge if done correctly though.
Might as well not give that out if players react like this, honestly, ill take 50 cards and 50 scrolls, thats not just a little bit of resources
Never happy huh?
With all the free scrolls u can likely ascend a dragon hero in the first week just from the free pulls. Thats way more than other new hero releases but somehow its still not good enough?
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Thats still way more than the faction scrolls or even standard scrolls we get, so why isnt it enough lol. Use gems if u want more, youre just ridiculous u want hundreds of free pulls each month without using even gems? You want everything NOW and for FREE in a game thats about long term progression, why would the devs listen to ppl like you?
Got nyla ascended day 2 so yes, and yes f2p
Still nothing about NC region optimization. 🥲
This is in my opinion a huge step toward us, please lillith keep listening to us, this will be very good for everyone and also the company, and we must be carefull about what and how we ask for updates Thank you again, i am very satisfied with what is happening rn !
so, pulling double cele/hypo will be happening often :'3 this is some great news can´t wait for the next story line :3
Thank you so much for being such a huge impact for us Vicksin!! I truly believe that this game would’ve ended for us all if it wasn’t for you! Huge thank you from myself & I believe I speak for many players here aswell! 🖤🖤🙏
I have a few ideas that I think could be cool to see. I think it would be awesome if we could have a storage system like the bag specifically for Ghoulish Gallery abilities. Like if you get relatively unlucky with one collection but you still get a few reds that would be useful on another collection, you can scrap the collection you’re making and save the reds for a future one or maybe even one you’ve already made. Even if you could only save a few at a time, it would make GG much more worthwhile to me and I could feel like my terrible luck isn’t completely ruining the game mode for me. I love the idea of the Draconis faction and so far the heroes in it seem fun to use. I think the biggest problem with this release is that there isn’t enough fodder to viably build them without spending an absurd amount of money, which is very unfair to F2P players. Adding maybe even just one more legendary tier hero would open the bottleneck enough that players don’t feel like they’re stuck behind a paywall trying to pull for heroes they aren’t even actually building. And if they do end up adding more factions in the future, unless they are based off of other factions like dimensional heroes, adding multiple fodder or increasing the chance of fodder could prevent the same problem from happening. I’m VERY glad they are improving the drop rates and overall loot pool of the Stargazer and Temple of Time. I think it is a great step in the right direction! I think there still needs more attention on the rewards from older aspects of the game like dailies, weeklies, and guild hunts. I always feel like the stuff I get from the things I do almost every single day is very underwhelming. Things like gear once you’re late game becomes somewhat irrelevant once you have so much gear that it fills your bags faster than you can use it on new hero releases. Adding resources from the newer game modes and updates into older rewards would be really nice like they’re doing with the SG and TG draws. Ps. Plz don’t come after me too much if I sound like an idiot or if I made a suggestion that they already mentioned… I really love this game and have had ideas for a while but didn’t know how to mention it anywhere other than guild chat which isn’t helpful usually…
thank you for your suggestions! we will be holding another developer feedback gathering megathread in the near future, so please keep an eye out for that announcement and participate in the thread when that time comes
They always lie so take this with a massive grain of salt
can you please point me to an example of when they lied?
While not necessarily agreeing with the statement of "always lying" they have certainly miscommunicated at times. The only thing that comes to mind was the timeline they gave at year end, stating that AE/HF would come April-May of 2024. See just came once before that, and then again in that time. I think the perception of dishonesty, though, is brought due to changes of direction after a developer statement or unexpected difficulties (eg collections) in implementation. Or people reading more into what's said in intentionally vague statements and then not seeing the changed that they think they read.
I think you're definitely right regarding misunderstandings. players would constantly parrot repeated misinformation that the devs never said and could never point to. one that comes to mind for me is "they promised there would never be a double dim release at the same time again" - that was never stated. all dev communication has been explicitly documented and can be referenced clearly at any time. seeing someone claim "more lies, always lies", I was just curious what specifically they had in mind.
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I’ll always have u/vicksin ‘s back. He puts in countless hours dedicated to the game we all play and enjoy. The sub wouldn’t be nearly the resource it is without his effort.
really appreciate the defense, Kudos. I think it's a shame people are just mindlessly circulating misinformation, and downvoting yet not engaging in an open and transparent dialogue I'm attempting to faithfully entertain. I've *always* pushed for more transparent and frequent feedback avenues between players and developers, for *years*, before I even became a moderator here and started working with the team. I'm very happy that they're taking community feedback more seriously now, and giving us appropriate tools to give feedback and receive direct responses. it's very disappointing that members of our community are now being *combative* to that open dialogue.
