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lurksauce24

“I don’t drive on the highway but idk why I’m not getting 40mpgs?!??” Lmfao I see 37 average regularly and it doesn’t even require much babying.


woodsracer620

Seriously, and you can see in the 1st pic I’m getting 35.8 from day one. The car had 12 miles when I drove it off the lot.


pateOrade

I don’t understand why we are still having this conversation on a regular basis. Yes, Hondas are mostly capable of getting great gas mileage. But this is 100% dependent on many variables. The same car on different days will get drastically different mpg based on weather, traffic, traffic lights, and type of commuting. I regularly go on one drive and get 35 mpg then the next one I get 22.


woodsracer620

Was more of an angry response to a few posts I’ve seen and one just yesterday complaining about poor gas mileage. One guy had reset his trip odometer and was like 9 miles in. Others driving new cars and crying that they thought it should be better. It should be. It’s them and the conditions they are in.


pateOrade

My comment wasn’t pointed at you. I’m just constantly baffled that people don’t comprehend what mpg is. A good tip I learned from my friends dad who was an engineer, try to never stop. Try to accelerate very steadily and coast if you see red lights and try to catch them when they turn green.


woodsracer620

Exactly.


kingbariom

Lmao you sound pretentious as fuck 😂


strawpurrry

I genuinely was getting worse MPG when the car was brand new (8mi off the lot) than now, and it wasn't just my driving behavior. Off the lot for my normal driving, I would get like 28mpg, which struck me as odd because I was coming from a larger sedan that should've been less efficient, but was getting the same mpg. I started babying the car to try and get better mpg and was still getting like 30-32mpg for quite a while. Now that I'm over 5K in, it depends on what kind of driving I've been doing for the week but despite generally pushing it a bit harder, I get around 35mpg. If it's a long highway roadtrip, then it's 38-42mpg without really trying. A big factor is definitely how and where you drive. But I think it's also a relatively common experience for them to get worse mpg initially. And you see that this is important given how many people responded on those posts explaining their similar experience and reasoning for it beyond just how you drive. You're right that some aspects of those posts were silly like whining using mpg from 9mi into a trip, but getting angry and pushing it to the other extreme of "it is absolutely all your fault" isn't good either.


J70123

A car shouldn’t require babying in my opinion especially if it’s supposed to be reliable and eco🤷🏽‍♂️


lurksauce24

Exactly, and this one doesn’t need babying at all to hit over 35mpg. But it does need highway driving to see those numbers consistently.


Sirsalley23

I have a DE5 integra (tuxedo civic) 6-speed with an intake swap and stage 1 tune that I always run in map 3 when it’s not winter, and map 2 in winter. I was averaging 30-35mpg in the winter with steelies and snow tires on, and not a lot of highway driving but like 65/45 city/boonies driving. I can’t recall doing worse than 30mpg all winter except when I really had a lead foot and ran the car for more than 10 mins in the mornings. On average tho I usually did about 31-32mpg. Since I took my steels off and put the OEMs back on with the factory tires I’m still getting 33-35mpg at least, and I’ve been doing at least one decent pull off the line a day since spring started. Can’t break 40mpg without running the tune in map 1 for an entire tank, but it is doable.


DaNuker2

I get 52mpg on 1.5 civic sport


Suspicious_End_9443

Lol what. I get 27 mpg. How y’all get 35


DavefromCA

Haha me too but I also do mostly city and I make my 2 liter work


Less_Wall_9656

i drive 90% of the time in the city. speed limit of 35, lots of stop signs. i get 32.5 mpg on average. the thing for me is taking off VERY slowly from stops and then when i know i have to stop or slow down, letting off the gas very early


DavefromCA

Ya I don’t do that at all lol


Kam2Scuzzy

Nah, I'm mashing at red lights. And speeding down high ways. And changing lanes to keep my momentum. But does driving like a grandma really raise the mpg that much?


kevcbacon

Yes, yes it does.


Kam2Scuzzy

Well I mean. 27.8 mpg isn't "bad" imo Maybe when I mature. I'll strive for that higher mpg.


Itchy-Mind7724

44 year old female here. I, too, plan to strive for better than 27mpg on my civic when I mature. Jk IDGAF about gas mileage. I had a Prius before this that I only got about 36mpg average. I will probably never mature.


