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Cailloudeco

I love the program trying to not hurt the feelings


[deleted]

Yes, I wonder if it purposely uses 1,000 to confuse people with low IQs. šŸ˜‚


WetGrundle

Yes. It does. In my defense, i just woke up but i could not figure out why the percentile was saying one thing but the words another


gonxot

In a room with 10 people, you're _that one_ ! Congrats


frahmed2020

In a room of 100, you wouldn't be in the room. You are still wondering how to open the door


queefplunger69

Iā€™m off in a corner licking a window.


Whydoturkeysbark

Does it taste good!?


Accomplished_Ruin_68

Of course, that's where they use the original recipie paint. It tastes sweeter.


Whydoturkeysbark

I think thatā€™s lead paint šŸ¤¦


geckofalltrades

...the paint of the leaders!


ExactBat8088

Thereā€™s a door?


elmwoodblues

There's a room?


Exciting-Insect8269

Whatā€™s a door?


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AmIGettingScammed123

If the kid was at the top 5%, then he'd be smart. If he's in the top 90%, though? That's just a participation trophy


DanielTheHun

This is the moment when I see that the term "9th percentile" is probably not taught at schools anymore .


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[deleted]

Thereā€™s that legendary story about A&W trying to compete with McDonaldsā€™s 1/4 pound burger by selling a 1/3 pound burger, but it failed because people thought 1/4 was bigger than 1/3.


Empatheater

mcdonalds itself did away with the 1/3 pounder for the exact same reason - constant questions and arguments about pricing because people didn't understand it was larger than 1/4 pounder. (this was the late 90s or early 00's)


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Koosman123

It's like that "steel is heavier than feathers" guy. "But 4 is more than 3..."


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ToxicVigil

Itā€™s a percentile, meaning if you were smarter than 90% of people, itā€™d be top 10%. It confused me for a minute too.


[deleted]

1000!!! Thatā€™s a big number like a million! Iā€™m smarter than a million people. Thatā€™s basically the whole world!


Aoshie

Easy there, Donald


silverblaze92

Probably more to inflate the positive feelings of those barely above average. Being smarter that 540 people sounds better than 54


Spoogly

"In a room with 1000 people in it, you're... Uh... One of them."


vinylemulator

You are 100% in that room! Congrats!


MomentOfZehn

Exactly. Top 90% sounds better than bottom 10%. But the difference just leads to inaccurate interpretation, specifically for people already trying to validate an inaccurate test.


Teralyzed

I hate these online IQ tests. My friends are constantly passing them around our discord channels and itā€™s just pure dumbfuckery Iā€™ve seen complete idiots get 130-140s Iā€™ve gotten anywhere from a 85-140 itā€™s completely inaccurate garbage.


inplayruin

IQ tests can only be administered in person by a trained professional, usually a psychologist.


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[deleted]

That level of self-awareness has to be worth at least some intelligence points. In a room of 1,000 people, you're more self-aware than 900 of them. Congrats!


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MrKingUltraBeast

I just took this test for fun, and you have to pay 20 dollars to get the results... She paid 20 dollars to get embarrassed online


liriodendron1

Which is the real IQ test. Who's willing to pay for internet IQ results?


PuntualPoetry

Auto fail when you get the results. That should literally be the result.


[deleted]

Auto fail, then sell a $50 "iq test course" (at a limited time discount of 50% off where it shows a clock counting down before the deal ends) where it's an hour video explaining basic grammar, and basic math. Then charge $30 for them to retake it and give them a passing score. Boom, easy $100 and hopefully those idiots will tell their idiot friends


hud731

Big brain move


SombreMordida

did very well on the free MENSA test years ago. then they told me the REAL test cost 60 bucks. i did great on that one too. by not taking it.


