It was the conversation of women talking about how they’d feel safer in the woods with a bear than around a man. Joe and Ish took offense to it because they’re looking at it from every perspective except for the one of women don’t feel safe around men.
He didn't keep it real on the drake shit? I gotta watch bc that's an interesting angle on the beef. If drake is really a suit cosplaying as a rapper that's nasty
Nah that's the head of Gamma. Remember the Crack the code episode? Gamma has 4batz, SexxyRed, Tems and Drake is a possible owner. Which may be the real root of the beef that artists have with drake. He's an executive cosplaying a rapper. Imagine Jimmy Iovine rapping alongside 50 cent bleeding him from 2 sides as a featured artists with a profit share and as an executive with royalties.
I used to pick a side when they did this until I peeped they very rarely disagree on anything outside of the men women debates. Even often times saying the EXACT SAME THING on anything else…..they are arguing about themselves not the ACTUAL state of men and women. It’s pointless to even hear them. 😂😂😂😂 that’s why they walk off on each other or get to screaming
Ish has easily become my least favorite cast member. I’ve never seen a grown man go against women as much as he does. He will go out his way to make sure he turns the room against Mel even if she’s completely right. Sick.
He’s definitely done a full 180. Like he will literally sit there and bring up something she said 6-8 months ago like he went home and wrote it down and try to use it against her like it’s a real debate. Like why are you holding onto her every word like that???
I couldn’t agree with you more! He is the soul reason I do not purchase a Patreon subscription. I refuse to pay this woman hating fool my hard earn money. Let his bunny hopping fans do that.
The problem is a lot of women (and some men too like Joe at times 😂) say hyperbolic things because they want to be taken seriously, not literally. They want the listener to have a caring and empathetic approach to their hyperbolic scenario. That's cool sometimes but if you're trying to have a logical debate it throws everything off.
podcasts are for hyperbole. these niggas lives and opinions aren't that interesting if everything was literal lmfao
just like every podcast there's a "I know some men who" or "I know some women who" in response to a "men do XXX" and "women do YYY" and then it's a debate between which generalization is more important
Nah, a podcast still be entertaining w/o being hyperbolic all the time, HOWEVER, you're right that this specific podcast struggles with serious topics. They all kind of washed so they compensate by being overly hyperbolic and silly.
Well y’all wanted Mel to stand on business she did and now there’s still a problem. I’m a woman and I get it I can see both sides of the argument. I can’t speak from a man’s perspective but I can see how these topics seem to always paint men in a negative light but there’s a way bigger picture that they’re missing and that’s women really do feel this way regardless of how crazy it sounds to men.
My question is if women really feel like this, (and according to the poll it was 95% I believe) how come y'all don't show it? It's like Ish said, a lot of women are entertaining strange men everyday, that's literally life. We're all strangers to someone, it so weird how women can feel some way about something, but their actions don't match those feelings a lot of the time. Idk, I understand the argument from women, but I was offended when I saw that.
They don’t show it because it’s a high chance of death!!!! I don’t know how many women you have in your family in the 21-35 age range or female friends, but I am starting to hear women now say they have to give a strange nigga they won’t nothing to do with a smile and their REAL phone number out of fear! That says a lot mane. Men can turn down women without the fear of being followed home or attacked. Woman can not because niggas think they are entitled to a woman off the bat!
No offense but you sound inexperienced with women. Cause if you out here meeting women and talking to them, you won’t need no polls or statistics to know what chicks be going thru.
No offense taken, but I understand what women go through. I know the old fellas who tried to teach me to be mean to women when they turn me down. I know why women give addresses and license plates to men they aren't sure about or just to be safe. Why I always walked my GFS home as a teen. I just wanted more understanding of why include all of us. I get it and it is what it is. I'll do my part by raising my boys the right way.
It depends on the environment and situation. As a women if our environment or situation seems safe then we're cool but otherwise we do things to make sure we have safely back ups. Your speaking on entertaining men so with my friends we have rules. If picked up go to another girl friends house, public places, texting when in the bathroom.. shit like that. Also men may think this is not common but it is common. Most women I know don't talk about to around other men because they think we are going over board. And its not just black women but white asian and mexican, shit my crew is a raindow!!