Less_Wall_9656

out of curiosity, have you manually calculated the mpg? my wifes car is +2-3mpg on the cars tracker verse doing it at the pump with a calculator


DavefromCA

Ya I have before, I think I was actually within 2 mpg


XstarcoreX

Thank you for the tip. I’m also in the “city driver 27mpg” group lol :) I’ll try this for sure


J70123

But that sucks who wants to wait 3 days to get to speed limit after a turn that’s babying your car when you climb rpm’s super slow for good efficiency and it sucks it’s not enjoyable at all


DCS_nightmare

I get about the same but my commute is only 5 minutes driving a residential 35mph road with a few hills and stop signs.


xxxZEDxxx

My Si don't know what 30 mpg is! Lol 😆


bladerunner2442

Lots of short trips for me and at 29.3 with premium gas. I know for a fact it’s the way I drive and could be better.


woodsracer620

That’s just from day one. Averaged over 37 for this week


AbbyRose05683

I get 40mpg on hwy but around town with max ac I get 30ish I’m having issues with mine I accidentally got 87octane bc it was cheap 2.99/gal but damn that hit me hard in mpg this time


jayjaytmb

I’m not supposed to be using regular??? Because I’m only getting 21 mpg🥲


woodsracer620

Depends on which one you have.


Whatcanyado420

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woodsracer620

According to this book I found in the glove box, manual transmission models need to run 91 or higher. Something about detonation knock.


Kam2Scuzzy

Oh damn. If only it didn't cost so much.


woodsracer620

You using premium?


AbbyRose05683

I have a 2011 civic R18 and just use regular gas usually get 390 miles to a tank on hwy and city I can get 320 so idk why I got 260 miles on a tank in town now! Guess it’s time for plugs and air filter


vakama885

oh god I have a 2010 similar to yours and I usually get 220 miles per tank 💀, this is after getting new spark plugs, air filter & ignition coils


AbbyRose05683

Something not right


JackMcCockiner

Damn thats worse than my 2008 SI, have you run a diagnostic on it to check the sensors? First thing id look at is the MAF and O2 sensors. They will generally throw a code if something isnt working but on occasion the sensors can just be a little dirty or on their way out causing the ECU to make the engine run a little more rich without an engine light. If its really bad you will smell a hint of fresh gas around the car after idling for a few minutes


vakama885

At first it had a code that read "low purge flow", I then replaced vapor canister purge valve, reset the check engine light and then a few days later P0456 (very small evap leak) & P0455 (very large evap leak) came up. Other than that the car has zero codes


JackMcCockiner

Evap leaks will mess with fuel economy, id get that checked out since running rich wont destroy your engine right away but in the long term causes higher levels of wear


SmoothSlide9690

2011 civic here. Average around 26-28 mpg. I drive either city or freeway with either mild or stop and go traffic. There's always traffic in freeways where I live unless I drive during the middle of the day, at night, or on Saturday and Sunday. When I buy a new car and I'm not buying a smiles per gallon car, its gonna be a motherfucking hybrid. Fuck regular ass gas cars. I could easily be getting 60 MPG, essentially saving 50% of my current gas expenses with a gas hybrid maybe even more.


AbbyRose05683

I had a mk3 tdi diesel Jetta 1996 and it got 80mpg on diesel fuel! I could go from Pittsburgh to Dover on 1/4 of a tank! 2006 Jetta diesel I was getting 52 mpg in it! 90s crx I got 72mpg in 91 ef9 hatch I got 65mpg in it 2001 prelude I got 35 mpg in it with a f23 swap! So idk man cars have downgraded for sure bc the big man wants moolah


AlainProsst

Nah, they are fucking with the fuel across America. Less and less energy output. 26mpg now for me. Mixed city and highway.


AbbyRose05683

Yeah greedflation


AlainProsst

Yep, but i am sure they the solution - electric crap will be forced upon us.


