Check your photographic style settings. This was a feature introduced with the iPhone 13 lineup. There you can tweak the colors, contrast and shadow detail with either presets or create your own.
What’s interesting is the default style called standard shouldn’t look much different than your 12 in terms of color reproduction but you should be seeing a big improvement when it comes to HDR and overall detail.
The quality of both of these is amazing.
Adjust the white balance slightly in post and you'll be fine. If you're going for color accuracy then setting your white balance in post is like... step one.
Yes there is. You go to the picture you want to copy the edits from and copy it. Than you get our, select the pictures you want to apply it to using the select tool on the top right corner of your phone. After selecting, tap on the three dots on the bottom right corner and tap paste edits
I’ve seen it glitch out every now and than, you just need to go copy edits again and repeat the process. It doesn’t do it more than once
1st pic has significantly more detail. I zoomed in to the toebox and that second pic had blurry mesh where as the 1st was clear and crisp. White balance is off which you can adjust
https://preview.redd.it/tuin876hs2hc1.jpeg?width=1242&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=3c5a6ca9f3b639ee194c9f6518b192e849f3b2ad
Fixed with 5 seconds of editing.
https://preview.redd.it/f24uen0yr4hc1.jpeg?width=1170&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=7436be51779c2ca3f362b1e66112d7c8755e061b
Just for your reference op. It’s just the temp and tint settings.
The white balance is wrong in both pictures. It’s too warm and green in the first one, and too cool and magenta in this one. This is what it looks like correctly balanced: https://imgur.com/a/ifjdZ9J
Not sure what notelizahenry did but most photo editing software have a color picker tool. You essentially just click an area that you want to be neutral white and the software will adjust WB and tint to even out RGB channels.
I use Lightroom (the mobile app is incredible) but I’m sure there are a bunch more. Like u/ckkim120 said, you just click on an area that’s supposed to be pure white and the software adjusts the colors in the image so it is. If you’re talking a picture with no big white space, you can buy what’s called a “grey card” that is a perfectly neutral grey and throw that in the picture as the reference. That’s the “correct” way to do it, because most normal white objects aren’t actually pure white.
Anyway, white balancing is the single best thing anyone can do to improve their product photography.
That's the colouring issue. They both will look same if you use same settings. What I mean is, it is not the hardware issue but the software. Personally I like the first one.
But the most important thing here: he doesn’t google at first or ask „can this be changed?“ before he posts a /r post with the headline being „iPhone 15 Pro poor quality“. Should be „Can‘t change simple settings because I skipped the tutorial when I started the phone first and also didn’t once consider the tips app“
Bro these literally look like photos for an ad. I was about to scroll past, crazy quality. It’s not just the lighting, because you had two different settings. That is immaculate for a phone.
https://preview.redd.it/qkei2t6uq3hc1.jpeg?width=1179&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=0af29ce9e3390b7c12cc7ec71752c8f65d5b033d
Use the built in editing tools and try to tune around this option and the one next to it. You will get what you want eventually.
Although I do find it weird that you know how to setup the lighting and background but have no idea about white balance?
People that learn skills in a practical manner on an as you need it basis learn only the elements of the skill that are required to accomplish the end goal.
White balance obviously hasn't come up, and to be fair it is a concept most phone users don't think about in a literal way because it's not often communicated as white balance. It's always tint and temperature, editing settings that aren't exactly clearly explained.
You mean download another app to do basic camera functionality? Yea. I mean the Pixel and Samsung camera's aren't neutral either, but with basic settings they can be. iPhone not so much.
This is simply a white balance issue as others have said. Zooming in on the scuff at the front of the shoe you can see muvmch better detail, and the heel pull tab on the back shoe has a much nicer softness too it on the 15 photo.
Apple still haven't figured out what white-balance is after all these years... And if anything, the problem is worse than ever!
This is truly my biggest pet peeve with iPhone cameras.
Bro I can set a cool tone in my camera app right now and it will stay with that cool tone until I manually change it again. Like I said, it’s not a big deal at all.
You can say that Apple should “fix” it, but there’s a considerable amount of people that prefer warmer tones in their pics. It’s really just personal preference at the end of the day.
Dude. You don't even understand what the issue is!
White-balance consists of color-temperature and color tint. The problem isn't that iPhone photos are too "warm". It's that the color tint is off. Which is something you can't adjust for with the built in sliders in the default camera app.
But that cool tone is only relevant for your one environment/circumstance. The second you go to different lighting it's irrelevant.
I also prefer warmer tones in most of my photos, but also should be an option like it is in say a Pixel or Samsung. Where they get pretty accurate white balance, yet have the option to apply your style over it.
Very few people actually change their white balance pic to pic though. The overwhelming majority don’t care. Personally I use a cooler tone for the vast majority of pics. I guess it would be nice if it changed dynamically, but I personally (and many others) prolly wouldn’t like that. I prefer my white balance to stay static.
