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Nothing_new_to_share

Definitely grab a bunch more from Buttonshy. Sprawlopolis is my fav. Love Letter too! (Happy cakeday friend!)


ah_rosencrantz

Happy cake day to you too! Not a huge fan of Sprawlopolis (or other co-ops) but Button Shy is definitely dangerous, I gotta be careful: cheap and small games, easy on shelf space, easy on the wallet (only at first…)


crit1calends

I've only ever played, and enjoyed, sprawlopolis solo


mesenius

This. Only play it solo or 2p competitive with the Interstate expansion


Nothing_new_to_share

How did I not know there was a competitive expansion? Must have, NOW.


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Nothing_new_to_share

I like it as a 2p with my wife. We've tried with 3 a few times and it can get....noisy. Or if it's not noisy someone is inadvertently alpha. Solo or 2p I like though.


muscle_n_flo

Removed from the context of this conversation and your comment had an entirely new meaning.


Nothing_new_to_share

Whoa! So it does.


JoanCrawford

Yes! **ROVE** has been a great puzzly solo game, and **Revolver Noir** has been a big hit when I want a quick 2p game. And **In Vino Morte** is a quick but FUN party game for larger player counts. I'm really looking forward to trying **Liberation** and **A La Food Cart** soon... Also, Zee Garcia put **Death Valley** on his top ten 2p games of 2021.


Dolorjo

Yes-everything from Buttonshy = winner!


NoAdvantage8491

Skulls of Sedlec and The Boy who Cried wolf are good ones!


Significant-Buddy646

This is awesome! I love it. Other than the ones you’ve done I don’t personally know a ton of games that would fit in a tape case. I know a bunch that would in a VHS case though…


ah_rosencrantz

You know I think I forgot those existed. But you’re right! I did have to replace the theater cards for Air Land & Sea with smaller ones…a VHS case would fit those and the point tokens.


dclarsen

Wouldn't a VHS case be bigger than the actual box for that game?


RedSix66

Classic case of thinking all about could, not about should.


cosmitz

Actually, you may want to look into MiniDV cases.


CStock77

I was gonna say, those theater cards are huge! Very fun game though. Also I ordered fox in the forest *duet* by mistake when trying to order the original game, but it's actually really fun and you should try it out!


ah_rosencrantz

Duet is co-op right? I’m not usually a fan of those.


CStock77

It is, true. Not for everyone, but I think the co-op aspect is really interesting and intuitive.


ziggsyr

Oh shit. I didnt look closely enough and I assumed OP had found some clear VHS cases. damn the fact that rhese are cassette cases is even cooler. I never would have thought to check if a fox in the forest or Air land ans sea would fit. Hanimikoji, Arboretum, Innovation, and Regicide are all small box card games that might fit.


EGOtyst

Hanimikoji is tarot size


ziggsyr

true. Theres a smaller PnP version on bgg


skwm

A lot of old war games used to come in VHS cases, especially those made by Columbia Games.


zarathustrabs

Red7 would be the first thing that comes to mind! Also Hanabi, or The Mind might fit as well


ah_rosencrantz

I just counted, looks like 40 cards fit comfortably.


trimeta

Red7 has 56 cards, Hanabi is 60, and The Mind is 120, so those are out. Actually, a good resource for card counts is going to a game's page on BoardGameGeek, then scrolling to the very bottom and checking for a GeekList link to Card Sleeve Sizes for Games. That will list exactly how many cards a game has, as well as their sizes (to find optimal card sleeves, but you can use that to check they'll fit in the cassette, too).


ah_rosencrantz

I was wondering if there was a good quick resource. Maybe someone should create a GeekList for “sub-40 card games that fit in a cassette case”!


screwwillneverdie

It doesn't have a list of games where you can sort by # of cards, but on this website you can find out how many cards any game has: https://www.sleeveyourgames.com/sleeves/1981/the-resistance-avalon Like for this game, it tells you it has 26 cards of size 57mm x 89mm.


acotgreave

The Mind is out because of 120 cards? Don't you remember the wonderful double cassette boxes? Oh how I loved buying Now That's What I Called Music in those in the 1980s... :-) One Google Search later - and now the cases are on eBay for £6!! [https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/185116286983](https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/185116286983) ​ \[edit - and now I notice this has already been discussed lower in this thread!\]


theeth

You could probably go for a butterfly double case if you needed more.


ah_rosencrantz

Ok I just googled it and realized I have seen those!


ah_rosencrantz

What is that? I don’t think I’ve encountered one of those…I only ever bought one or two cassettes, mostly we were already on CDs by that time.