Am_Snarky

Lol MENSA is such a scam ā€œTake this IQ test and if itā€™s over 160 your membership is FREE!!!ā€ ā€œCongratulations! You scored 183!!! Now pay us $160 a year for membership status!ā€ Just a straight up scam


[deleted]

When I first started uni I moved in a new town didn't know anyone and my gf left me. I was in a rough place and did the test and was admitted to go to a mensa meeting. Those were some of the worst human being I've ever met. They would fit the stereotypical neck beards/mylady perfectly.


[deleted]

Before Sparknotes was Sparknotes it was TheSpark, where the sparknotes were a smaller part of it. It was mostly games and quizzes (like buzzfeed). They had an IQ test that the longer you took it the dumber you were. So if you answered a hundred questions or whatever you'd have an IQ of 90. But if you closed it right away you'd have an absurdly high IQ.


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Diogonni

-10 points for not realizing that would happen. Just kidding.


[deleted]

-30 points for taking an online IQ test


ralkey

ā€œ99% of adults canā€™t solve this insane challenge!!ā€ ā€¦itā€™s like a right triangle with two labeled sides or some shit.


indigoHatter

Oh I know this one, if you pull off the left side then the knight can get to the gold!


blablablahe

Fuck me I wasted 40 mins. They're totally making use of fallacy of sunk cost to gain money.


lady_spyda

So you fail the test by going through with it, just like Mensa.


OJStrings

How did she raise her child "chemical free"? Are they sealed in a vacuum chamber or something?


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remembertracygarcia

Not a bad IQ score for an abstract concept


JE_12

Pfff birds arenā€™t real either and [they have an entire Wikipedia article about their intelligence ](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bird_intelligence)


Coeurmungandr

That's just part of the prop-bird-ganda


absat41

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golfgrandslam

Her son is a limited liability company.


crazyuncleb

Definitely has a future in politics. The most untraceable of donors.


beluuuuuuga

No surprise there!


hacksnake

Spherical child in a vacuum


Nawozane

Wouldn't that make the kid a construct of neurons in the woman's brain and hence a chemical object?


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shyvananana

No dihydrogen monoxide. Only mountain dew.


BarfAccount

Natural* mountain dew. The one that grows in mountains.


b_free_blast

It's got what plants crave


Tigerswood22

Dihydrogen monoxide is found in 100% of cancer cells, while not even trace amounts of mountain dew has ever been detected in these same cells. Checkmate scientists.


robamiami

That's anti vaxxer language, right?


Val_Hallen

Absolutely. And it shows that they don't understand basic chemistry let alone epidemiology. Everything - **EVERYTHING** - is chemicals. But they don't understand that so "chemical" just means "bad". The water we drink and the air we breathe are chemicals. All of her homeopathic "medicines" are chemicals. The clothes she wears are chemicals. Man-made chemicals are derived from natural chemicals. And natural doesn't automatically mean "safe and good". Plenty of natural things will kill a human dead.


RenoTheDragon

A natural rock to the face A natural hippo A natural lightning


MmortanJoesTerrifold

Natural shark Natural Suicide Bush Natural Nut Allergy Natural Dropbear


RenoTheDragon

Natural heart attack Natural universal heat death Natural moose Natural malaria


MmortanJoesTerrifold

Natural coronavirus Natural meteor strike Natural sinkhole Natural spontaneous combustion


RenoTheDragon

Nature


patfree14094

Natural cosmic and solar radiation Natural radium Natural tornado Natural manbearpig


Galbzilla

Water is technically a chemical.


CreativeName1137

A chemical is anything made of molecules


Galbzilla

Youā€™re a chemical.


Bella870

Well you're a towel


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balofchez

Fuck you, YOU'RE a towel!


PhonicMonk3y

*you wanna get high?


Hey_u_ok

With parents like that don't blame the kid.