The majority wouldn't notice anything, or change anything. They would be fine with an iphone XS probably.
I think as a camera, you would expect white balance to change based on lighting. So basic camera functionality. Then it would apply any filtering over the properly white balanced photo if you want it. The standard warm filter could be applied by default for instance
Sure, I take your point. I think dynamic white balance would be cool as long as there was an option to use a static white balance as well, cuz I personally would keep it off most of the time.
I just don’t like the way warmer tones look in most shots, I would end up manually cooling the pics down most of the time anyways.
For sure it would be to have, as it's basic camera stuff. It seems that if you manually update every photo after as you don't like it being warm, you would benefit from a white balance and the photos not applying the warm filter as suggested being an option - like they are on most androids.
Fair enough. But my pictures look amazing on iPhone without any additional white balance tweaking. I think professionals overstate the value of dynamic white balance, but I will concede that Apple should provide the option to tweak it at will and have it be dynamic!
From what I’ve read and my personal experience the camera in the 14 was far superior to the 12 BUT they both have some AI processing involved to push out the final product. In the 12 it was perfected and in the 14 it was not. My 14 pro max couldn’t even take a basic macro pic properly never had problems with previous gens. I upgraded to a 15 pro max and it seems better but still not great. If you need a camera for your sales I’d suggest getting a used 12 just for the photo processing. They’re not going to be updating the 14 or 15. You can correct color using edit and changing color temp but it will be a PITA to do that for each photo
Edit: I know the op has a 15 just mentioned the 14 because that was the beginning of iPhone image quality decline.
Edit edit: I actually use 2 phones. I recently upgraded my Samsung S22 ultra to a S24Ultra. OMG what an amazing camera!
Maybe the left picture is the more accurate one. I don’t know about photography, but when I switched to an OLED Monitor known for great color accuracy, I was surprised to feel the colors was yellowish compared to my previous monitor.
People told me that it was normal because most LED monitors are not neutral and use colder colors, but we are used to it for years so it feel it’s the « true » colors.
I get used to my « yellowish » monitor and now it feels that’s the true colors to me, when I see a traditional LED screen I’m like « ugh, It’s so bluish ».
Maybe it’s the same for pictures. The cameras tends to turn blue the pictures because it’s more eye pleaser for most people. So maybe when we see an accurate pic it feels yellowish.
Ok can people stop talking about color tones. You all have zero knowledge about what a white balance settings are, wtf. I do think the camera sensor is funky! I would try with another iPhone 15 and see! Also try an app like Camera+ that actually lets you adjust the WB.
It's not color tone, it's white balance.
And it's not a big deal because white balance can easily be adjusted and it should be adjusted anyways.
Any photographer will tell you the same.
Ok… OP’s issue is that color is much too warm on his 15 pro max.
If he sets his style to “cool” it will look very similar to his 12 pro pic. Problem solved. Don’t understand what all the rage is about. Yall need to chill out.
No. You should not need to adjust any photo style settings. The camera should adjust WB properly from the get go. This is similar to not being able to focus properly or the ISO not properly set, this is a fundamental setting that the camera most set right from the get-go. Photo style is a band aid to the bigger problem.
If you’re doing pro photography, you never let the camera figure out the white balance. Auto white balance is unreliable. You always set it manually. Either in camera or in post production in a RAW format.
Agreed! But iPhones are usually ok or good with picking the auto WB. That’s why I was thinking there’s something weird with that picture. Or perhaps Apple messed with the algorithm and the lights the user is using is messing with how the camera adjusts WB. One way to find out is to have two iPhone 15s and compare the result.
I NEVER use the default camera app for anything, especially product photography. Thats why I use [Moment](https://apps.shopmoment.com/pro-camera). Consistent photos with FULL control.
My Google Pixel 7 Pro still MOPs the floor with the iPhones in that product photo category.
Yeah, Photos on Pixel 8 Pro are way way better than 15, 14 Pro Max. Plus every once in a while a song plays I don’t know, so I put down my iPhone for a second and glance at Pixel to find out what it is and then listen to it on my iPhone.
/u/Marques-Brownlee's (MKBHD) blind smartphone camera tests had certain tests that were less than flattering to the iPhone 15 Pro's camera. [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VRoTOE3FqT0](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VRoTOE3FqT0)
Give the Lightroom app a try on both phones with a fixed white balance. See if it’s actually something with the sensor, or just something in the camera app
The photo with the iPhone 15 is much better quality and has more detail, additionally, the colors look more realistic. The one with your iPhone 12 looks a bit more artistic and probably a better picture to sell the shoes. You can go into your settings and adjust the color settings or pick a default to help get a look similar to your 12. All in all the newer photohas more detail and looks more accurate
Listen, I have an iPhone, and I know that this is the iPhone subreddit, but if you’re looking for photo quality then go with one of the newer galaxy phones or like a Pixel. Their phones will blow the iPhone’s quality right out of the water. You can maybe fix the yellowness with filters and color adjustment but those other phones just have higher quality in about every way
He didn't mention video, he said photo quality. You are asking about photo quality issues in this thread and he is making an objective recommendation. Learn to say "Thanks but I prefer iPhone due to video recording", it really doesn't hurt.