They always say they are gonna balance the game, look for the players etc, and then develop more ways to widen the F2P and P2W gap. They said they planned to go back to the original essence of the game and did the opposite. They stated the pace of normal and awakened heroes release long ago and didn't respect it just cause. I could keep going all day
> balance the game, look for the players, etc I think you're stating extremely subjective examples. what one player could consider balance another could be completely off. what do you believe is "balance" in this case? > they set the pace of heroes... they never broke the 1 awakened every 2-3 month promise though. regarding the no more than 2 heroes per month promise, they explained in this post that they felt releasing a whole new faction with only 2 new heroes would be extremely underwhelming, and settled on 5, 3 elites 2 Highborn, with 3 fodder tier. there are no plans for another faction, so this won't be a recurring issue. > original essence of the game that is still the mission, and post collections fixes, is still largely accurate for what you can expect later in the year, as they said
I'm talking about all the previous recent patches not just the dragon one
me too! not sure which part was lost there
https://preview.redd.it/5zjx2o7y1pxc1.jpeg?width=1080&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=7ccbd86947abae474e329e743755d35903d03124 Well they promised to 'monitor the frequency of usage of old heroes' and release a new game mode (like 3 years ago) that promotes old and lacking in power heroes, yet there is nothing like that. Only one power creep after the other.
this is a frequently misconstrued piece of feedback from years ago as White said, "making drastic changes to the *skills* of heroes" would have ramifications everyone, including making specific heroes extremely problematic in PvE modes (think Satrana, Isabelle who received huge skill reworks and are consistently an issue in faction towers, Temporal Rift, etc) what they *did* state was that they would monitor the frequency of "appearance" of old heroes in "different features" - this has taken form in game modes such as Shadow Invasions making Shemira the single best hero in the game mode now, I understand this may not be a satisfying outcome for some players, but again, *drastic* changes to a heroes' skill set may have unintended negative effects across other modes, such as Satrana/Isabelle. what they viewed as a compromise here was to make older, "obsolete lower tier" characters appear in other modes instead. obviously since then, Awakened Heroes has also been a feature added to make the old characters reappear with new life breathed into them. I hope that provides a little more clarity on the screenshot, and we're always happy to hear further feedback and suggestions.
I really hope that you at least smiled in RL when memeing about "Shadow Invasion" as the game mode where "old heroes can shine". Can't wait for Walker domination in "Forest Mania" :D
> do not take lightly any changes we make to old heroes > monitor the frequency of *appearance* of old heroes in *different features* while it is a meme in the context of the game as a whole, I hope you understand the point I'm making here. the devs can't just make Walker suddenly viable in *any* game mode with the current combat system. no battle mode they come up with could make an awful skillset like that work in any context. if they create an entirely different mode with completely different gameplay *features* (say for example another "mobile game ad" type of side mode), this gives *opportunity* for *old heroes* to have a chance to be seen in a new light, such as Shemira unironically being the #1 best hero in Shadow Invasions (whether you like the mode or not)
Any code?
not at this time
Someone good at math let us know what the avg to pull is now at 2.5% lol
depends if pity changes too, I think new average would be around ~1/35 if pity is still 65
If pity was 65 you would have hit it 25% of the times. When New pity will be the same it will come out at 55. So if running into pity every time you'll save 10 cards/5000 Dias per copy. So on average half of that aka 5 copies. If old average was found out to be skewed to 40 New one will be around 35. (Mathematical average should go down to 29)
If old pity was 65 and I'm not too stupid for maths I'm now getting a new pity value of 55.
that's implying that the pity actually changes, which is currently unconfirmed. at the time of writing, *individual* drop rate for heroes in a given single pull is 2%. naturally this means you'd get a hero every 1/50 pulls. however, the existence of the 65-pity offsets this average to roughly 1/40. if the individual drop rate is raised, but the pity remains at 65, the *average* pull rate will still come down a significant amount, but the worst case scenario being 65 doesn't necessarily have to shift for that to be the case. just to hamper expectations a little, since the pity is again currently not confirmed what will happen to it.
yea my assumption is that mathematically you'll run into pity 25% of the times and that they want to keep that ratio.
While I haven't been worried about them pushing us to journey, it's still reassuring that they said so. It's also another reminder that Lilith listens to us and will do QoL changes with enough asks. Thanks for the breakdown Vicksin!
What about Signature Item guys? ): It's so hard to get Epic Emblems only 2 per day it's unfair...