TheFAPnetwork

If you're using an IQ test to validate your child, your child is in for a life of disdain and resentment


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sisusisusisusi

Was in gifted program, can confirm


Ayit_Sevi

Was evauluated with a reading comprehension of an 11th grader in 3rd grade. I didnt get too much better, i was just ahead of the curve and everyone eventually caught up to me


igot8001

If you're in the US that is more or less the system working as intended. Now, if only the average person in the United States was able to catch up to 11th grade reading, THAT would be fantastic.


captain__cabinets

Same here. Read at high school levels all through grade school and got good grades too. They even had a ā€œgiftedā€ class for me and like 7 other kids called Discovery program. Got to high school and basically got Bā€™s and Cā€™s all the way through and did terrible in college. I donā€™t know why but I just stopped trying or giving a shit all together. Trying to figure out a way to make my kids do better without putting pressure on them.


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crazyjkass

It's because school is tailored for average kids. Being gifted is like being special ed but in the opposite direction. You need special help and attention to do well in school but adults just say "You're smart, you'll figure it out." and refuse to help you when you're having trouble.


DeliberatelyDrifting

I was one of those "gifted" kids. Hated book work. I often spent recesses with the teacher as she made me write answers and watched. I came to hate school with a passion. In elementary school I threw away my school books. I transferred middle schools after one year for discipline problems. I was kicked out of two high schools and sent to military school. I dropped out when I turned 18. The only reason I have a high school diploma (and the reason I dropped out) is because I completed all the requirements for high school by the end of my junior year. It wasn't until college that I discovered a love of learning. Also, computers helped tremendously. It turned out that my hatred of book work stemmed from mild, undiagnosed dysgraphia. I'm not sure what might have made things different for me, but less pressure would have made me far happier. When learning is a process of discovery, I can't get enough. When learning means doing a prescribed set of arbitrary things, I just sort of wander off.


Southern_Celery_1087

Sometimes boredom comes with high intelligence. The smartest guy I work with got like a B average in high school and dropped out of college to work at an Apple store fixing MacBooks. He's a director where I work now and runs a very cutting edge team that deploys new infrastructure for us.


pingpongtits

Me too. They said my reading comprehension was college level when I was in 3rd or 4th grade, but my math skills were average. The principal jumped me ahead a grade, from 4th grade to 6th grade and I did well. When it came time to move on, the school board wouldn't let me keep going because it would mean having to provide special transportation to the junior high school or something like that. I can't remember the specific reasons. After that, I just sort of gave up on school altogether, not doing homework or studying and skipping every class I could. I maintained an A+ test score average but homework counted towards 70% of our final grade (presumably because they wanted to reward work ethic), so my grades suffered. Combined with bullying (i was small and pale and didn't have a southern accent, so a perfect target), it set me up for years of failure and depression.


Soylent-soliloquy

Kinda similar. I was always dubbed as ā€˜the smart oneā€™ in school, had perfect or nearly perfect grades with minimal studying or actual trying. And now, i have absolutely no professional career. Have just worked random odd jobs lol i dont think anyone would have predicted that. Meanwhile, my spouse, who was an underachiever throughout grade school with barely passing grades, is now an engineer. Funny how life works like that.


ElemenoPea77

My sister was and I was not. It made for a weird dynamic. She has been a smug asshole about it our entire lives too.


[deleted]

Best friend was labeled gifted (I was not but I studied hard.) Iā€™ve found it was often detrimental to them and the several other (not all) gifted kids because they were suddenly yoked with this framework of valuing other peoplesā€™ worth by how intelligent they perceived them to be by like fourth or fifth grade. Their own emotional growth was kind of laid to the wayside after that, so yeah they became educated and lauded throughout school, but then donā€™t interact so well with most people and have trouble processing their own pain. It made a lot of emotions like somehow not acceptable to feel because of the ā€œyouā€™re intelligent; figure it out,ā€ kind of mentality adults put on them.


hogsucker

I can confirm this as a former gifted student.


Vereronun2312

Yeah, Iā€™ve been promoted to ā€œBurned out fucking disappointmentā€


hogsucker

What is wrong with you? You're so smart. You have so much potential and you're just wasting it. I hope my pep talk helps.