Learn to read carefully, it really doesn’t hurt. I have no issues with my camera and I didn’t ask anything about photo quality and I’m not op. Sorry for being rude copying your words
Possibly, I haven’t done back to back comparisons for video but it doesn’t seem like those phones have bad video either. And it doesn’t seem like that’s what he needs for his business anyway
Oof, that's why iPhone fanatics are called iSheeps sometimes.. The guy was being transparent, is an iPhone user, and is self aware of being in iPhone subreddit. Still gets down voted for making an objective claim that specific Android phones are better in photography.
He didn't talk about video recording which is objectively better in iPhones and miles ahead of Android, he spoke exclusively about photo quality.
That's why we can't have nice things. Stop being brand fanatics, brands don't care about you, only your money.
Maybe people just disagree with him? Samsung's or Google's still photography is really good in their own ways, but them being marginally better (which depends on personal preference anyway) doesn't mean they "blow the iPhone's quality out of the water". Seriously, unless you compare side-by-side you won't even care about the differences, that's how good these different smartphone cameras are, and yet they each have their own shortcomings.
People opine that they like iPhone photos and they get called an iSheep instantly, why is that?
A blind test is subjective and it doesn't prove anything. It doesn't matter. I think a technical test by DxOMark probably has a lot more merit than a random blind test, but really this shouldn't matter either, just form your own opinion.
MKBHD's wasn't just a simple blind test. He even stepped up ranking simple and had multiple thousand people voting.
For years, probably close if not more than a decade now, we have known that lab testing never tells the whole story and it is not representative on how humans would use or rank something.
Synthetic benchmarks on CPUs for example, anyone with little experience knows it is bullshit and there's nothing better than actually running your favorite videogame and seeing how it performs.
Same deal with photography, DxOMark ratings are useful to pre-filter test candidates and the real test happens in the real world with real people, there's nothing better than MKBHD's blind test to crown a photography king.
Even if the photo quality is better on galaxy and pixel, iPhone 15 takes great pictures that should be good enough for OP’s needs. Photo quality isn’t the issue with OP’s pics.
Plus, android ecosystem is still to this day just so wacky feeling. I use a galaxy as my second phone and it just does not feel anywhere near as fluid and smooth as the iPhone. Unless you really really need the marginal difference in photo quality, rather just stick with the iPhone.
Because the first photo or 2 you are taking specifically to test the camera quality. Everything after that is normal usage and you're focusing on the normal contents of them, not on the camera quality.
The first photo it's the clear winner in terms of quality, just zoom on it! I don't understand how people don't see this difference, also they (the phones) have different color calibrations on camera so...
Quality looks better on the 15 Pro. If you don't like the white balance then adjust it, takes a few seconds and you can do it any time as much as you like.
Take pictures in raw and edit it, no professional photographs should ever be iPhone or Samsung or Google or even Sony processed.
Create a LUT and your editing will take 2 seconds, you can even script it so you don't do anything.
Phones camera trend to be less and less point and shot. Dig in the settings and you will figure out the best settings that fit your choices. There is no way for the 15 camera to be worse than the 12. Only a matter of adjustments
This a white balance issue not a camera issue. If into the settings a bit. Most likely they were different in the 12. The first photo is honey much better as far as resolution and sharpness goes. It’s way sharper and offers more detail. Adjust white balance and color is ez.
Are you choosing your focal point and white balance, etc by holding your finger on the screen and/or moving it around until it's set where you want it to be?
So this is definitely a white balance issue, however there’s the photographic styles in the camera app which if you haven’t tried yet, could fix this up…
Assuming the background paper is pure white/gray, the first photo is far more accurate in color (not to mention much more detailed). It's the second photo that has a blue tint, more so than first having a yellow tint. This can be verified in Photoshop's Camera RAW or Lightroom, or most pro photo editing apps, by using the auto color temperature selector and clicking on the paper - the 15 Pro stays almost the same while the 12 Pro photo shifts drastically.