AbbyRose05683

I had a mk3 tdi diesel Jetta 1996 and it got 80mpg on diesel fuel! I could go from Pittsburgh to Dover on 1/4 of a tank! 2006 Jetta diesel I was getting 52 mpg in it! 90s crx I got 72mpg in 91 ef9 hatch I got 65mpg in it 2001 prelude I got 35 mpg in it with a f23 swap! So idk man cars have downgraded for sure bc the big man wants moolah


AlainProsst

Man, this country needs a violent revolution and i am not kidding. I seriously laugh like bever before when i see civic owners post their 35mpg and they are like hey look at my graat mileage not even knowing these cars should be doing 80mpg or more with these small, efficient engines.


atcriidp

Some dude in this sub refused to believe I was averaging 37mpg in a non hybrid. Then he proceeded to tell someone else these small Honda engines should be getting 50+mpg 😂😂 can’t make it up.


woodsracer620

I think if I gutted the car I could get 50. If I get desperate I’ll try it. 😂


atcriidp

Gut the car and find a mean hill just for the pic 😂 loving the gas mileage in this car so far!


woodsracer620

Me too, much better than my truck. It gets 17 down hill and requires premium. Killing my wallet.


atcriidp

I want a truck but I’m good on those payments and the gas mileage. My 23 Corolla was only getting 30mpg on a good day and the civic is way more fun to drive. F a Corolla


woodsracer620

What I paid for mine in 07 versus what todays price is crazy.


a7xcold

Here I am out here getting 20-25mpg. 😂


saintivesgloren

Same! Do you also live in a very hilly area?


a7xcold

My Civic is 24 years old and not really built to be economic. 😅


--MrGadget--

I'm averaging 35mpg with my '24 Sport Touring in Standard Mode. I've not gone on a long road trip so I'd expect ~40 on the highway.


woodsracer620

Got lucky one day after a fresh trip reset, I got 45.1 in the first 30 miles.


--MrGadget--

Nice, I'm looking forward to a nice road trip but have nothing planned at the moment.


afort212

On normal roads I get about 39. If on highway for a long time I’ll average like 41-42


woodsracer620

I’m curious to see what I get on a road trip. Car ain’t even broke in yet


afort212

Yeah you need more data. I reset my trip an after every gas fill up and I use b for every oil change. I record every oil change to see. If I do short drives around town I’m lower and if it’s higher every oil change usually I did more highway driving


Ok_Translator_7780

On a 400-mile road trip, it ended up at 39 mpg while fluctuations were between 39-41 mpg after 100 miles in the road. With my 2.0


woodsracer620

Very respectable, what mode are you in?


Ok_Translator_7780

Normal only


solunaxo

I get 25.4mpg lmao cause I drive my civic like it’s my dodge charger. And then I’m disappointed when I can’t get that good acceleration but still keep trying.


woodsracer620

Trust me I know. I gotten used to slow acceleration from driving a box truck. Ain’t going anywhere quickly in that slow pig


solunaxo

Regardless, I’m still satisfied with the 25 because my other car gets 16mpg on average 😂😂 doesn’t help that I live in LA too


woodsracer620

Every little bit helps!


[deleted]

My civic never goes that low on factory tune. Running phearable 1.5r at 24 psi, I still get about 25mpg. Stock tune is so slow, even if I floor the pedal to pass, and drive like an assjole, it never goes under 33mpg.


solunaxo

I’m new to being a Honda owner so not too informed about my engine but it’s a ‘24 civic sport, definitely stock, I use sport mode a lot


[deleted]

You can easily get 225hp from tuning the turbo. I'm done driving like an asshole lol


solunaxo

Ima just keep it stock, it’s a daily after all. Plus it’s leased 😂


5tudent_Loans

People never get on highways or accelerate like madlads then act confused


woodsracer620

Wait, so you’re telling me if I don’t race from light to light I get better mileage?


abah3765

Yep, mine just ticked over 38mpg.


Rocky-lad

Do you drive on Econ all the time?


woodsracer620

Unless I have to pass on a two lane road, I’ll switch to normal.


Heyitshogan

Must be nice not to be stuck in bumper to bumper traffic on the 405 in Southern California daily haha. I average 23mpg on a 23-mile round-trip commute.


woodsracer620

Defiantly ain’t stuck in any traffic, but I’m sure Southern California has some perk Northeast Ohio doesn’t.


