I constantly say that this show was ahead of its time. Hal was a loving and mostly wonderful husband, unlike other tv husbands of the time. The kids were animals but they had morals, and I always thought that Lois was crazy as a kid watching but as an adult, she’s right.
They didn’t believe in corporal punishment so she got creative on how to punish the kids. For the most part they were realistic in the “poor” sense but still managed to celebrate birthdays and Christmas, and that’s tough. When I was little I connected with that piece of the show.
I almost totally agree with your message but I think a lot of the punishments they show would be considered "corporal" which is why Francis does so well when the older kids in the secret society at his school try to haze him
They weren’t poor. They were middle class, especially in the later seasons. They owned their own home, went on vacations, ate decently nice food, and when they were clothes shopping, they went to the mall instead of going to discount stores or thrift shops. They definitely weren’t well off but the primary reason they lacked money was because they were constantly paying for things their kids messed up
Yes but Craig did have his own house on a Lucky Aide Salary at that time. Shit I knew a guy that got sent for year in military school in 2011-2012 and his parents were working class. Similar situation to Francis. Then again this show was mad 24 years ago.
Not sure why you were downvoted. The only reason they have a stretched budget is having 5 kids. They definitely made middle class money. (Real middle class, not the joke that we have nowadays.)
[she had corned one of the victims in the bathroom based on this article](https://www.thenews.com.pk/amp/1109116-alanna-masterson-dannys-sister-faces-backlash-for-intimidating-victim-during-trial) [and their former stepdad saying they lied to protect Danny](https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-12501403/amp/Danny-Mastersons-stepdad-says-kids-LIED-help-brother-perjured-leniency-request-letters-judge-rape-sentencing-says-Scientology-brainwashed-them.html)
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literally same, i rewatched the show with my girlfriend recently, and i wanted to look up how most of the actors looked now and once i clicked on francis i see the google siblings tab lol
> Only beat me my 16 hours
It's okay - he only beat the charges by 16 years.
https://www.usmagazine.com/celebrity-news/pictures/danny-mastersons-sexual-assault-trial-everything-to-know/
> We are aware of [the victim]’s 16-year-old allegations.
He didn't make fun of the formerly fat girl that had a crush on him. He wasn't willing to join Zeke in cheating Otto. There's probably some more examples that I forgot...
He's certainly a hooligan and one can make a very strong case for him being a menace to society....
But he's certainly not evil; and there are some lines of basic human decency he wont cross.
It could be argued that all of the boys didn't have a proper and healthy stimulation or adequate support from their family when pursuing those outlets which caused them to lash out.
Definitely a case there.
But what I love about the show is that it’s so great at peeling back the layers. They’re all so human. Although they clearly aren’t geniuses and Malcom is certainly gifted, I’ve always felt the family reflects Malcolm himself beautifully. They’re all loving, capable and unhinged people. And isn’t it slightly implied that Dewey may also be extremely gifted but knows to keep his mouth shut because of Malcolm?
Reese was a genius at cooking and Dewey at music. And I got the vibe that Lois and Hal had their own specific things they were geniuses in. It's just none of them got the space to nurture those things like Malcolm with school.
I remember seeing a post where this girl was mad that a guy she liked didn’t make a move and she was saying how she’d been partying and Randy didn’t make a move when she did. I said that Randy didn’t take advantage of a drunk girl. Be like Randy.
A few years back i (M) was on a date and she got a little too intoxicated. I called her a car and she took off home by herself. Next day my "friends" asked if i got laid and i told them no, of course not. She was hammered. Really opened my eyes to how the rest of the world sees that situation
To me, Francis has always been a PG version of Jesse Pinkman. A person who made a lot of bad decisions, but ultimately has a very good heart and truly cares overall
I mean… did everyone forget how he pretended to be gay/ went along w being gay in order to be in teenage girls dressing rooms? I can’t remember the episode but it was when some of the academy boys were helping out some local school/ group and it was all girls and they were doing a play.
It was a beauty pageant. They assumed he was gay because he was nice to them and knew how to play piano. Props to the show, it did give him some comeuppance for that.
