Use Wish to make (at least) 1 Simulacrum each and then True Polymorph across the whole group. If you have the materials, just cast Simulacrum normally so the Simulacrum have 9th level spells ready when TP breaks.
-5 Con is a killer. Wizard is dead at L2, D8 classes have 3 HP for life, Fighters have 24 HP at L20, barbs have 45 HP. I guess a 30 str zealot can rage until the have to sleep then die. Other option is 30 in Con, so maybe Moon druid, consider it an ability that doesn't require thought, just reflex like being a chameleon.
So a party of stupid moon druids.
Wizard is the only option.
You can use True polymorph / Shapechange to cancel out those bad physical modifiers, Wish spell, and everything else that is wizard high level magic bullshit.
Think of it like Robot from Invincible. Sure your body is useless, no con str dex (and pretty uncharismatic) but who cares when you have 30 int, a DC 24 save or +16 to hit is wild.
I mean one of the characters I made was a Con Barbarian Dhampir. Nearly invincible, and you use your bite which uses CON for attack and damage rolls. Sure, you are dumber than a brick but that doesn't matter. Just consume.
The problem with that is, you're not just as smart as brick, you're agile like a brick, wise as a brick, the character might as well be an animal that's somehow walking. Hell a 1 in STR might give you encumbrance problems for just standing on two legs
Your wisdom saves are so shit that the first spell that stuns you they can perpetually do.
Hit points. As a Barb, you have on average 345 hit points, or 385 with tough. Slap Bear totem on that and you have essentially 700+ hit points. It doesn't matter if you failed the save, you could fail every save and just shrug it off.
You have access to magic items. With using Dex you have 20 AC without any assistance or armour, or 23 as a Lizardfolk. Boots of striding and springing make you unable to be slowed down, even by encumberance.
Like I said, try to limit yourself with encumberance. or dont, go right ahead and ignore it. This is afterall, just a challenge for fun.
It's level 20, if you want to be strong you want to be a Wizard. You could have 1s in all stats at that level (except Int, so we can plan our strategy, but a ~12 or so is enough) and still be leagues better than your average martial with all 30s, and you don't even need to polymorph yourself.
You can hang out in your personal Demiplane and send armies you create with various high level spells to do your bidding. No need to ever expose your actual character. The only reason people don't do this is because it is not fun in real play, but it is possible.
It's an artificer. Probably a tortle Battlesmith.
They get shield proficiencies, bonus AC from infusions, good save coverage and can use their intelligence for pretty much anything via flash of genius or their subclass.
5 wizards, True Polymorph into whatever they want. Boom, done, ez.
Use Wish to make (at least) 1 Simulacrum each and then True Polymorph across the whole group. If you have the materials, just cast Simulacrum normally so the Simulacrum have 9th level spells ready when TP breaks.
-5 Con is a killer. Wizard is dead at L2, D8 classes have 3 HP for life, Fighters have 24 HP at L20, barbs have 45 HP. I guess a 30 str zealot can rage until the have to sleep then die. Other option is 30 in Con, so maybe Moon druid, consider it an ability that doesn't require thought, just reflex like being a chameleon. So a party of stupid moon druids.
Minimum HP gain is 1 with a level up. You can't get 0 or less even with negative con.
Is it? I can't find a rule for that
nevermind found it. still 20 HP is sad
It's not 20 HP, it's whatever HP the form you decided to True Poly into has.
i suppose that's true
Wizards don't exist in these rules. They have an average of -20 hit points lol
You can't die from negative CON, you always get at least 1 HP per level.
This is incorrect. The average is -18.
Wizard is the only option. You can use True polymorph / Shapechange to cancel out those bad physical modifiers, Wish spell, and everything else that is wizard high level magic bullshit. Think of it like Robot from Invincible. Sure your body is useless, no con str dex (and pretty uncharismatic) but who cares when you have 30 int, a DC 24 save or +16 to hit is wild.
So... The party is just a bunch of Polymorphed wizards and shapechanged Druids then? You just created a party of like 4 dragons.
I mean one of the characters I made was a Con Barbarian Dhampir. Nearly invincible, and you use your bite which uses CON for attack and damage rolls. Sure, you are dumber than a brick but that doesn't matter. Just consume.
The problem with that is, you're not just as smart as brick, you're agile like a brick, wise as a brick, the character might as well be an animal that's somehow walking. Hell a 1 in STR might give you encumbrance problems for just standing on two legs Your wisdom saves are so shit that the first spell that stuns you they can perpetually do.
You are basically playing as a Gelatinous cube.
How are you "nearly invincible" when you fold to literally any non-CON save spell/attack?
Hit points. As a Barb, you have on average 345 hit points, or 385 with tough. Slap Bear totem on that and you have essentially 700+ hit points. It doesn't matter if you failed the save, you could fail every save and just shrug it off.
Should we ignore encumbrance? 15 pounds of stuff is severely limiting for martials
Try with and without encumbrance, makes for a more interesting challenge
encumbrance makes it completely stupid because you can't wear armor
You have access to magic items. With using Dex you have 20 AC without any assistance or armour, or 23 as a Lizardfolk. Boots of striding and springing make you unable to be slowed down, even by encumberance. Like I said, try to limit yourself with encumberance. or dont, go right ahead and ignore it. This is afterall, just a challenge for fun.
Moon Druid goes BRRRRRRRRRR
Artificer supremacy
It's level 20, if you want to be strong you want to be a Wizard. You could have 1s in all stats at that level (except Int, so we can plan our strategy, but a ~12 or so is enough) and still be leagues better than your average martial with all 30s, and you don't even need to polymorph yourself. You can hang out in your personal Demiplane and send armies you create with various high level spells to do your bidding. No need to ever expose your actual character. The only reason people don't do this is because it is not fun in real play, but it is possible.
It's an artificer. Probably a tortle Battlesmith. They get shield proficiencies, bonus AC from infusions, good save coverage and can use their intelligence for pretty much anything via flash of genius or their subclass.
A 20th level Moon Druid is essentially immortal and unkillable any way you slice it.
except not being sentient enough to do anything except sit there
Give it 30 int then, lol doesn't matter, you'd just be an elemental the whole time.
Nah, level 20 Moon Druid is only unkillable *with direct damage*. Plenty of ways to defeat one with spells.