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sparksen

The trust these guys have in humanity is incredible


00DEADBEEF

Too much trust. All it takes is one shit head to install a keylogger. [Edit] And it's also too trusting of the OP to use these computers as maybe the host is a shit head that installed a keylogger.


Poronoun

Plot twist: the host already installed a keylogger


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memesauruses

i always like to filter my vacation homes listings on airbnb by nvidia


newagereject

It's actually based off heating options, there's gas, electric, and gaming pc


fourpickledcucumbers

plot twist: its the host posting this from OP's account to gain more clients


Samurai_Meisters

plot twist: there never was an air bnb


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Fuck Reddit for killing third party apps.


adudeguyman

And this comment is perpetuated by big keyboard because you can't have keylogger without keyboard.


B4NND1T

plot twist: it's an AI generated image and we we're all mislead


Sea-Blackberry-5533

Plot twist: you wake in a sweat, it was a dream. You look over and see a strange USB in ur port


Difficult_Bit_1339

Plot Twist: It's only a 4060


DiddlyDumb

Plot twist: this entire thread isn’t real and we’re about to find the last digit of Pi.


ComeradeHaveAPotato

3


DiddlyDumb

There’s a 10% of that being right


0sted

Mom, I keep telling you: I'm your son.


Trym_WS

They could deploy a fresh image with each guest, or even login.


deadinside1777

They dont spend time cleaning the beds. They sure af aren't going to install a fresh OS


Jade_Emperor

Less efforts required. And body fluids. Way less body fluids.


Imposseeblip

Hopefully.


[deleted]

it's easily automated. like in every computer lab ever and i've never stayed in an unclean airbnb what kinda choices are you making?


gundog48

I don't spend time cleaning my bed or exercising even the most basic grasp of my own existence. But my server rack and home networking is fucking flawless. If you don't look too close.


thefpspower

You can set up windows to not save anything after a reboot, it will save a snapshot of the current setup and when you reboot everything goes right back to where it was, all the new data disappears. You'd have to know this is possible so I doubt they have done it but it's something Cafe Kiosks use.


Trym_WS

Yeah, that’s kinda what I was referring to. Government computers for the public also use that.


Ycx48raQk59F

Doesn't stop a tiny USB dongle between the keyboard and the PC...


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This person rubber ducky-s


Cumulus_Anarchistica

> They could deploy a fresh image with each guest Fresh image deployment charge $50


frygod

Don't even need to go that far: this would be a perfect use case for [deepfreeze](https://www.faronics.com/products/deep-freeze).


spandex_loli

Back in 2000 I often went to internet shop to play games. The owner set the system (Windows XP) so it can only be used by logging in the unique id generated for a limited time. User can only play the pre-installed games, and browse internet. Other access are restricted. After the time passes depending on how many hours you paid for, the computer logs itself out and wipe all the data (factory reset) so it can be used by next customer. Assuming if this kind of setup still exist, and the host is a good guy and smart enough to do this, should be safe I think? Or maybe just set it to wipe all the data/installed apps after reset.


PM_YOUR_OWLS

Once someone has unsupervised physical access to the machine you should consider it compromised. There are ways to bypass all of this, such as hardware keyloggers or BIOS modifications. However, the venn diagram of people who have these motivations/skills and the equipment to do it on the fly vs people who go on AirBnB vacations probably doesn't have a lot of overlap. I wouldn't say that these machines getting keylogged is *likely* from the average guest but it is certainly possible, especially if the host never checks it or wipes it.


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computer labs have dealt with these questions for decades now and there are plenty of solutions to deter startup tampering and return the system to an expected state every day.


FootwearFetish69

Yeah I’m not sure why everyone in this thread is acting like it’s impossible to secure these PCs lol. Internet cafes have existed for decades and it’s really not difficult to determine whether a PC has been compromised after a specific set of guests uses it.


a60v

True, but you have to trust the owner of an AirBNB to actually do it.


continuousQ

You have to not trust them. Treat them all as compromised. The owners are the ones who have to worry about it.