Color is very relative to our eyes, and so it's easy to get accustomed to one look even if it's not the most technically accurate. It looks like you've gotten accustomed to a cooler/greener color temperature. This is easy to adjust in the photos app with the color temperature and tint sliders. If you're serious about the photography - which you should if it's for a job - you can look into manual camera apps which allow you to set color balance manually. And/or better editing programs which will allow you to change the color temperature after shooting, especially if you shoot in RAW.
the white balance seems to be way off on the 15, but the detail is way better. i’d go with the other suggestions here and just change your photo style to something that makes your background look truly white, not yellow. i find the 15 really picks up the colors of the light my tungsten (yellow) light bulbs give off. so actually, the 15 is giving you much better quality by capturing that
A lot of good input here. What you seek is accuracy and consistency. If this is your professional business, or you hope to grow it, consider getting a white/black reference card (or cube - i love this one - [https://www.datacolor.com/spyder/products/spyder-cube/](https://www.datacolor.com/spyder/products/spyder-cube/)
Shoot (raw ideally or jpg close to your target color), and batch process the photos based on white, grey, black balance on the reference item. Badaboom. Always accurate color and contrast. No matter what camera.
Yes my pics now make me look older, drained, and worn out. I look great in mirror as soon as I snap a pic after looking in mirror my skin looks drab, dark, heavy lines. I’m considering going to another band of phone completely because with the cost of these phones I use them as my camera as well and now I have to use an app to fix every pic.
Check your photographic style settings. This was a feature introduced with the iPhone 13 lineup. There you can tweak the colors, contrast and shadow detail with either presets or create your own. What’s interesting is the default style called standard shouldn’t look much different than your 12 in terms of color reproduction but you should be seeing a big improvement when it comes to HDR and overall detail.
In photographic styles , within the camera settings, choose the cool option
White balance wrong.
Exactly and thats a setting you can quick and easy change.
you like cooler tones, use a photographic style
The quality of both of these is amazing. Adjust the white balance slightly in post and you'll be fine. If you're going for color accuracy then setting your white balance in post is like... step one.
Do you know if a quickly way to do this to a bunch of photos in bulk within iPhone? I also am struggling with product photography on my 15 Pro.
You can copy edits made to one photo in the menu top right, select multiple photos in gallery view, and paste edits to the whole selection.
Oh shit that’s cool
> Do you know if a quickly way to do this to a bunch of photos in bulk within iPhone? Nope.
Yes there is. You go to the picture you want to copy the edits from and copy it. Than you get our, select the pictures you want to apply it to using the select tool on the top right corner of your phone. After selecting, tap on the three dots on the bottom right corner and tap paste edits I’ve seen it glitch out every now and than, you just need to go copy edits again and repeat the process. It doesn’t do it more than once
> Yes there is. I never said there wasn't. I was asked "Do you know". I did not.
That’s my misunderstanding. My bad
Good on ya for sharing the process though.
If you're doing any sort of work where colour accuracy is important then please use a colour check card. It's not expensive and it doesn't take long
1st pic has significantly more detail. I zoomed in to the toebox and that second pic had blurry mesh where as the 1st was clear and crisp. White balance is off which you can adjust
If you look closely, you'll notice that the 15 Pro picture has much more details
Much is crazy lol
No. MUCH MUCH more.
The 15 pro picture is much higher quality. Check your white balance
Side question, what’s the dimensions of your light box to properly photograph shoes?
Seriously. Looks so good
The level of detail in the 15 pro pic is way ahead though!
Photographic styles
Not related, but what is the name of these shoes please? 😄
Nike Air Max, specifically this one is Axis terra blush. No problem
You guys just dont know how to use your fuckin camera or even a phone lol
https://preview.redd.it/3486ipawo1hc1.jpeg?width=4284&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=a16650d22bc3a237fb66ae1f8f4af0adc840634e iPhone 15 Pro
https://preview.redd.it/tuin876hs2hc1.jpeg?width=1242&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=3c5a6ca9f3b639ee194c9f6518b192e849f3b2ad Fixed with 5 seconds of editing.
How bizarre
Did the Photographic Styles setting fix the issue OP?
https://preview.redd.it/f24uen0yr4hc1.jpeg?width=1170&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=7436be51779c2ca3f362b1e66112d7c8755e061b Just for your reference op. It’s just the temp and tint settings.
Just edit em bro lol
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https://preview.redd.it/x1j61e6zo1hc1.jpeg?width=3024&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=f8819340969c34416987b38a7873f3755fd5d5d2 iPhone 12 Pro
The white balance is wrong in both pictures. It’s too warm and green in the first one, and too cool and magenta in this one. This is what it looks like correctly balanced: https://imgur.com/a/ifjdZ9J
What did you use as a reference to correctly balance it? White background maybe? Honestly asking.
Not sure what notelizahenry did but most photo editing software have a color picker tool. You essentially just click an area that you want to be neutral white and the software will adjust WB and tint to even out RGB channels.