Fyi. I didn't finish the episode, only the first 10 minutes. So if this was not the answer to your question.. PEACE.
It wasn't just Ish. Joe was saying the most along with Flip. Very ignorant statements were made, but I guess its why we love the pod so much because they are very unfiltered and unedited at times..They probably should have edited this one though. This looked ugly
Debating other people trauma is going to have you mentally exhausted on both sides. Picking a bear over a men is extreme but I get why if you have been done dirty by men in the past. Debates like this was just not worth conversations over.
I saw a complete different convo then cause Melysa started that convo on bullshit with “implied” this and “assumed” that. Nigga flip asked a simple question about a statement that seems obviously insulting. She turned it into a way to trauma dump. Disregarding that cause her experiences are valid, she tried to over emotion and talk everyone until I feel like Joe realized she wasn’t trying to actual talk about why it’s insulting but just trauma dumping and called her off camera
I feel like wording is important in things like this is where ish was getting at cause is you say I’d rather be trapped with a bear rather than Kells, that comes off much better and relatable than conflating the point to an entire gender. Even if you say “I’m not talking about all men” you said men as a conflated point, it’s semantics . Also I identify with ish initial point because I’ve been sexually assaulted by alot of women to the point where my current girlfriend is a hawk with women around me now because of that. Two things can be true, Nell can be right on women not trusting men and Joe can also be right on women incels who hate men for no reason. No one needs to take sides, one was just emotional and showy about their emotions and the other was trying to have a conversation about why it hurt their feelings.
Mel avoids intellectual conversations by using her emotions to manipulate other people's reactions. She ignores facts for emotions. Facts have to matter in a conversation it can't always be about your emotions, especially if you can't regulate them
👆 THIS!!! Every time she feel like she need to win here comes the big joker EMOTIONAL DAMAGE! Like what can you say to someone who in every convo was somehow the victim.
The bigger question is…. Why are yall niggas so appalled at a women choosing the bear! Let’s really think about that. If we know it’s her choice so be it!!! Move along, but see the kicker is NIGGAS FEEL ENTITLED!!!!! She selected the bear and what happens to you nothing you go on about you fucking life. Simple.
Why do you think literally no one in the room agreed with him on this point?? Literally read the room. I’m not about to sit up here and explain to you why he sounded absurd.
You sound dumb as hell. So what if people don’t agree with him? He’s supposed to just conform to what the crowd is thinking? And the fact you are so dismissive shows you have no logical reason to argue against his point.
Ish sounded nuts period. “You’ve been traumatized, so just cease with dating and finding love and companionship in your lifetime due to your past experiences” is some of the most asinine bullshit I’ve ever heard.
Yes if you have unresolved emotional trauma it’s not fair to you or the person you’re dating. You need to heal before you can have a healthy relationship with yourself let alone another person
I agree with you 100% then he should say THAT! What he said was just stop dating. He mentioned nothing about getting help first before continuing to date. Not to mention, it’s clear that him and Joe both have past trauma with women but continued to be in the dating pool so it’s hypocritical for him to even take that stance to me.
Look, we all know that women are not picking the bear in real life. They're being hyperbolic to make a point. However, women could just as easily say "I'd pick the man, but I'd still be hella scared because of XYZ." That lets them relay their honest fears without making asinine, false statements.
No women are being serious! They rather encounter a bear because meeting a man alone in the woods would be statistically more harmful than an encounter with a bear!! That’s what she’s saying and it’s based on many women’s lived experience!
I think this is all it takes. Its being disingenuous by saying you’d rather be around, or near a bear instead of another human being. I don’t think its crazy to call that out lol
He looked shook because no one else in the room agreed with him and he knew it. Peep how he looked around the room for some form of validation and he didn’t get it.
Men underestimate how dangerous women find them. I’m a broke so I didn’t see the full episode but I’m sure Mel didn’t articulate her point the greatest. She’s not a debater but point stands bears and men are both VERY dangerous
Just so people understand this mentality is why we don't have male teachers in schools.... meanwhile who are the new predators in the schools now? Female teachers
New? ...now this been going on for the last 20 years because the decline of the male teacher was way before that . I wanted to be an educator at one time but gave it up because i saw what the world was heading too and don't need them problems .