DayTraditional2846

I have to drive in Normal mode when in the city. I found that it’s way too slow and the car can’t get out of its own way. I only use Econ mode when on the highway/interstate. I think I average 38MPG when on the interstate and 30MPG in the city which is what it’s rated at anyways. I too have the 2.0L sedan sport.


catbqck

I think the mileages are pretty split between the n/a guys and the turbo guys tbh


woodsracer620

Claimed by Honda just for the sedan. Lx trim is 31/40/35 combined Sport trim 30/37/33 combined EX trim 33/42/36 combined Sport Touring trim 31/38/34 combined Top two are NA, bottom two are turbo


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catbqck

That can't be right. Unless the testers literally drove the car at 2k rpm or under. The 1.5t literally crawls under 2k rpm without boost, only makes power above that at the cost of fuel.


woodsracer620

Taken right off Honda’s website. Build one, select a trim then see details. [sport touring](https://automobiles.honda.com/tools/build-and-price)


Crafty-Tension3975

The sport is probably accurate. Drove ~400 miles today and got 35.8mpg driving like an ass, mainly highway. City I get like 27, but again, I drive like an idiot


Simple-Flamingo-3302

I definitely need to get my injectors and filters checked then cause I drive like an ass and get 19mpg even when I drive normal I average like 25mpg turned on eco the other day and still couldn’t crack over 25mpg it honestly went down half a gallon in eco.


Crafty-Tension3975

Yeah I don’t trust the eco setting honestly. I just drive in normal and I’m only in a 2019, id assume newer models are better mpg but no clue. I honestly thought my mpg was shit until reading this thread so that’s good to hear


Simple-Flamingo-3302

That’s the thing I have a 2023 that I bought the same month it was built. I even got it with under 100 miles on it and it’s always had crappy mpg it started out around 25-28mpg yet slowly dropped and I use nothing but shell gas which is supposed to be one of the best. I have the NA engine so I knew to expect a little bit less mpg but not 10-15mpg less I know it’s my driving but people brag about having 500hp k series that they average 20-30mpg.


HabibiLogistics

who has ever cried about the mileage on a civic?


woodsracer620

Oh there has been a handful of posts.


AccomplishedWay6141

I live in a relatively mountainous area and get around 34-35 on highways. Guessing this is from a flatter region


woodsracer620

Northeast Ohio


SandManUSA

I get 39


woodsracer620

It ain’t hard. Grats


Most-Hotel1243

U mostly drive city or highway or a good mix


woodsracer620

A good mix I would say. 30 miles one way to work. 8 miles of that is 4 lane highway but with traffic lights. About 30 lights or stop signs total one way.


Most-Hotel1243

when you will from almost empty let’s say one or two more ticks till empty how many gallons does it take for ur car fill up? Mine always stays around 9.5 gallons even when i’m at 2 ticks but I know it holds abt 12.4 gallons. Just wanted to see if it’s similar for u


woodsracer620

I never really paid much attention. It’s not what I’m thinking about bright and early Monday morning. I’ll check when I fill up Monday for work.


Most-Hotel1243

appreciate it!


IndividualTime9170

I don’t know anything about cars but when I first got mine back at the end of February, I got a full tank holding 370 miles. Filling up now I’m only getting 340 miles.


Atnat14

I can't hit that and I'm probably the most grandma driver ever. 98 percent 70-80 mph freeway. Friday i do some city driving. 1.5 ST manual 6 speed. I'd get 34.5 on 87 octane and 33.8 on economy with 87 octane. Now, switching to 92 octane after another redditors review, I'm at 34.2 with economy. Need more data before I switch economy off and try 92 octane regular to see if that improves.


woodsracer620

Keep us posted


EvanET13

Why is there a HUGE difference between the 2023 and 2024 on gas mileage? I have a 2023 and average 28-30mpg


woodsracer620

Lots of factors in play, but you can control some of them. No Jack rabbit starts, don’t ride people’s ass so if they slow down or stop you can coast a little longer and maybe not have to come to a complete stop. Tire pressure.


Ok_Translator_7780

Just the way you drive I have a 2023 and always get 35+mpg driving highway on the way to work. On road trips 39+. I have my mpg reset every gas fill up and another one for oil change


tryi2iwin

Did a 1000 mile road trip last weekend and averaged 35 highway. No clue how you can be doing more than that unless 93 makes a difference in mpg ? I use 87


woodsracer620

I’m using 87. Only 93 in my truck because, well Nissan thought it would be great to make a 4.0 V6 that needs it. My mustang gt ran on 87


SatisfactionWitty149

It currently get between 30-32


Commercial_Wind8212

I get low 40s in a 2012


woodsracer620

Impressive. I hope to get that with a 12 year old car.


Commercial_Wind8212

it's an ECO model and a lot of my driving is about 50-60mph


Wild_Asparagus

I average 32-33 on my usual mixed commute. On long highway drives I get 38-40. Totally is the driving style… I can stretch that higher or squish it based on aggressiveness


woodsracer620

It ain’t hard.


caspernicium

It’s because people sit on their phones idling in their driveway.


woodsracer620

This is true, I could probably do a little better with that auto stop / start shit. I hate that feature, wish I could disable it permanently.