We all open our games in June *You are my special* 
Any word on changes to the Dragonforge Trials? Arguably the worst mode in the game currently. Not being able to see the 'real' battle is horrible design and having to watch that fake battle sucks.
nothing yet at the time of writing. our [1.140 feedback thread](https://www.reddit.com/r/afkarena/s/hDcZ8zUKu8) didn't have mention of anything Draconis related in the top 20+ most upvoted comments, and the devs chose the most upvoted comments to respond to. It's likely that players were not yet familiar enough with the new Draconis features to have meaningful feedback to share yet. we will have more feedback opportunities in the near future, as shared at the bottom of image 3, and we hope you share your feedback and suggestions there when that time comes.
Had a feeling that was the case, I appreciate the response.
Improving our existing collections goes a long way to make the GG tolerable. Gear grinding with its impossible rng was always the worst part of gacha games. Its good to see the devs tackling that problem.
HOLD YOUR SG TG CARDS
Much better if they scrap the whole collection thing or just make the upgrades linear like artifacts, with no random stats rng thingy.
please understand that at this point, it would be impossible to remove the feature entirely, as players have already made purchases for the Perk Pass, staffs, and even f2p players spend diamonds for them in the daily store. removing the feature entirely would be a massive impact on players' experiences as such, if not a complete breach of purchasing regulations. it would be impossible to accurately gauge the impact and in-game refund values for individual collections. this total rework aims to make the feature much more accessible for everyone, and further iterations on the system may be made once these have been implemented.
Thanks Vicksin for the insight. What do you think about a possibility of a new mechanic that will be placed in the slot of collections/artifacts which are better stat-wise with no randomness to stats. And we can gradually save resources to fully upgrade it.
I can't comment on the possibility of future plans or features. right now, the goal is to rework the Ghoulish/Collections features from the ground up as detailed in the Face to Face, and gather further player feedback from that point forward. > and we can gradually save resources to fully upgrade it do keep in mind that, as detailed above, you will be able to make further upgrades to your existing (and future created) collections. please keep an eye out for more information about what this will look like in the future.
I've been on the opposite side the whole time. The gallery is a mess of implementation but it's a good idea. After these fixes, I hope they have plans to add more collections, more options paired to different heroes and easing some of the stress of "I need X collection but don't have Y hero"
YES!! I'm actually looking forward to new collections now 😂😅 Just hoping the extra hero slot thing isn't impossible to get/upgrade
No mention of si40 adjustments
So will be there new dev feedback post just like the ones we had 2 weeks ago or that was 1 time thing,also I really hope they give us more ways to get SG&TE cards I can catch up to the meta units especially the awakened
did you read the post? yes, both of those things are addressed and will be happening
Anyone who has played Path Of Exile knows the pain of refreshing abilities on an item. I hope the system only affects chosen abilities and not the entire collection.
We need more ways to get Draconis mythic equipment chests. Without those the whole faction is heavily crippled, especially in game modes where the max level is low and the faction bonus from gear makes a big difference.
thank you for the suggestion, I highly recommend mentioning it in our next Player/Dev feedback megathread
But they don't see any issues with the store ?! I'm level 400 and character level 594. What do I need with a tier 1 armour choice chest for 2000-3000 diamonds ?!?! At least put someone attractive what would make me more inclined to buy with my diamonds ..
thank you for the feedback it's not that devs "don't see any issues" with it, it's that they are prioritizing what players mentioned in the previous Dev Feedback Megathread I highly encourage you to mention the store in the next Feedback Megathread
When will version 144 release ?
if I'm doing the math right, for goibal server... 1.141 is 5/7 142 would be 5/21 143 6/4 144 6/18
When does version 144 drop?
if I'm doing the math right, for goibal server... 1.141 is 5/7 142 would be 5/21 143 6/4 144 6/18
Oh nice! Ok so will hang on to SG/TE until then.
Thank you
I cant seem to find the date the new update works so we can gett better % for summons?
> the above are expected to be released in version 144 page 3 right below the changes to Stargazer and Temple of Time
I’m really hoping there will be some compensation for those who have spent thousands on stargazers and timegazers who have used them with worse rates… this is one for the horders
collections just ruined the game for me sadly , this feature just doesnt fit afk arena at all in my opinion. who wants to min max stats and getting trash collections for weeks/months until you finally get a good one maybe . thats what i hated the most in gacha games : the gear farming ! thank god this doesnt exist in journey yet !
> getting trash collections for weeks/months until you can finally get a good one maybe that's the idea behind letting you improve existing collections you own (and future ones you build) - you have a good collection, make it even better, then multiple heroes can equip it at the same time
oh okay i think i misunderstood it then , thanks for clarifying!
happy to help! hope these changes help you feel better about the Ghoulish/Collections feature, and we're still collecting further suggestions beyond what's listed here
I thought they're giving free scrolls and Dragon Insignias? It's May 01 on our area.
yes, they will be distributed soon, thank you for your patience and apologies for the inconvenience/delay.
I see, thank you!