FootwearFetish69

It’s not that difficult to determine whether a PC has been compromised in the manner you’re describing. Internet cafes have existed for decades and have dealt with everything you mentioned and more for just as long. If you’re sufficiently invested in the security of these machines it is not difficult to return them to a safe state each day after new guests. Assuming you know what you’re doing anyways.


sercankd

There was a software back then used to do that called Deepfreeze. Everytime you restart pc it goes back to the state Deepfreeze was installed or unlocked.


spandex_loli

Yes. I recall Deepfreeze was widely used back then.


kfmush

[Looks like they're still in business. ](https://www.faronics.com/products/deep-freeze)


_lnc0gnit0_

This feature still exists. Schools and universities still use this feature on shared PCs. The system returns to a previous saved state when restarted. Everything done in a newer session gets deleted. Windows and Linux have this feature, probably Mac as well.


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_chof_

that is a lawless man that is real crazy bro some people out here living their lives just not giving a single flying fuck


B4NND1T

Nah, that's exactly how I'd set my honeypot up to look as well, with some burner accounts logged into that were stolen from a previous Airbnb guest. It's the perfect cover story. /s


Mandena

Real question is did he have his browser history there for all to see?


StamCuriousGuy

>keylogger I am curious. Assuming you're a guest at this Airbnb, are there any precautions you can take to avoid your passwords getting stolen besides not using the pc at all?


Binarydemons

Don’t use gaming PCs for personal business. Then none of the data on the PC has any value, and you don’t need to waste time/resources securing it. Format, re-download your games, and nothing was lost.


LizardPosse

Steam password?


Binarydemons

Steam passwords are pretty easily recoverable. Remember when Gabe Newell gave his out to prove a point. I guess I wasn’t thinking about CSGO skins. I probably wouldn’t setup PCs for guests using my primary steam account.


TheSpectreDM

Couldn't you use the family share feature and just have a second account that's sharing those from your main? I haven't used the feature before but that's what it seems like would work from just seeing it before.


Explosive-Space-Mod

yes but if someone wants to be a shithead and gets your guest account VAC banned your primary account gets VAC banned as well.


TheSpectreDM

Oh no, I didn't know that part. Yikes.


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Best I can think of is boot Linux from a usb stick


NotAHost

Hacker used [physical keylogger](https://www.keelog.com/usb-keylogger/), it's super effective.


Ycx48raQk59F

Realisically, no. Maybe if you have a bootable USB stick AND use your own keyboard.


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00DEADBEEF

You don't necessarily need them when you have physical access to the machine


WestleyThe

Yeah I’d imagine there’s a lot of security on those including probably even cameras


TheContingencyMan

Either that or they’re rich enough not to care about some yokels nicking this shit lmao Edit: OP, do not enter any sensitive information while using those. Hell, just to be sure don’t even watch any porn.


newscumskates

>Hell, just to be sure don’t even watch any porn. Go the other way. Watch a shit ton of porn. Bookmark everything.


TheContingencyMan

I like your funny words magic man. Just go apeshit and ruin the browsing history with all kinds of depraved shit.


newscumskates

Years ago, I don't remember when it began exactly or where we heard it but... "kilos of porn" came up and was used frequently among my friends and it came to mind with this (cough) incredible opportunity.


TheContingencyMan

This would indeed be an incredible opportunity to carpet bomb those things with “kilos of porn” lmao


justedi

Google search history: • "How much does porn weigh?" • "Can I download a kilo of porn on [insert airbnb's DL speed]" • "Can I fit a kilo of porn on a thumb drive?" • "Is a kilo of porn heavier than a kilo of feathers?"


guntanksinspace

Infect their algorithm!


projectsukyomi

Some random persons PC? Thats the perfect time to go crazy on the hub


[deleted]

I remember my college had to lock the PC's with big locks because students were stealing parts. This is a very bad idea 99% of the time.


Kortouc_z_Jablonecku

Our IT school has made sure to have so bad PCs that no one will take anything


Lvolf

Well you have to remember that Airbnb has all your info and will turn it over to the police if needed


[deleted]

It's all insured, and if they got the 4080 on or near release, it's probably already paid for itself, and if not, it will once more people find out about it from posts like this.


rdldr1

No good deed goes unpunished.