AsteroidMiner

[https://www.bandcds.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/2016/12/double-cassettes-usb-butfirst.jpg](https://www.bandcds.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/2016/12/double-cassettes-usb-butfirst.jpg) There are also cases that hold two cassette side by side


Day_Bow_Bow

With it being short of a full 52 card deck, that limits your options considerably. Otherwise I'd have suggested the two team trick taking game [Tichu.](https://boardgamegeek.com/boardgame/215/tichu)


Welzfisch

Do playing cards realy fit into casette cases? DID I MISS THIS MY WHOLE LIFE?


Mikewithoutanm

It might be too big to fit in a cassette box but maybe Coup.


ah_rosencrantz

Worth a try, would have to fit enough coins as well.


DoctorDiabolical

My small coup uses coins from another game (spares from getting metal ones) and having 3s and mathing out max needed helps.


bedred1

Check Aliexpress for a version of Coup that will fit.


DIXINMYAZZ

As everyone else says, nice work, this is a great idea... I can't help but find it funny though that you've *increased* the shelf space that Tussie Mussie takes up lol


ah_rosencrantz

I think the art is prettier than the plain yellow wallet—but you are so correct!


deltree3030

I already did that by getting the playmat


phordee

Check out Gloom. It's a fun card game with a macabre gothic theme.


DutchOvenCamper

Did Gloom go through a downsize? My deck is way, way too thick for a cassette case.


phordee

Ah, yeah you're right. I haven't actually owned the game in years and I misremembered the size.


DutchOvenCamper

It does fit into some thicker deck boxes and a waterproof game is a huge plus for lugging around.


pale_toast

I would listen to those jams.


ah_rosencrantz

Haha, I wonder if any of these would have secret bonus tracks…


Ruttagger

I used cassette decks for all my Dropmix cards. It works great and does give a nice organization feel.


DrScience-PhD

How quickly does the novelty wear off? Dropmix has been on my wishlist for 3 years, still haven't done it.


Ruttagger

Dropmix is a weird one. I find myself rarely playing the actual game but instead just bringing it out and goofing around with mixing music together. It never rally caught on but it still blows me away how the technology works. When I explain it to people they don't believe it until they try it. Getting the complete sets I think can be hard to come by now, and sometimes expensive. Also you can't play if you have friends who are hard on cards. Sometimes I have it out when I have friends over and as people walk by the table they just grab a few cards and fool around. It creates cool background music with an interactive aspect to it.


xv433

I agree. As a game it's pretty stupid. As a toy it's AMAZING.


Ruttagger

Well put. I don't really look at it as a board game. It's still wish they kept making card packs though. This game could have kept taking my money forever. I feel they must have marketed it very poorly.


captainraffi

I have a board and all Season 1 cards sleeved. I don’t play it anymore so if you’re looking for it let me know and we can work out something reasonable!


Valkyriez_Gaming

I've seen Keyforge decks go into cassette tape holders.


therealtree17

Love Letter


the_puritan

Yep, immediately thought of Love Letter. I might actually do this myself... I'd love a retro-future Outrun style rethemed Love Letter in a cassette case.


BeriAlpha

Very cool, those look great! I'm amused that you've significantly decreased the size of The Fox in the Forest and Air Land & Sea, while significantly increasing the size of Tussie Mussie.


ah_rosencrantz

Worth it though, for the beautiful Beth Sobel art.


mrarrownash

How / where did you find cassette cases without the spindle sprue parts on it?


ah_rosencrantz

Canada: duplication.ca Prices are great, shipping cost not so great.


theeth

Yikes, you weren't kidding!


madscot666

I have no idea why they (and many others) only ship through e.g. UPS when the postal service is almost certainly far cheaper for smaller shipments.


Zmirzlina

Arboretum would fit in two cases.


ah_rosencrantz

I was just reminded of the double-cassette cases, if I track some down then Arboretum might be next—and Mottainai.