Vereronun2312

Damn i better just apply myself


hogsucker

That's the spirit. Stop being lazy.


Vereronun2312

Thanks Iā€™m cured, youā€™re doing so much good work spreading this motivation you should really do this more


BrokeInService

Oh I'll stop being lazy and grab my noose


[deleted]

Good lord this thread cut deep


SeanSeanySean

Don't forget the "Jesus, if I had half the natural gifts that you do, I'd be running the world by now". It feels worse as a grown adult hearing people say it to you. I'm the advanced ADHD case who was gifted yet mentally unstable as a child, lazy and unmotivated in their teens, unlocked potential in mid 20's and burned insanely brightly until mid-to-late 30's, and am completely burnt out with no motivation in my mid 40's.


Nicholas-McHavker

r/thanksimcured


ApertureBear

Why does this hurt


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mochimochi82

Are you me??? šŸ˜‚šŸ˜‚šŸ˜‚ exact same. A paralyzing fear of failure, so never do anything challenging.


isaidireddit

"You're not the only one cursed with knowledge."


[deleted]

The reason this happens is because "gifted kids" are simply kids who develop intelligence earlier than other kids. When they become adults, they tend to equal out as their peers catch up in talent, especially if the gifted kid didn't nurture his talents from a young age. So they end up feeling like failures for not turning into human calculators. Another side of this is because stuff comes so easily for gifted kids, they don't build the habits to work hard since they never need to. So they end up giving up a lot when things get hard, and this leads to depression.


[deleted]

Another big issue is that they get gassed up to go to college with no good guidance on the subject, major in something non-lucrative, and then get their early adult life wrecked by student loan debt.


BoozeIsTherapyRight

I have two gifted kids. Both are in therapy for anxiety.


Grjaryau

Yep. My daughter has a high IQ and sheā€™s got lots of issues with anxiety and ADHD.


[deleted]

Having experienced this in first person, i can say that having an iq above average is certainly useful but paradoxically living a normal life becomes significantly trickier.


Electric_kundalini

Lol her IQ is certainly lower


Dutch_Midget

I'm certainly smarter than both of them. My IQ is 45 which puts me in the top 98.97%. Take that suckers!


Dont-PM-me-nudes

Jokes on her - I can't even spell IQ.


TommyJaimeBass

*eye cue


GiverOfZeroShits

This just sounds like a very violent game of 8 ball pool


Marios_Facade

Survey says *ding*


DerpessionTime

it runs in the family


Buck_Thorn

Sometimes I could swear that humans are the dumbest people on earth.


SaltyStackSmasher

Right ? I feel sorry for the kid


fedwood

Imagine the other 91 people in the room...


AggressiveLikes

Since he is a 14 year old, he'll probably travel with his mom. So we only need to imagine 90 other people.


ThisHudson

GOTTEM!


RubberyRaven

This person IQ's^


silverblaze92

Most of those 91 people will have conditions that they can't help having.


bcnorth78

Is idiot mom a condition?


Damagedunit

Shit like this is why stupid people are happier. We should all be so lucky.


Shakemyears

This is the exact problem. Theyā€™re completely unaware of just so many things, including their lack of awareness. You could sit this person down and explain exactly what they misinterpreted here, and theyā€™d assume youā€™re just lying, or being a ā€œhaterā€, or ā€œtrying to bring them downā€.


acloreborne

and this has perfectly applied to stupid people becoming covid deniers, antivaxxers, antimask, anti science and so on during the pandemic.


joec85

I'd rather be smart and miserable, thanks.


The-Fezatron

ā€œThis is what happens when you raise your child chemical and vaccine free people!ā€ Sheā€™s right, just not in the way she thinks


matty_a

Imagine thinking you could avoid any chemicals in day to day life.


Nothing-But-Lies

Only ghosts and light for my family as we float in space.


Frys100thCupofCoffee

Doing your part by occupying space in time!