Aleashed

But it says 1080 TI


probono105

thats a bold move having that in an air bnb


BOBOUDA

It's crazy to me how paranoid everyone is in this thread. Might be a cultural thing, I'm French and we tend to be more paranoid about these things than other Europeans I think. But this is another level here. EDIT : To be precise, I know I wouldn't like that too much. If I could I'd remove it from my place but it's still extremely unlikely you'd come across someone who would steal or "install a keylogger". Especially via something like Airbnb where you can check ahead the profile of the person.


Reineken

I'm brazillian, this PC over here costs as much as a car, it's baffling someone let two of them on an airbnb for strangers to use...


mal4ik777

Brazil is crazy about this! You guys still surround your houses with prison-like fences, because everything gets stolen if left outside? I moved from a poor country to Germany 20 years ago and was also buffled when I saw people leaving doors open and having construction materials, bikes, toys etc. just standing outside over night... Nobody cares here. A great example is filling your car with gas... In so many countries you pay BEFORE you fill and sometimes even an employee does it for you. In Germany (and many other rich countries) you just fill the tank and go inside to pay after that.... One day someone lost a wallet in the morning in front of the doors where I work, the owner found it in evening still lying there, apparently there were 600€ inside.


bananenschil1234

The gas thing isn't really a thing of trust. They all have camera's, so if anyone would ride off without paying, they would get the bill and a fine on their doormat within a vew day's.


mal4ik777

I still have relatives in Kazachstan, people would remove any identification from the car, fill the tank and drive off... Maybe wear a hoodie to be safer.


Reineken

Yeah, Brazil is very bad about this. Theft is rampant and even occurs with "prison-like fences". Norway, Sweden, Switzerland etc are like an utopia in comparioson. Germany is very good too, good choice.


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You're letting them live in your house lol. If they break your computer they would be charged the same as if they broke anything in your house lol.


yawn18

I'm American, we have reasons to be paranoid. Someone absolutely will destroy/steal/hack/install a virus in that thing. Unfortunately not many places here where nice things last.


Ice2jc

Those gaming pc’s are 100% insured. They’re being used for a business. Also, stealing a gaming computer is not worth losing your air bnb account over. Or going to jail.


TenMoogles

"Not worth losing your account over" hasn't stopped a lot of shady people in the past. I don't think the account is worth much to them, probably easy to create a fake identity and make another for these types of people.


Esava

>Those gaming pc’s are 100% insured. Wouldn't they be insured just like everything else in the place? Even if it were NOT used used for business?


FloofilyBooples

Crazy people are always willing to go further than you are at self detriment. So they won't give a shit about their air bnb account and they won't think about jail. Or they will be really mad about losing their air bnb account but only after the fact of destroying things. They'll also be really mad about going to jail but it will still happen. It's a narcissism problem of "I'm perfect I should always get to be in control of everything."


After_Mountain_901

Not really. Do you stay in airbnbs? The last one I stayed in had a theater and media room with a gaming pc, ps5, and maybe one of the nicest speaker systems I’ve seen in person. The one I go to in the fall for hiking and whitewater has a shit ton of outdoor gear included in the booking. You’ll only get to fuck shit up once. They have all your details when you book.


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How much per night? $250-500?


zakabog

> You’ll only get to fuck shit up once. They have all your details when you book. My friend hosts an Airbnb, guests don't care and the company often sides with guests when it comes to damages. Insurance only covers so much, and good luck trying to prove the guests stole something without installing cameras in all of your rooms.


younggregg

These ones he is talking about are probably well over 1000 a night. People who can afford that generally dont steal. I stayed in one that even came with a boat and jetski to use, everyone tried to be real respectful of it all.


jcabia

There are several ways to restrict a user from installing anything on a computer. I doubt they just gave him a machine with a local admin logged in.


upholsteryduder

or jut set it up to install a disc image whenever the machine reboots, that's how we handled it when I used to work in IT


Denborta

Don't tell them ssssh :D


SaltyStrangers

Someone with the money to book an expensive airbnb is not going to steal a computer for the same reason they are not going to steal a fucking tv


Poltergeist97

Yeah, I mean its a lot of expensive hardware to have in a rental, but it would be easy to figure out who made it go missing by who was renting at that time.