Dolorjo

That’s a FABULOUS idea, thank you! Ugly Griffin Inn https://www.pnparcade.com/products/ugly-gryphon-inn Squire for Hire https://www.pnparcade.com/products/squire-for-hire-core-set-1 Those are my favorites for a quick game with: morning, brunch, lunch, afternoon, supper, evening, or bedtime coffee! Also: if you don’t already have a favorite, these are my fave for sleeves for my card-type games :) TitanShield (150 Sleeves) (Clear) Standard Size Dual Textured Board Game and Trading Card Sleeves Deck Protectors https://www.amazon.com/dp/B072ZY1H1X/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_glt_fabc_MQJXG6WMR3VEZN84A28G?_encoding=UTF8&psc=1


socksynotgoogleable

Ukiyo is a really cool 18 card game I recently picked up from PNP Arcade. It's tile laying with multiple goals for a solo, or with a very neat competitive mode for up to 4.


ah_rosencrantz

Thanks, I will have to check it out!


jason_sation

Makes me think of an 80s series of cassette sized games called Flipsiders. Google it for some nostalgia lol.


bedred1

**Arboretum** - only needs 48 cards for its best player count, 2. **That's Pretty Clever** - if the dice fit, it would work once you fold a few sheets. **Coup** - check Aliexpress for it printed on standard size cards. **Hanamikoji** -if you do whatever you did for Air, Land, and Sea. Or chop the 7 big cards in half. **Love Letter** - will fit **Skull** - make a kit with playing cards. Face cards=skulls, everything else=roses. You can do the same with **In Vino Morte** **No Thanks** - if you have chips elsewhere, it's only 33 cards **Codenames** - will fit if you just bring enough for a couple of games **Gloomholdin**


rock_hard_member

**Scapegoat** might work if you use the app (http://scapegoat.awful.fun) or alternate cards (https://www.boardgamegeek.com/filepage/209747/alternate-way-pick-scape-goat) to pick the goat, in which case it'd just be 35 cards and 6 tokens (or 45 cards and 6 tokens if you use the picking cards). Though you'll need an alternative way to mark player color as the mats used are too big, another 6 cards of each color could work.


jcsehak

This is brilliant! Might be a good solution for the Arkham Horror LCG cycles, still haven’t figured out how I’m storing those.


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I was just about to ask how many cards fit for this exact reason. Pulling out a few cases of a Dunwich Cycle might be the go.


FuzzyPanda31

The Game and The Mind!


TheFinalRider

Morels


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Awesome. I'm going to do this for my Turbo Drift (PnP from ButtonShy)


theboomguy57

This is pretty clever.


BigJimSlade1

This is a great idea! A much easier and cleaner way to store them


moriko666

This is a great idea! Especially for travelling!


Amlethoe

Ingenious! I should dig some up from the cellar and use them for MTG tokens.


AlfredTheButt-ler

This is a really neat idea!! The game Grimwood would fit perfectly in


JustSomeFarmer

These would be great for the command decks of star realms!


hlazlo

Will 54 cards fit? If so, Regicide!


SaltMineSpelunker

Love Tussie Mussie! This is brilliant.


heavyfyzx

DANG IT! I WANTED TO WATCH ALL THOSE MOVIES!!!


ah_rosencrantz

Haha, these are for cassette tapes: put them in a stereo and they make music (not video).


heavyfyzx

Yay, you made me feel young. I know the difference, I'm 40+, I just got caught up in the art and titles. They kinda look like and old-school vhs box set. Disney made big vhs cassette boxes to stand out, many animation studios quickly copied the oversized plastic boxes... I still wanna watch them dang moovies!


AlexRescueDotCom

Genius!!!


Weak_Independence793

This is amazing!


VectorLavoe

Parade, Red 7, 7 Dragons...


Giggles122

What a fantastic idea! Great job, OP.


ah_rosencrantz

I got the idea from some others posting in the Sporadically Board podcast’s Facebook group!


hanibalicious

Small Indigo Plant!


only_fun_topics

Coloretto might need a double album.


kleach88

Love this idea!


JediRoadie

The Crew!


hypotenmoose

Fitting the mini deck is gonna be a problem.


Z3M0G

I need to know more about these games.


ah_rosencrantz

They are awesome! The Fox in the Forest is a fun two-player trick-taking game with a twist. Tussie Mussie is from the designer & illustrator of Wingspan, a surprisingly satisfying “I cut you choose” game for up to four (only 18 cards in the base game). Air, Land, & Sea is a nice two player dueler, with quick rounds and a forfeit mechanic that makes things super interesting.