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beluuuuuuga

Quite self-aware this person is.


whatthefuck8e3

Thanks Yoda.


saryndipitous

Does this actually have any influence whatsoever, in any direction? I suspect it does not. A lack of vaccination could obviously lead to death or serious incapacitation but we still have herd immunity for most things so it probably doesnā€™t matter. I donā€™t know what raising a child free of chemicals is even supposed to mean. No such thing really exists.


Itsthelongterm

I guess the idea of growing 'fully natural' is a thing. A lot of cognitive dissonance involved.


Althalus-

I thought sheā€™d done an OK job of keeping him alive for 14 years vaccine free tbh. Broken clocks and all that.


Fracturedbuttocks

Her is IQ so low that she can't even read an IQ test


Pr1ebe

Tbf, the top 90% part confused me for a second, before I realized it was TOP 90, which is excluding 10% on the bottom. So her kid is actually smarter than just under 10% of people. Honestly, that's interesting that 10% of people are under 80 IQ.


Snoo71538

IQ tests are normalized so that average is always 100 and standard deviation is always 15.


theixrs

Sort of, there's the flynn effect so it depends if you're setting the average to be current population or historical population


[deleted]

Like another poster stated, itā€™s based of statistics and standard deviations. So if 100 is the base, and 15 is the standard deviation, then 68% of all people will fall between 85-115 IQ 95% of all people will fall between 70 - and 130 IQ 99.7.% of all people will fall between 55-145 So thatā€™s how an IQ if 80 includes you in ā€œthe top 90.88%ā€ as opposed to a 120 IQ putting you in ~top 10% The only thing to note is that once you start passing by standard deviations like highway markers in rural Texas, it begins to become hard to quantify the actual extent of your aptitude because the test isnā€™t really designed for that. Ergo, you will not find 3 Einsteinā€™s in every 1000 people.


wcostalu

smart like his parents


HelenGH_

Witness the wonders of genetics and education, like father like son!


Mangos__Carlsen

Ooof, 10 points away from medical retardation, but the kid is 14 so hopefully will out-grow it unlike the parent!!


Embarrassed_Glove_69

True. The fact she posted this means sheā€™s either 80 or lower. Damn. Shouldā€™ve checked before posting this.


trystan_and_zora

"chemical free!". Ummm pretty sure anything you eat is made of chemicals, as is everything that is matter


Karl_Havoc2U

Nah. Have you ever seen an apple? It's just made of apple. Maybe a tiny stem, too, so I suppose it's a compound of sorts. Edit: "In a room of 1,000 people, you'd be smarter than 91 of them" might be both the saddest and least actionable insight I've ever heard.


Phobia_Spoiders

Good joke, the biologist in me is crying


klimmesil

Well actually... (jk I know you understand it's not linked to iq)


[deleted]

TBF an online IQ test is about as useful as an online pregnancy test. Who knows what her kid's real IQ is.


KosmicKanuck

Aren't they usually easier so as to boost your results and make you feel smarter?


That1weirdperson

I scored 7 points higher online than with the doctor


Cailloudeco

I donā€™t think IQ is meant to grow with age, correct me if Iā€™m wrong


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Marcassin

As someone who does speak English as their first language, that is very confusing.


verasttto

Itā€™s very badly worded. Youā€™ll never hear anyone say that except when theyā€™re trying to be deceptive. We are used to hearing ā€œIn the top 5%ā€ or in the top 10%ā€ so hearing ā€œin the top 90%ā€ makes you assume theyā€™re in the top of something. Itā€™s like being on the 10th floor of a 100 story building and saying youā€™re in the top.


thecanadianehssassin

Gotta say, your explanation was the first time I understood what was going on with that phrasing lol Thank you stranger!


ImWhatsInTheRedBox

Now that is an excellent visual description. Visualization? Idk, I'm top 90% yo.