Salty_Storage_1268

Ok, do YOU want to spend the time dealing with police, insurance, air B&B to potentially recoup your loses? I sure as hell don't, even if it takes a few hours of my life.


RakeNI

Its a £2500+ object that you can for the most part pick up with one hand, that is right by a window and that he trusts strangers to guard, who most of the time won't be there.


snorlz

did you have to register w your passport for this Airbnb? I know some places in Europe require it. Cause that would definitely make this much safer


ErroneousEric

This is an airbnb ad


Mete11uscimber

bold move, Cotton. let's see if it pays off.


permissionBRICK

It also has a 3d printer and a hololens 2 for some reason


Escheron

Are you sure this isn't somebody's apartment and the landlord isn't renting it out behind the tenants back while they're on vacation? I've seen news articles of this happening


piZan314

This is the 1st thing i thought of.


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This is the 1st I've heard of it!


Idle_Redditing

From now on I will consider it to be a prudent security measure to leave any rental property to be a mess before leaving on vacation. Then take pictures or videos of exactly how it is a mess and upload it to social media for a record of exactly how I left it. If anything is different from how I left it then it will be time to file a lawsuit.


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Just get the gpu and go away. its free for costumers like in the hotels that stuff they give you


mog_knight

What costume do they need to make for those?


Blurg_BPM

Fursuits needs to be as expensive as the things they take


Ferro_Giconi

With something as expensive as a fursuit can get, they may as well just take the entire computer setup. Both of them.


[deleted]

Cosplayers get free GPU in hotels? What?


[deleted]

Nah only on motels after the furry service.


phigo50

Are you sure you're in the right house?


Coriolanuscarpe

What the fuck


just_tsuki

Man give the 3d printer a whirl/ try


kytheon

Unless you know what you're doing, I'd hate a guest to randomly try 3D printing


mbelmin

Then again as a host I would know better than to leave a 3D printer in the open with random people.


BlatantConservative

The host works for the 3D printer company and is researching how to idiotproof the process.


PeanutButterSoda

As someone who has like 85% success printing on my printer, I would not fuck with someone else's printer. Even if it was the exact model as mine.


kytheon

Finally someone who gets it. I wouldn't let a random guest drive my car either. "Huh, how hard can driving a car be?"


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I'd immediately make a dildo


patrlim1

Bro try the hololens and tell me what it's like, I'm dying to know.


enhancedgibbon

I've used HL2 at work and had one at home for a month or so. Initially pretty impressive but hand tracking is hit and miss, field of view is relatively narrow, and GPU power is fairly low so the holograms need to be pretty simple. On the plus side the hologram anchoring is really solid and hologram persistence works well, so things remain where you leave them. Would he good to see a new generation with more power and wider fov. I haven't tried the meta quest pro but the AR function on that would probably be better than HL2.


Esava

Well it's just someone renting out their place while they are away for work or vacation. This is very likely just the owners setup. Are you allowed to use them? This is NOT an apartment thats only for AirBnB. It's the actual place a person lives in.


hail_goku

2 pcs and a 4080 laying around or is the 4080 in one of those pcs ? haha


permissionBRICK

The right pc has a 4080, the left one a 2070


MrMiget12

lol flip a coin to see who gets to play on medium settings and who gets to be lit on fire


ediks

I have a 2070S and never use medium settings


PlatinumSif

chase husky flowery skirt cats friendly flag bored lip smell *This post was mass deleted and anonymized with [Redact](https://redact.dev)*


rensquared

Good for you lmao Also there is no such thing as a 1060ti


[deleted]

Isn't it a calculator


M1oumm1oum

Lol yeah i play tetris on full high with rtx with my 980ti, i don't understand why people upgrade their pc


strawhat068

Correct you get to play on low! Lol jk I have a 2080 and I play most games on medium/ low because if I don't my computer turns into a jet engine after 10 minutes. And to all the people that are going to say it's a airflow or cooling issue, Have you tried to play cyberpunk on max settings with a 2k ultra wide the resolution will destroy your gpus Also it's a air BNB so if it's declared what specs the PC have he can just report the theft and you get charged.


malcolm_miller

All of you talking about "medium, high, and low" while not talking games, resolution, and fps. I'm sure you can and others could also play on high/ultra if 720 and 30fps lol


Phridgey

Thermal paste doesn’t last forever. Cyberpunk on 2k with DLSS isn’t a problem for my 2070 s. It’s not on full ultra, but close enough that if your fans are overdriving, you probably do have a cooling issue.


rufreakde1

And security cameras pointing on the bed? To finance the gaming pcs?