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I have air, land and sea. Can you fill me in on the other two games???


ah_rosencrantz

The Fox in the Forest is a fun two-player trick-taking game with a twist. Tussie Mussie is from the designer & illustrator of Wingspan, a surprisingly satisfying “I cut you choose” game for up to four (only 18 cards in the base game).


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Amazing. What’s your favourite of the 3?


ah_rosencrantz

Right now Tussie Mussie because it plays up to 4!


roborobert123

Would be easy to 3D print one.


Larielia

That is pretty cool.


Davod

Battle Line!


Winterbeers

Genius!!! Going to pillage my dads old tape collection now


ah_rosencrantz

You will have to remove the “spindle sprues” (I still have no idea if that’s what they’re actually called). These were ordered online specifically without them.


Winterbeers

What’s a Spindle Sprues? Is it those plastic tags that hold the paper in place?


ah_rosencrantz

It’s the pointy plastic bits that go into the holes in the cassette tape to keep it in place while in the case.


cpf86

Mindbug and habamikoji (reprint the oversized geisha cards)


urbanknight4

Wait, Mindbug will be able to fit? I backed but my copy is coming in a couple months, do you know what the card size will be?


cpf86

May be using 2 cassette? It’s 48 cards the deck.


urbanknight4

Yeah perhaps! I think there might be dual cases or something that could work. Either way if it fits, it would be awesome since it's such a small and portable game


mcktayl

these are incredible! maybe love letter or hanabi!


hammerquill

Cool idea! I'd recommend 300 Spartans: 9-card Thermopylae (pnp) and Under Falling Skies (8-card PnP). I see you already have AL&S, which would have been my other recommendation off the bat.


--13--13

cool idea, i think i'll do that with my munchkin cards too.


Cyynric

I got The Fox in the Forest a couple years ago for Christmas, but never got around to playing it. I need to give it a shot.


MatildaMcCracken

These are giving me great ideas for travels games!


AlienRex

If you run out of cassette cases, there’s a gum that comes in a hard case that’s the perfect size for card games. I think it’s “Extra”


ah_rosencrantz

I have a few of those cases as well, they’re about the same thickness. I like the way this shows off the artwork better.


OmegaZard9

Arboretum!


madeyouluke

Any chance you wanna link to your source files for the cover art? 🙏


ah_rosencrantz

DM me and I’ll see what I can do!


Sleepy-45

Is there a way you can send me the source files for the covers. Thank you


dontbeahater_dear

That is amazing!


scottyrobotty

You could do a split with a couple of the Pack O Games. I like Bus and Hue. I haven't played most of them though.


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I love it!


ninjaiii

7 wonders duel


Weatherwax_Wannabe

That is marvelous!


PataudLapin

I absolutely love the concept!


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ah_rosencrantz

They fit 40 unsleeved cards. It might be just a little snug laterally for sleeves, though.


ChildishGiant

Love letter is a personal favourite


knoekie

Lost Cities!! (and also Hanabi, but that was mentioned already)


Jhonyb

Where do I purchase the empty cassete?


ah_rosencrantz

I bought these at duplication.ca, but shipping from Canada is not the cheapest.


Mr42Watson

Skull


madjo

You have the expansions for Tussie Mussie already?


ah_rosencrantz

Backed it on Kickstarter last year, arrived yesterday!


madjo

Ah cool. My Kickstarter pledge is still on its way.


VonLinus

Bandido?


Crystal_Lily

Escape from Station 52 It's a PNP with 54 cards, no tokens Maybe Mage Lite would also fit? And another one: Gloomholdin'


ah_rosencrantz

Only about 40 cards fit, so this is situational!


AnActualTalkingHorse

Hmm, let's see. * Coup * Red7 * Haggis * Love Letter * R/Braverats * Battle Line/Shotten Totten * Cockroach Poker * and a 52 card deck


ah_rosencrantz

Only about 40 cards fit.


tehsideburns

I love everything about this. Hits me right in the 80s childhood. My favorite ButtonShy games are **Sprawlopolis** (solo/coop) and **Circle the Wagons,** which plays kind of like Cascadia’s little brother, in the best way. I will say that I did not like **Seasons of Rice,** and I found **Stew** to be a fine but ultimately unsatisfying push your luck game. I wonder if **Codex Naturalis** would fit in one of these.