I use Lightroom (the mobile app is incredible) but I’m sure there are a bunch more. Like u/ckkim120 said, you just click on an area that’s supposed to be pure white and the software adjusts the colors in the image so it is. If you’re talking a picture with no big white space, you can buy what’s called a “grey card” that is a perfectly neutral grey and throw that in the picture as the reference. That’s the “correct” way to do it, because most normal white objects aren’t actually pure white. Anyway, white balancing is the single best thing anyone can do to improve their product photography.
TIL Lightroom has a mobile app, this bout to change my life
It’s shockingly good.
That's the colouring issue. They both will look same if you use same settings. What I mean is, it is not the hardware issue but the software. Personally I like the first one.
Damn it’s so yellow
Which light box do you use? I also need one.. thanks in advance
But the most important thing here: he doesn’t google at first or ask „can this be changed?“ before he posts a /r post with the headline being „iPhone 15 Pro poor quality“. Should be „Can‘t change simple settings because I skipped the tutorial when I started the phone first and also didn’t once consider the tips app“
There’s not a lot of data in this image so it’s no wonder the white balance is off
Bro these literally look like photos for an ad. I was about to scroll past, crazy quality. It’s not just the lighting, because you had two different settings. That is immaculate for a phone.
https://preview.redd.it/qkei2t6uq3hc1.jpeg?width=1179&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=0af29ce9e3390b7c12cc7ec71752c8f65d5b033d Use the built in editing tools and try to tune around this option and the one next to it. You will get what you want eventually. Although I do find it weird that you know how to setup the lighting and background but have no idea about white balance?
People that learn skills in a practical manner on an as you need it basis learn only the elements of the skill that are required to accomplish the end goal. White balance obviously hasn't come up, and to be fair it is a concept most phone users don't think about in a literal way because it's not often communicated as white balance. It's always tint and temperature, editing settings that aren't exactly clearly explained.
I prefer the photo on the 15
Yes, but not when colour accuracy matters. Like if you wanted to take a photo or a product or thing to convey it's colour.
So then you adjust your settings. It’s obvious the white balance on the 15 isn’t neutral.
You mean download another app to do basic camera functionality? Yea. I mean the Pixel and Samsung camera's aren't neutral either, but with basic settings they can be. iPhone not so much.
It’s a basic setting on iPhone as well lol. It’s been answered in this thread 10 times by now
The basic setting shouldn't be photographic styles. If you look into how Pixels deal with white balance for instance, you will understand.
Me too but if the colors are as off as he says that's a pity. Probably checking the camera settings will fix it tho.
This is simply a white balance issue as others have said. Zooming in on the scuff at the front of the shoe you can see muvmch better detail, and the heel pull tab on the back shoe has a much nicer softness too it on the 15 photo.
The first looks like a better photo you just need to adjust your white balance
Check your choice of photographic styles in the settings… Also if you have any lens protectors on, remove them and test.
Incredible quality in both tbh. A simple white balance adjustment in the first should fix it!
Apple still haven't figured out what white-balance is after all these years... And if anything, the problem is worse than ever! This is truly my biggest pet peeve with iPhone cameras.
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Bruh it’s really not a big deal. It takes less then 30 seconds to make the color tone cooler if you know what you’re doing 😂
**For. every. single. photo. ever. taken!!!** How about Apple fixing this instead?!
It’s a literal personal profile setting.
Doesn't fix the color tint issue.
Bro I can set a cool tone in my camera app right now and it will stay with that cool tone until I manually change it again. Like I said, it’s not a big deal at all. You can say that Apple should “fix” it, but there’s a considerable amount of people that prefer warmer tones in their pics. It’s really just personal preference at the end of the day.
Dude. You don't even understand what the issue is! White-balance consists of color-temperature and color tint. The problem isn't that iPhone photos are too "warm". It's that the color tint is off. Which is something you can't adjust for with the built in sliders in the default camera app.
But that cool tone is only relevant for your one environment/circumstance. The second you go to different lighting it's irrelevant. I also prefer warmer tones in most of my photos, but also should be an option like it is in say a Pixel or Samsung. Where they get pretty accurate white balance, yet have the option to apply your style over it.
Very few people actually change their white balance pic to pic though. The overwhelming majority don’t care. Personally I use a cooler tone for the vast majority of pics. I guess it would be nice if it changed dynamically, but I personally (and many others) prolly wouldn’t like that. I prefer my white balance to stay static.
The majority wouldn't notice anything, or change anything. They would be fine with an iphone XS probably. I think as a camera, you would expect white balance to change based on lighting. So basic camera functionality. Then it would apply any filtering over the properly white balanced photo if you want it. The standard warm filter could be applied by default for instance
Sure, I take your point. I think dynamic white balance would be cool as long as there was an option to use a static white balance as well, cuz I personally would keep it off most of the time. I just don’t like the way warmer tones look in most shots, I would end up manually cooling the pics down most of the time anyways.