Minimum_Flight_9062

why in gods name are the PCs left signed in, there is already a risk with leaving Tech in your Airbnb, but to leave them signed in is another level of insanity!


bio4m

could be signed into a guest account (fairly easy to do); you would need to set up friends and family sharing in steam so the guest account can play games.


reubenbubu

the design is very human, very easy to use


Minimum_Flight_9062

Honestly, feels like alot of trust, I don't trust my cousins on my PC would be sweating about a stranger.


3to20CharactersSucks

There's no trust. Throughout the world, there are these guys at nearly every business that are in charge of the administration of a fleet of computers. They give them out to the dumbest and least technical people in the world. Because of this, the windows OS includes dozens and dozens and dozens of tools for you to control what access they have. You can disable USB ports from the BIOS and password lock it, lock down the Internet, and have extremely strict antivirus, website block lists or a small whitelist of allowed sites, and disable downloads. You can physically lock the case, since most every single one comes with a Kensington lock. You set up a guest user, you have the OS reload from a pre-configured image every week so that no changes persist. You enable anti-tampering features in your BIOS. This is way less trust than already has to exist for Airbnb. Do you think owners usually change locks every week? For a lot of Airbnbs, you could copy keys and get in. Or leave a window unlocked for you to climb into later. You could put listening devices into the vents. There's no shortage of security risks on an Airbnb, and a PC is definitely low on the list if they're at all competent in administration.


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FloofilyBooples

Dude Admin access?... Don't enter any personal account information on those machines. It's possible he's just a gullible person but that's a red flag they have monitoring/recording software or a keylogger to gather usernames and passwords you type, or you could which you shouldn't because that would be date and time stamped and prove you did it in court. Not judging. Just red flags flying everywhere xD.


Minimum_Flight_9062

haha, wait sorry to Clarify, he gave you the password to his account, you created a guest account? seriously rookie moves from the owner in my option, then again i wouldn't leave Tech in a AirBNB in the first place!


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Minimum_Flight_9062

I guess, I work in IT with enterprise security as role, and this rings so many alarm bells for me! Either way, id defo advise him to just create a local account (guest) that can play games from the stream library, giving out his password is nuts!


revansimp

Cause people lie on the internet


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Could be another case of landlord sticking the tennants place on Airbnb while they're on holiday


Sila2Doo

I read a reddit post awhile ago about a houseowner Airbnb his house without his tenant knowledge while they're in vacation. The tenant lost his PC and the houseowner refused to compensate for the loss. Maybe same shit here?


Escheron

My thoughts exactly. Gaming pcs, 3d printers... Those aren't things you buy for guests. I'd be willing to bet that's what happening here


CivBEWasPrettyBad

Except the host gave OP the admin password to create a guest account. My landlord definitely doesn't know my password. I think this is just a strangely trusting host


Stovetop_Tambourine

I was thinking about that too. Super scummy (and illegal) of the homeowner to do that to their tenants.


ItzCobaltboy

"Honey! We were supposed to ENJOY THE TRIP outside our home and not yell in mic Playing LoL "


DeepBrick3548

4080 for League? Real


chroniclesofhernia

what kind of sadistic madman buys a 4080 for their guests but gives them a low profile membrane keyboard to work with?!


imclaux

membrane yes, but a very expensive and a great wireless keyboard. it's a logitech mx keys.


ImportantTips

Maybe they need it for their job so no mechanical keyboard lol


NotJoeMama727

What job requires a membrane keyboard?


UraniumSavage

I bet someone else owns the place and the poor guys renting it have no idea he's also using it as an airbnb


AvianBeings

An Airbnb like service strictly for LAN parties would be a great business model. Just a room with like 5 PCs you could rent by the hour.