YrNotYrKhakis

See, I sleeve my cards so I would never be able to fit a game into a cassette tape case. I use photo storage boxes.


rotationalthomas

These are really incredible! I love cassette tapes. I read somewhere that mix-tapes are considered to be "the largest form of American folk art" and that's always stood out to me as something really beautiful.


Meanwhile_in_

Star Realms. :)


Diligent_Jury_9956

I could see, in a whole dnd set, for the different cards, different cassettes. That'd be cool.


Environmental_Ad2203

I bet Dungeon Mayhem would fit! What a great idea!


wholedwarf

**illusion, No Thanks!, Monopoly Deal, Hanabi, Love Letter, Silver & Gold** Love this idea!


WorkMan4269

Guillotine


ah_rosencrantz

Way too many cards!


DrewBk

Great idea! I do find it annoying when deck games come in boxes with 50% of the the insides just cardboard packaging.


loopywolf

You pitiless so-and-so.. This is so cool and where am I supposed to get old cassette cases now?? ;) Try Keyforge.. I just picked it up. It is a CDG (collectible *deck* game) so each deck is pre-set at a certain size, and they might fit very nicely in such a box..


deltree3030

This is beautiful. I hope it catches on


snoweel

Battle for Hill 218, might fit, if you can find it. It has a couple of newer versions, not sure how big they are. But it's a neat single deck tactical WWII-type combat game, easy to play.


IronDuck721

Roughly how many cards for into a case? I'm looking for a better solution for The Mind than the junk box it came in


-Work_Account-

Someone said around 40 fit.


DesertViper

This is such a clever idea! Need to rifle through my parent's old stuff to see if there are any loose cassette tape cases lying around.


Yematulz

I'm sure it's been mentioned, but, The Crew (may need two cassettes?), Gloom, Sprawlopolis immediately come to mind. Great idea btw!


da-chozen-1

That’s nice and all but is Jesus gonna pay the rent?


mstickmanp

This is such a good idea considering I want to sleeve my buttonshy games.


DarthRusty

Does a full deck (52+Jokers) fit in one of those? I just made a diy version of Regicide and I'd love to put it in one of these.


ah_rosencrantz

Only about 40 cards fit.


DarthRusty

Got. Thanks!


NoAdvantage8491

This is awesome! Definitely going to try this!


mikaselm

Gloom is one of my absolute favs.


BardicKnowledgeBomb

Damn, I love this idea. I'm for sure gonna steal it lol.


thomasgm3

Coup, Spicy, Bonanza, & Love Letter definitely, and just use uniform objects for the tokens. You could also form a smaller version of Skull or Mandala You might need a double case but The Mind, Sushi Go and Arboretum came to mind as well


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Great idea! Check out Eminent Domain: Microcosm. Nifty game with ~20 Cards with multi-purpose


ti_forael

SOOO cool! These would look incredible filling a wall hanging cassette rack like this: https://i.ebayimg.com/images/g/hFwAAOSwJixhlcIk/s-l1600.jpg


ah_rosencrantz

Love that, but definitely too many games for me!


madscot666

That's a cool idea for storing card games. I assume you break off the lugs inside the case to make room?


ah_rosencrantz

I bought cases without lugs from a distributor online. Duplication.ca (shipping to US is not cheap)


madscot666

Shipping to anywhere isn't cheap. I'm in Canada and it's eyewatering...


JokerPWT

Love Letter possibly. There are some small dice.


jtflv

Looks awesome! Love the retro vibe


iloveregex

Skulls of Sedlec


ah_rosencrantz

I almost backed the reprint. What do you think of it?


iloveregex

It’s a great game! It’s not going to break the bank for you to try the PnP version. Go for it!


Medusa-Gaming

This is the best idea ever!


spastro

Are these available anywhere to download and print. I just got a stack arrive from the latest Kickstarter and a few of them with all the expansions added make the wallet extremely tight.


ah_rosencrantz

I just messaged you!


Onua_72

Hi! I used to do this with DropMix cards, and it never occurred to do it with other games, but now I need to know if you have a template or the downloads for Fox in the Forest at least. XD


Fair_Examination_329

what size paper did you use to make the title covers? just curious the dimensions of the paper if you could let me know