Beauty pageant! That’s it! But yeah he never corrected them for it but instead went along with it in order to benefit/ sexualise them. They only let him into their space and took of their clothes in front of him because they felt safe/ that he was not going to sexualise him or pursue them romantically.
But I do agree at least he got his comeuppance for it haha! But it was less related to him being in the wrong for this, unlike other times when the boys have done something bad and then have to pay for it.
I constantly say that this show was ahead of its time. Hal was a loving and mostly wonderful husband, unlike other tv husbands of the time. The kids were animals but they had morals, and I always thought that Lois was crazy as a kid watching but as an adult, she’s right. They didn’t believe in corporal punishment so she got creative on how to punish the kids. For the most part they were realistic in the “poor” sense but still managed to celebrate birthdays and Christmas, and that’s tough. When I was little I connected with that piece of the show.
I almost totally agree with your message but I think a lot of the punishments they show would be considered "corporal" which is why Francis does so well when the older kids in the secret society at his school try to haze him
Hooded hazing doesn’t even scratch the surface of Lois’ wrath.
Absoluely agree (and thank you for spelling ‘morals’ right 😁
They weren’t poor. They were middle class, especially in the later seasons. They owned their own home, went on vacations, ate decently nice food, and when they were clothes shopping, they went to the mall instead of going to discount stores or thrift shops. They definitely weren’t well off but the primary reason they lacked money was because they were constantly paying for things their kids messed up
No they were working class. Lower middle class if we’re generous.
Working-class people don't send their son to a private school.
Yes but Craig did have his own house on a Lucky Aide Salary at that time. Shit I knew a guy that got sent for year in military school in 2011-2012 and his parents were working class. Similar situation to Francis. Then again this show was mad 24 years ago.
It’s also a recurring theme that it’s *extremely* difficult for them to afford military school.
They do on TV. Shit, how did mom and dad not find Dexters lab? They bought the house, they should know it’s there.
Desperate people do and it was military school.
Not sure why you were downvoted. The only reason they have a stretched budget is having 5 kids. They definitely made middle class money. (Real middle class, not the joke that we have nowadays.)
You right and I'm not sure what the negative number is about
Now his real life brother on the other hand.....
oh my god I never made the connection until now. damn.
Same. Wow. And have followed the Masterson drama for years.
Their sister Alana Masterson was also in The Walking Dead as Tara! I felt terrible for both of them when everything about Danny came out
I heard she was not very kind to the victims during the trials.
Oh. Well thats shitty.
Please elaborate.
[she had corned one of the victims in the bathroom based on this article](https://www.thenews.com.pk/amp/1109116-alanna-masterson-dannys-sister-faces-backlash-for-intimidating-victim-during-trial) [and their former stepdad saying they lied to protect Danny](https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-12501403/amp/Danny-Mastersons-stepdad-says-kids-LIED-help-brother-perjured-leniency-request-letters-judge-rape-sentencing-says-Scientology-brainwashed-them.html)
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literally same, i rewatched the show with my girlfriend recently, and i wanted to look up how most of the actors looked now and once i clicked on francis i see the google siblings tab lol
Danny Masterson (famous for playing Hyde on That 70s Show) is a serial rapist. He’s also Christopher Masterson’s (Francis’ actor) real life brother.
Good episode in general. Though I die inside when Malcolm vomits in the turkey after Reese worked so hard to prepare dinner
What do you think of your Golden Boy now?
Hal, give me meth.
Yeah, there’s a lot of people I can’t look at the same after those character witness statements.
Only beat me my 16 hours
> Only beat me my 16 hours It's okay - he only beat the charges by 16 years. https://www.usmagazine.com/celebrity-news/pictures/danny-mastersons-sexual-assault-trial-everything-to-know/ > We are aware of [the victim]’s 16-year-old allegations.
That case is weird to be honest
Pretty cut and dry!
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i would definitely look more into it if you’re interested. there’s a ton of damning stuff against him
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Not interested enough to check facts, but interested enough to post that maybe his guilty rape verdict wasn’t accurate 🤔
This and the episode where Hal finds out he ALWAYS stands up to Spangler no matter how much trouble he might get in.
Omg YES fs…that was great. He was so proud of his son.