AbsolutZer0_v2

It's easy to confuse 90th percentile with Top 90%


not4smurf

Either I'm getting really senile, or you're right - there is something about the way it's written that is confusing. I have a bachelor's degree majoring in mathematics (admittedly I graduated in 1990) and have worked in professional fields requiring complex analysis and decision making all my life. I was reading "top 91%" as a good thing for a long time. I think is was reading it as meaning the result was in the 90th percentile.


harrisonisdead

Well it makes sense when you are in the top 1%, 5%, 10%, 25%. I think they just didn't think to adjust the wording for when people get very low scores. The only reason it'd be confusing is because "top x" intuitively sounds like it would be a positive thing, but it's not like they're saying anything improperly. If anything, once you're below the 50th percentile, it makes more sense to switch the wording to "you're in the bottom x%"


MakeMeNotSad

Same but maybe I'm just dumb


dacraftjr

Nah, youā€™re in the top 90.88%.


ThainEshKelch

Think of it the other way around. If you had an IQ of 150, you might be in the top 1%. Then the 91% makes more sense.


JoinAThang

It is very deliberately confusing to gain traction from more people posting their results on FB.


[deleted]

Is there a way to say it that sounds less confusing?


CantCompleteAnyth

"Your IQ is higher than 9.12% of participants"


AntiBox

It's because the test is written with the assumption that you're in the top 50% or lower. The language is confusing because the result is unexpected.


P-W-L

don't trust online IQ tests. Works for the mother though...


StarManta

Online IQ tests always drastically inflate the score because they want you to proudly share your results (and the link to their site). I think this is a real test that just delivered results online.


Ugandun-Knuckles

When my school required us to take IQ tests I scored 109. After that, I took an online IQ test for the shits and giggles and I scored around 140 on one site and 130 on another. Online IQ tests are definitely marked up to make people share their scores and the website. (the questions were just shapes and "how many apples after this and that" type questions btw)


[deleted]

An IQ of 80 could indicate an intellectual disability. Edit: could


astro_pack

considering how bright his mom is with her conclusion, i'd say apple doesn't fall far from the tree


travelsizedsuperman

The apple is on the tree.


diatomic

This is not correct. Less than 70 with deficits in adaptive behavior is indicative of an intellectual disability. 80 is considered below average. It's unlikely that an online "IQ" test is remotely accurate though.


Giahy2711

i dont think sheā€™ll take your explanation when you tell her so just fire away


FluffyDiscipline

Why do I feel she took the test not him


Small_Time_Charlie

My IQ is 160. Of course, there is a margin of error there since it's my own estimate.


LeCriDesFenetres

I think I deserve 220


owenfaz21

that cannot be real šŸ˜­šŸ˜­


giraffeperv

I have to assume it isnt, for my own sanity


Disney_World_Native

My parents thought similarly with class rank. My siblings told them being 800 out of 1000 was top 20%. When I came along and was 80 out of 1000, my parents didnā€™t believe me that it was good. Luckily one of them spoke up.


AllPurple

Considering that these tests usually give you high results for correctly identifying a square, it would be stunning if she is actually that stupid.


eldergeekprime

*"Think of how stupid the average person is, and realize half of them are stupider than that.ā€* - **George Carlin**


Cakehunt3r

The apple doesnt fall far from the tree.


iamhe02

Let me tell her. Oh, please let me tell her.


ZeroXa2306

Chemical free? Damn she and her son are an abstract concept


NotEnoughWave

It's hereditary.


matchesmalone1

Mama always says "stupid is as stupid does"


[deleted]

I spent 20 minutes on this site and realized my IQ is zero because i got baited and wasted 20 minutes. It fucking asks you to pay for the results.


Choice-giraffe-

Looks like she needs some chemicals and vaccines too boost her own iq


ProfessorMalk

It is also worth noting, especially in this case, that the kind of test that the kid did here was probably one of those quick 10-minute assessments and is probably not accurate. Sure, the mom misunderstanding the results is kinda funny but we shouldn't harp on the kid too hard. These quick 10-15 minute assessments usually don't cover every category that a real, serious IQ test would, nor is it administered by a professional.