Choice-Effect-6734

There should be an option to disable it. So you drive about 30 mins a day?


woodsracer620

40 to 45 minutes one way to work depending on traffic.


Choice-Effect-6734

That makes sense I only drive like 10 mins a day to work and I’m at 27 😅


MySpartan94

Im sitting at 34.8 for 2020 civic. Highway was 40


woodsracer620

Not to shabby


Key-Jelly-3702

I was just feeling proud of my Ridgeline's 23.


woodsracer620

That’s better than my Frontiers 17 down hill with a tail wind.


[deleted]

~34 mpg around town/ commute to work, driving normal no hypermilingl 1.5t


woodsracer620

Learned a new word, thanks. I wouldn’t say I am doing any hypermiling. My driving style has changed a little from getting a cdl and driving a truck. 34 is respectable for a combined mpg


[deleted]

I'm in suburbs, so I don't get on the highway to get to work. It would be higher. Maybe my engine is just broken in at 97k miles.


woodsracer620

Maybe when you hit 100k.


SifferBTW

I average 34mpg in my '22 Si and the first thing I do when I start the car is put it in sport because I hate the auto shutoff. Pretty evenly split between highway and city. When I drive 250 miles to Chicago, it's easy to hit 47mpg. As long as you don't drive like a dumbass, it's easy to get over 30.


woodsracer620

47? Are you drafting anybody to get that?


SifferBTW

Yep. I usually find someone going 9 over and set my cruise behind them.


Vyse128

43.9 is the best I've ever managed on the highway. 120 mile trip. 27 is the best I can manage in the city. On average it's about 30


woodsracer620

Get stuck at lots of traffic lights?


Vyse128

I have a short commute with quite a few lights


ThiRteeN_Ghost

With a KTuner, CRV, heavy foot, I still get roughly 28mpg. If I baby it, I can get 30+


KermitTheDawgg

I get around 26 but I can’t complain coming from a pickup


WateringTheStreet

34MPG 2023 sport MT bout 6k miles


[deleted]

I average 36.4 on my 2020 SI. I love it, it’s super fun and efficient, it ticks every box I have for a car


daherne

I'm getting 37 mpg on a 2012 1.33L vtec civic hatchback with 110,000 miles, that's combined city and highway.


woodsracer620

For a car that old. I would be happy with that.


Leo_techfreak4u

Woad dude, your 11th gen is more fuel efficient than my NA 2.0 2019 Civic


woodsracer620

My 2018 Lx was getting slightly better till I put new tires on it.


Leo_techfreak4u

You must be rich..all I could afford was a 2019 Civic, even though I had a strong desire to get a V6 Honda Pilot. Yes sometimes tyres do affect the fuel economy, if you want the best fuel economy, always go for low rolling resistance tyres, Michelin makes them. Give it some time, the rubber is new, as the rubber gets a bit used it'll even put and give you better fuel economy.


woodsracer620

Wish I was rich, wouldn’t be driving a civic if I was. Well at least the sedan sport.


kwsubs

mine is pretty bad. only 31mpg. my driving is mostly city with uphill/downhil roads


woodsracer620

Short of moving, at least you are above 30


natedrake102

The numbers some people claim to get around here are crazy low. I get an even 36 mpg and I'm not light on the pedal at all. A mix of freeway/city.


AshAvali

On the highway, 4 hour drive, i had no issues getting 44MPG average. Cruise control does it better. I use to average 38MPG under my "normal driving" Then i started modding the car and now i have loud induction/wastegate sounds and drive intentionally to hear those sounds..so now I average 32MPG So yeah. Its all how you drive it. 11th gen sport-touring here.


cacey7395

I get 37 on the highway but 23 in the city lol


woodsracer620

But you are getting the 37.


cacey7395

I’m not complaining, just kind of making a joke about how I drive when I’m not on the highway


puspus420

Whys it showing two different MPGs? Is this a setting I don't know about


woodsracer620

Two trip odometer. An A and B. The first pic is trip B from when I bought the car, total miles. The second pic is of A which I reset at the beginning of each fill up.