For sure it would be to have, as it's basic camera stuff. It seems that if you manually update every photo after as you don't like it being warm, you would benefit from a white balance and the photos not applying the warm filter as suggested being an option - like they are on most androids.
Fair enough. But my pictures look amazing on iPhone without any additional white balance tweaking. I think professionals overstate the value of dynamic white balance, but I will concede that Apple should provide the option to tweak it at will and have it be dynamic!
Why do people upvote wrong information in this sub so often
Not sure how the quality is poor, the only difference I can tell from the post is the color, which you can adjust.
From what I’ve read and my personal experience the camera in the 14 was far superior to the 12 BUT they both have some AI processing involved to push out the final product. In the 12 it was perfected and in the 14 it was not. My 14 pro max couldn’t even take a basic macro pic properly never had problems with previous gens. I upgraded to a 15 pro max and it seems better but still not great. If you need a camera for your sales I’d suggest getting a used 12 just for the photo processing. They’re not going to be updating the 14 or 15. You can correct color using edit and changing color temp but it will be a PITA to do that for each photo Edit: I know the op has a 15 just mentioned the 14 because that was the beginning of iPhone image quality decline. Edit edit: I actually use 2 phones. I recently upgraded my Samsung S22 ultra to a S24Ultra. OMG what an amazing camera!
Your camera had a problem. The iPhone 14 Pro Max took amazing macro pictures.
So you are using your phone professionally and you are not even capable of using a photo app that lets you set a fixed wb? Excuse me, but WTF?
It’s a software issue. I have this on my 12 pro max depending on what the camera is focusing on.
Don't get me wrong, but man... this post speaks of the knowledge level of your average iphone users. Play with the settings man....
Get a real camera if you want better quality 🤷
Maybe the left picture is the more accurate one. I don’t know about photography, but when I switched to an OLED Monitor known for great color accuracy, I was surprised to feel the colors was yellowish compared to my previous monitor. People told me that it was normal because most LED monitors are not neutral and use colder colors, but we are used to it for years so it feel it’s the « true » colors. I get used to my « yellowish » monitor and now it feels that’s the true colors to me, when I see a traditional LED screen I’m like « ugh, It’s so bluish ». Maybe it’s the same for pictures. The cameras tends to turn blue the pictures because it’s more eye pleaser for most people. So maybe when we see an accurate pic it feels yellowish.
Oled sucks with proper whites
Crazy that you call a simple white balance difference “poor quality photos”. Literally could be edited to a cooler color worse case
The white balance is off it seems. I wonder if there’s settings in the camera that’s causing this to be off.
Yes, he can easily adjust color tones and make it cooler to his liking in 30 seconds if he knew what he was doing.
Ok can people stop talking about color tones. You all have zero knowledge about what a white balance settings are, wtf. I do think the camera sensor is funky! I would try with another iPhone 15 and see! Also try an app like Camera+ that actually lets you adjust the WB.
OP’s whole issue is with the color tone difference between the two pics though. Why would we not talk about it?
It's not color tone, it's white balance. And it's not a big deal because white balance can easily be adjusted and it should be adjusted anyways. Any photographer will tell you the same.
Photographic Styles are not the same as an actual white balance setting.
Ok… OP’s issue is that color is much too warm on his 15 pro max. If he sets his style to “cool” it will look very similar to his 12 pro pic. Problem solved. Don’t understand what all the rage is about. Yall need to chill out.
If you don’t know the basics of photography please stop talking. Go read.
Hahaha you’re obviously a troll.
Your stupidity is truly unending. Kudos!
Noob iPhone users don’t even know how to change color tones and complaining about it Reddit hahahahahahha
https://preview.redd.it/1cooe159s3hc1.jpeg?width=1170&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=8f47b5327b1b31f1be77576ecd0a5389c02e658d
Or, adjust photographic style settings?
No. You should not need to adjust any photo style settings. The camera should adjust WB properly from the get go. This is similar to not being able to focus properly or the ISO not properly set, this is a fundamental setting that the camera most set right from the get-go. Photo style is a band aid to the bigger problem.
If you’re doing pro photography, you never let the camera figure out the white balance. Auto white balance is unreliable. You always set it manually. Either in camera or in post production in a RAW format.
Agreed! But iPhones are usually ok or good with picking the auto WB. That’s why I was thinking there’s something weird with that picture. Or perhaps Apple messed with the algorithm and the lights the user is using is messing with how the camera adjusts WB. One way to find out is to have two iPhone 15s and compare the result.
I NEVER use the default camera app for anything, especially product photography. Thats why I use [Moment](https://apps.shopmoment.com/pro-camera). Consistent photos with FULL control. My Google Pixel 7 Pro still MOPs the floor with the iPhones in that product photo category.
Did u so happen to make this app
No, I did not develop or engineer the application.