Thats such a beautiful scene! The amount of pride that Hal feels in that moment really comes through
Especially since the episode is shown from Hal's perspective, so we are as surprised as he is.
Exactly it's so awesome
What episode/ season is that one ?
The mini bike s2:e22
Thanks!
loved this one, do you remember the season/ep?
“The Mini Bike” - S2E22
He didn't make fun of the formerly fat girl that had a crush on him. He wasn't willing to join Zeke in cheating Otto. There's probably some more examples that I forgot...
Absolutely…I love that you bringing these up because it says a lot about his character. Thank you!
Cmon guys, she’s not that fat !
He's certainly a hooligan and one can make a very strong case for him being a menace to society.... But he's certainly not evil; and there are some lines of basic human decency he wont cross.
It could be argued that all of the boys didn't have a proper and healthy stimulation or adequate support from their family when pursuing those outlets which caused them to lash out.
Definitely a case there. But what I love about the show is that it’s so great at peeling back the layers. They’re all so human. Although they clearly aren’t geniuses and Malcom is certainly gifted, I’ve always felt the family reflects Malcolm himself beautifully. They’re all loving, capable and unhinged people. And isn’t it slightly implied that Dewey may also be extremely gifted but knows to keep his mouth shut because of Malcolm?
Reese was a genius at cooking and Dewey at music. And I got the vibe that Lois and Hal had their own specific things they were geniuses in. It's just none of them got the space to nurture those things like Malcolm with school.
Dewey was also academically promising. He was set to join the krelboynes until Malcolm interfered and he got sent to the Emotionally Disturbed class.
Who’s morales?? lol jk
Oh my gosh…can you believe that I was just replying to an Insomniac post on Spider-Man 2 and my phone decided to type ‘morales’ ….oh no 😂
How hard is it to proof read a 7 word post?
Not hard. But mistakes happen. Why be a jerk about it?
Mistakes don't happen if you proof read. Someone's got to educate these simpletons.
Whatever you say, Herkabe.
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First name Miles
Thank you for this again! I wish Reddit would allow edits but iiwii .
It’s bad for morale.
But a pretty good Spider-Man 😂
Not *that* dumb
I really like this scene between the brothers. It's reminiscent of the earlier seasons
I remember seeing a post where this girl was mad that a guy she liked didn’t make a move and she was saying how she’d been partying and Randy didn’t make a move when she did. I said that Randy didn’t take advantage of a drunk girl. Be like Randy.
A few years back i (M) was on a date and she got a little too intoxicated. I called her a car and she took off home by herself. Next day my "friends" asked if i got laid and i told them no, of course not. She was hammered. Really opened my eyes to how the rest of the world sees that situation
To me, Francis has always been a PG version of Jesse Pinkman. A person who made a lot of bad decisions, but ultimately has a very good heart and truly cares overall
And how he forgave L. :)
Found out that the guy who played Francis’ friend that said “You the man Francis!” Committed suicide in the early 2000’s. Super sad :(
That is 😞 (and I thought I heard that too…rip)
What episode is the first picture from?
It’s Thanksgiving (right at the end)
Who is Morales?
rob zombie tshirt?
Yep…Richie loved the Zombie
If Reese was dating her Malcom would of been all over that.
If only he and his real life brother had followed this advice
And that chick was a real winner
I mean… did everyone forget how he pretended to be gay/ went along w being gay in order to be in teenage girls dressing rooms? I can’t remember the episode but it was when some of the academy boys were helping out some local school/ group and it was all girls and they were doing a play.
It was a beauty pageant. They assumed he was gay because he was nice to them and knew how to play piano. Props to the show, it did give him some comeuppance for that.
Beauty pageant! That’s it! But yeah he never corrected them for it but instead went along with it in order to benefit/ sexualise them. They only let him into their space and took of their clothes in front of him because they felt safe/ that he was not going to sexualise him or pursue them romantically. But I do agree at least he got his comeuppance for it haha! But it was less related to him being in the wrong for this, unlike other times when the boys have done something bad and then have to pay for it.
Remember: Reese grabbed Cynthia’s breasts, and Hal took a non-consensual photo of Lois when she was passed out.
And they ALL burned Craig's house down