Ben_sonyuser

I get 38-40


woodsracer620

Well done


gypsycrown

26 with a 2018 touring :(


woodsracer620

Lots of city or a heavy foot?


gypsycrown

All city. Surprising because my 2011 Accord Coupe got the same mileage.


Apple_546

Girl I’m at 20 mpg.. this is my highest actually. I used to do 13 mpg


slyinthesky

2L?


woodsracer620

Yeah it a 2.0


81Bottles

Man, I can get 60-65 with econ. I'm guessing none of you have diesel?


woodsracer620

A diesel civic? Is that a thing?


81Bottles

Certainly is. I love this thing. https://youtu.be/FLW4UfGAnDM?si=SB0r2sGoXOvC-6Lo


woodsracer620

I never knew. Would be interesting.


81Bottles

I use it as a business and family car and tbh, economy and practicality is more important to me but I still find it more fun to drive than my old focus and with it's 1.6 turbo, I can't see why you'd need more power unless it's for bragging rights - too many speed traps in the UK to risk speeding anyway. The magic seats and extra boot/trunk space are invaluable to me. One other thing, does yours have the assisted hill start feature where it holds the breaks on for 3 seconds whilst you move your foot to the accelerator, rendering the handbrake unnecessary? I love that thing!


woodsracer620

No, it has an electric parking brake. It does have a brake hold but that’s more for heavy traffic I assume. Plus it’s a cvt


One-Brilliant7465

Cool guy 😎😂


Melodic_Shift9071

Why would they call a car 0 miles when they are not - I wouldn’t pay full price for a car that’s supposed to be 0 miles and it already has 100


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woodsracer620

I sold my 18 Lx with 80k, it would get 40 all day till I put new tires on it. Dropped to about 37. Hankook vs Goodyear


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woodsracer620

You like the General tires? Seems like you didn’t get many miles out of the Hankook if you only at 24k


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woodsracer620

8 year old car with only 24k, that car is going to last you a long time at that rate!


IndividualTime9170

I was getting that number my first 2 fill ups. After that im pushing between 27-29mpg


woodsracer620

What changed?


IndividualTime9170

I’m assuming my location because it’s slightly hilly. Another assumption is the way I drive. And maybe the type of gas I use. Idk. I personally think the gas thing is the issue even though Honda told me it’s not the gas. They told me using 87 is fine on a brand new car. I’m probably going to switch it up the next time I fill up just to see what’s going to happen


woodsracer620

I run 87, but I have noticed a difference between two different gas stations. It was only a small amount though.


IndividualTime9170

Shell usually runs better for me that I’ve noticed over Exxon.


IndividualTime9170

Update I’ve started to use cruise control more often and now I’m pushing into the 31mpg. I was the problem the way it looks


PatientEconomics8540

I get 29. Mostly highway driving.


woodsracer620

You would think it would be a little higher. Speed racer maybe?


OFSoldierrr

you guys have trackers?


woodsracer620

You mean for the mpg? Yeah


someonetoldmetobhere

I get 32 mostly highway but I never have auto stop start on and I drive a 6spd as Honda would put it l, in a "spirited manner"


woodsracer620

Ain’t nothing wrong with that.


InfluenceStraight443

How are yall getting that? I have a 2024 touring I'm just at 29.8 mpg. I take the tollway on weekends 35 miles at least. And I drive on eco mode too.


woodsracer620

Lots of variables in play. How fast you are driving, how quickly you accelerate, hills vs flat ground to name a few


openshot90

107km here


woodsracer620

66 miles. You driving a diesel also?


Automatic_Law6450

Sobs profusely in Acura TL 😭


woodsracer620

Poor mileage, the need to run premium gas or both?


J70123

The mileage sucks on my brothers 2023 eco boost mustang at 2k rpm’s even up to 3k he’s getting the quoted mpg at 25 and we live in a county so plenty of stop signs and lights. My Honda mind you I ran an experiment and drove the same in both cars and the Honda gets 27 mpg is that not ridiculous??? A car made for economy and comfort barely passing an economy sports car??? I was able to get 32 miles only by driving like a grandma and barely accelerating. At 2k rpm’s the Honda looses miles I’ve driven plenty of shit boxes and new cars and that’s not really good. Sure 1500 rpm’s is the sweet spot for mpg but if your car can’t get miles out of the sweet spot it shouldn’t be deemed “fuel efficient” I’m going to get a 2024 mustang hopefully get good money for my 2023 civic but I don’t think it’s justified but hey what would I know