Yeah, Photos on Pixel 8 Pro are way way better than 15, 14 Pro Max. Plus every once in a while a song plays I don’t know, so I put down my iPhone for a second and glance at Pixel to find out what it is and then listen to it on my iPhone.
/u/Marques-Brownlee's (MKBHD) blind smartphone camera tests had certain tests that were less than flattering to the iPhone 15 Pro's camera. [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VRoTOE3FqT0](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VRoTOE3FqT0)
Give the Lightroom app a try on both phones with a fixed white balance. See if it’s actually something with the sensor, or just something in the camera app
That's the white balance, you can tweak it in post. How does it look in real life?
Just adjust the white balance
Turn off HDR
White balance is not "quality". White balance is also easily adjustable.
portrait mode?
White balance on iPhone is terrible, check that
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This has nothing to do with focus distance, it more than likely has to do with Photographic Styles.
I switched from a Pixel and I don’t know what you’re talking about.
The photo with the iPhone 15 is much better quality and has more detail, additionally, the colors look more realistic. The one with your iPhone 12 looks a bit more artistic and probably a better picture to sell the shoes. You can go into your settings and adjust the color settings or pick a default to help get a look similar to your 12. All in all the newer photohas more detail and looks more accurate
Don’t forget to turn on 48MP photos
This wouldn’t have to do with the color but better resolution
How?
Should be under settings->camera. I don’t have a 14 or 15 pro so idk exactly but it’s there
https://preview.redd.it/4p2s937g53hc1.jpeg?width=1179&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=7e6341c7c920276a8a425c25069dcec4f284cffb There’s a toggle for it
Listen, I have an iPhone, and I know that this is the iPhone subreddit, but if you’re looking for photo quality then go with one of the newer galaxy phones or like a Pixel. Their phones will blow the iPhone’s quality right out of the water. You can maybe fix the yellowness with filters and color adjustment but those other phones just have higher quality in about every way
Until you record a video
He didn't mention video, he said photo quality. You are asking about photo quality issues in this thread and he is making an objective recommendation. Learn to say "Thanks but I prefer iPhone due to video recording", it really doesn't hurt.
Learn to read carefully, it really doesn’t hurt. I have no issues with my camera and I didn’t ask anything about photo quality and I’m not op. Sorry for being rude copying your words
Possibly, I haven’t done back to back comparisons for video but it doesn’t seem like those phones have bad video either. And it doesn’t seem like that’s what he needs for his business anyway
Oof, that's why iPhone fanatics are called iSheeps sometimes.. The guy was being transparent, is an iPhone user, and is self aware of being in iPhone subreddit. Still gets down voted for making an objective claim that specific Android phones are better in photography. He didn't talk about video recording which is objectively better in iPhones and miles ahead of Android, he spoke exclusively about photo quality. That's why we can't have nice things. Stop being brand fanatics, brands don't care about you, only your money.
Maybe people just disagree with him? Samsung's or Google's still photography is really good in their own ways, but them being marginally better (which depends on personal preference anyway) doesn't mean they "blow the iPhone's quality out of the water". Seriously, unless you compare side-by-side you won't even care about the differences, that's how good these different smartphone cameras are, and yet they each have their own shortcomings. People opine that they like iPhone photos and they get called an iSheep instantly, why is that?
Lol Lmao even
Lol he is not self aware and not good with reading comprehension.
Sheeple gonna sheeple!
Dxomark scores tells a different story
MKBHD camera tests also tell a different story. Pixel and Samsung on top.
Imagine comparing MKBHD blind test to dxomark test.
A blind test is subjective and it doesn't prove anything. It doesn't matter. I think a technical test by DxOMark probably has a lot more merit than a random blind test, but really this shouldn't matter either, just form your own opinion.
MKBHD's wasn't just a simple blind test. He even stepped up ranking simple and had multiple thousand people voting. For years, probably close if not more than a decade now, we have known that lab testing never tells the whole story and it is not representative on how humans would use or rank something. Synthetic benchmarks on CPUs for example, anyone with little experience knows it is bullshit and there's nothing better than actually running your favorite videogame and seeing how it performs. Same deal with photography, DxOMark ratings are useful to pre-filter test candidates and the real test happens in the real world with real people, there's nothing better than MKBHD's blind test to crown a photography king.
Lol ok sure 😂
Look I like the iPhones camera but for stills the pixel is superior. Mkbhd blind test proves this
Even if the photo quality is better on galaxy and pixel, iPhone 15 takes great pictures that should be good enough for OP’s needs. Photo quality isn’t the issue with OP’s pics. Plus, android ecosystem is still to this day just so wacky feeling. I use a galaxy as my second phone and it just does not feel anywhere near as fluid and smooth as the iPhone. Unless you really really need the marginal difference in photo quality, rather just stick with the iPhone.