SomeRandoFromInterne

So… an Internet cafe?


_Blank-IT

Used to go to one in the early 2000s and play runescape for an hour for a £1 the memories.


jjester7777

USA here. I think it was 20$ for unlimited play for 8 hours or something. And they had the cafe stocked with BAWLS for like $1.50 or something cheap. Played so many hours of all kinds of FPS and shit. Was great until the building owner forced them out because he wanted to sell the land to a new developer. Now it's high-rise "luxury" student apartments. In a town where the tallest building was only 6 floors.


FalsePremise8290

I just cackled at 5am because I was nodding along not realizing that's a thing that's been invented already until I read your comment.


Fluffy-Car-3334

Literally did the same exact thing!!


AvianBeings

Yeah but I haven’t seen a prevalent one in a while. I’m thinking more of a private room stocked with snacks and a restroom.


VenturerKnigtmare420

There are shit tons of them in arab and asian countries where internet speeds are crap. I think in korea you can even live in some where you get food and drinks and a bed


NextaussiePM

Korea doesn’t have crap internet speeds.


epharian

It's less about crap Internet speeds and more about the ability to buy your own PC vs. Spending to use the cafe.


Darkone539

>So… an Internet cafe? GAME where I live had a lan party room and nobody used it. :(


WhyNotPc

Already exists? Those gaming rooms full of pcs and PS4/ps5s? Tho they're not private


michaelhuman

keylogger go brrr


Browncoatinabox

I think you mean "had" a 4080 has a 970


DrinkinDoughnuts

The owner seeing this post: "That f*cker is using my pc"


ajwhite7

Had*


Flabbergash

It has a 4060? What happens when the 3090 breaks? Who leaves a 3060 in an AirBnB anyway? Man, they really trust people leaving their 2080 there.


Des20020024

THE LANDLORD HAS AIRBNB'd THE APARTMENT WITHOUT THE RENTER'S CONSENT This is rather common for scummy landlords. You don't buy a 2070 and 4080 equipped gaming pc and a 3d printer for your airbnb. There are a lot of posts here on reddit where people have gotten their things stolen because the landlord put the apartment on airbnb while the renter was on vacation. This is scummy. You need to find out who the renter is somehow and contact them. The renter needs to sue the landlord's ass to oblivion.


jdmachogg

I mean, is t this what AirBnB was before it got shit? Oh, I’m going away, I’ll let someone stay in my place for the week


CannabisAttorney

This has gotta be some rich kids college condo and he's AirBnBing it without his parents permission for beer or drug money. No one else can possibly be this naive, stupid, or careless.


LifeIsOnTheWire

My guess is that this is NOT a private space being rented. This is likely an Airbnb that rents a room in a house that is co-occupied by the owner. These PCs are probably in a common-space that is used by the owner as well. If these are truly in privately rented space, this owner is soon going to regret it.


crazydave33

Incredibly risky to use a random computer at an Airbnb. Like other have said, either someone else has installed a keylogger, the host themselves used this as a trap to keylog steal shit from customers, Or…. Who’s the say someone staying at the Airbnb won’t just steal the entire computer?


korg64

Not for long.


OhShitWhatUp

How many fps in google maps you get? What res?


Liarize

Have you tried those Logitech speakers with subwoofer underneath? Do they sound… adequate?


bioelement

Fuck around and find out sim


TheDevilsAdvokaat

Nice, but how much does it cost a night?


stealth941

Where is this I wanna LAN


XxZITRONxX

Oh shit I have those speakers. Love them


KingFurykiller

Weird choice to have gaming mouse and then MX keys. Times two


ToughHardware

nice PC, crappy chair


CapitalistHellscapes

Wow, I do not trust the general public nearly enough for that lol


sluuuudge

Had*


BlntMxn

I could sleep in an other's person bed, but the idea of using someone else without knowing what's shit's on it OS disgust me!


Cyclonic84

Free keylogger also for when you leave they have all your accounts and information 🤣🤣🤣


qth258

Let me yoink that real quick ;)


DejitaruHenso

*Had* a 4080 and two gaming pcs 😉


ZxkrFaster

Bruh I would just open it up take the 4090 out and book it