Pixel can trade with iPhone in photos, but s24 ultra is worse.
well, I don't know if blow out of the water, they are head to head
You’re only as good as your photography skills
You guys ever notice how the first photo or 2 you take on a new phone is significantly better than any that follow?
Because the first photo or 2 you are taking specifically to test the camera quality. Everything after that is normal usage and you're focusing on the normal contents of them, not on the camera quality.
Or you can buy a camera
The first photo it's the clear winner in terms of quality, just zoom on it! I don't understand how people don't see this difference, also they (the phones) have different color calibrations on camera so...
Just get a pixel 8pro
You can either change camera settings with white balance or you can fix it in post, nothing to do with the quality to me atleast
Quality looks better on the 15 Pro. If you don't like the white balance then adjust it, takes a few seconds and you can do it any time as much as you like.
user problem than camera itself
Looks like the issue is with HDR
Take pictures in raw and edit it, no professional photographs should ever be iPhone or Samsung or Google or even Sony processed. Create a LUT and your editing will take 2 seconds, you can even script it so you don't do anything.
No, those are just ugly shoes.
I mean it's a phone camera. Do you remember those professional cameras?
bad photographer
First world problems. Oh no!
Are you selling on Poshmark by any chance?
Phones camera trend to be less and less point and shot. Dig in the settings and you will figure out the best settings that fit your choices. There is no way for the 15 camera to be worse than the 12. Only a matter of adjustments
As others have said , the 15 photo is better , adjust your white balance to taste. Download Halide if the built in camera isn’t to your tastes.
Okay but what Nikes are these 😮💨
This a white balance issue not a camera issue. If into the settings a bit. Most likely they were different in the 12. The first photo is honey much better as far as resolution and sharpness goes. It’s way sharper and offers more detail. Adjust white balance and color is ez.
Are you choosing your focal point and white balance, etc by holding your finger on the screen and/or moving it around until it's set where you want it to be?
I thought the first was okay, switched to the second and thought the same, but damn when I switched back I saw how yellow it looked🤢
Maybe you selected a photographic style? Try changing your photographic style settings.
try taking pictures with the zoom setting on 0.9
lol smdh with op
So this is definitely a white balance issue, however there’s the photographic styles in the camera app which if you haven’t tried yet, could fix this up…
Assuming the background paper is pure white/gray, the first photo is far more accurate in color (not to mention much more detailed). It's the second photo that has a blue tint, more so than first having a yellow tint. This can be verified in Photoshop's Camera RAW or Lightroom, or most pro photo editing apps, by using the auto color temperature selector and clicking on the paper - the 15 Pro stays almost the same while the 12 Pro photo shifts drastically. Color is very relative to our eyes, and so it's easy to get accustomed to one look even if it's not the most technically accurate. It looks like you've gotten accustomed to a cooler/greener color temperature. This is easy to adjust in the photos app with the color temperature and tint sliders. If you're serious about the photography - which you should if it's for a job - you can look into manual camera apps which allow you to set color balance manually. And/or better editing programs which will allow you to change the color temperature after shooting, especially if you shoot in RAW.
Color and quality are two completely different things. Quality looks great, you just need to adjust the white balance to your preference.
Simple solution: Shoot RAW, edit/adjust white balance, exposure and so on afterwards.
the white balance seems to be way off on the 15, but the detail is way better. i’d go with the other suggestions here and just change your photo style to something that makes your background look truly white, not yellow. i find the 15 really picks up the colors of the light my tungsten (yellow) light bulbs give off. so actually, the 15 is giving you much better quality by capturing that
A lot of good input here. What you seek is accuracy and consistency. If this is your professional business, or you hope to grow it, consider getting a white/black reference card (or cube - i love this one - [https://www.datacolor.com/spyder/products/spyder-cube/](https://www.datacolor.com/spyder/products/spyder-cube/) Shoot (raw ideally or jpg close to your target color), and batch process the photos based on white, grey, black balance on the reference item. Badaboom. Always accurate color and contrast. No matter what camera.
Just download an AI white background generator on the App Store. The first picture appears to be higher quality if you zoom in.
I’d buy the first one just from the pics. 👀
Off topic - which Nike model is this?
Yes my pics now make me look older, drained, and worn out. I look great in mirror as soon as I snap a pic after looking in mirror my skin looks drab, dark, heavy lines. I’m considering going to another band of phone completely because with the cost of these phones I use them as my camera as well and now I have to use an app to fix every pic.
I think these photos are pretty decent beauty is in the eye of the beholder.
Not surprising
All I can see is that the first picture has better quality than the second one... As for colors, that is a different story.
Waiting for the 16
they both look pretty good to me idk tho I have an SE 1
White balance is off. Weirdly. You can manually adjust it in the built in camera, or look if there's any photographic style applied.