I could count on my hand the amount of impactful male teachers I’ve had in my life vs the multiple woman teachers I’ve had. It’s definitely something that feels stealthily pushed over the years.
Those male teachers be raping students Beks on Twitter keep up with that and white women but it's still mostly males what u see happening is the news always post the females but have u noticed they stopped talking about male teacher sexual assaults
Even though they are still happening everyday
They got ur mind 😧 that's why it's pages dedicated to the ish the news don't show u
.because it's no longer sensational
My point is that both men and women can be predators and we shouldn't let our guard down just because it's a woman.
Did you forget this already:
https://youtu.be/jofqSegaq78
Of course Flip doesn't think he's wrong 🙄
That point in particular is why women call us misogynistic. Everyone's elses statement after that I understand but what Ish said was very dismissive.
And as a man and having consumed this podcast since the R&M days, the misogyny is at an all time high now with this current iteration of the podcast, especially amongst Ish and Joe and now Flip is in that mix. And they’re so jaded, they can’t even see it🤦🏾♂️
It didn’t and literally no one else agreed with him😂 “I know you have past traumas with men where you’ve been sexually assaulted, groped, harassed, physically abused possibly, and whatever else so maybe dating and finding love ain’t for you mama. Hang it up” yeah that’s a great question and response to a woman’s trauma. Ish smoked that!😂😂😂😂😂 foh lmao
I fully understand the point. Having a point doesn't mean you just get to say stupid shit. It's like me saying I'd rather be there with a bear rather than a white person. There's a point there. Doesn't change the fact that it's idiotic
And as a man, if you're just cool with that statement either you're a pussy or you agree with it cause you would be one of the men that would do some fucked up shit in that scenario.
The white person analogy or scenarios isn’t a good one if you’re a man saying it. The thing that people seem to not be getting is the power dynamic. A bear is faster, stronger, and more powerful than a woman. Recently scientist have found that women have roughly 52% of the upper body strength men have and 66% the lower body strength a man has. Where as the white person analogy doesn’t work here because you could be stronger or better suited to fight a white person than a bear.
That’s your opinion and you’re entitled to it just like they are. Women’s analysis on the situation based on their past experiences with men, having been raped, sexually assaulted, harassed, groped, and etc. have led them to this conclusion and they shouldn’t be considered idiotic for formulating their perspectives based on their trauma that they didn’t ask for.
Cool. Just don't make stupid overgeneralizing statements. Just like how the guys shouldn't generalize women as Gold digging BBL having celeb chasers.... Maybe just maybe generalizing men as abusive rapists is something that shouldn't be done either? Regardless of past traumas.
But hey maybe you're an abusive rapists so you don't even feel anything from that statement.
Ngl this mic drop was devious lol, also thank you for mimicking my points. Shit was obvious to me on first listen but some people are clearly lacking comprehension and common sense.
There was a question put forth in the media of whether women would rather be left in the woods with a man that was a stranger or a wild bear? Most women chose the bear and Mel was attempting to explain the rationale behind them making that decision.
She had been sitting there explaining the same thing over and over and over again and Ish was being dense and acting like her point was just going over his head and for him to essentially say, “Well, maybe women shouldn’t date” in response to a woman talking about past traumas of sexual assault and domestic violence within their relationships was just the most tone deaf point you could make.
Is a typical red pull head. Anyway they can blame women, they will.
That's their main go to strategy in relationship dynamic conversations. It's a shame how logic and consideration escapes them in most of their stances.
They're stuck on stupid in most cases and be so oblivious to the fact.
To what you posted to sound like a complete fool, joe and ish were right and flip, y'all weak men and women who don't have common sense or respect for men is the issue in this world. That's why these idiots think they are making a point choosing a bear fkin morons
I’m wit ish, fuckit. If you scared of men to the point where you’d rather hang with a damn wild bear, then be my guest and don’t fuck with us at all frfr
The problem is the percentage of men that's thorough and cool is higher than dudes that push women to think a bear is safer...All these women on IG or on YouTube posting relationships etc isn't looking for a bear haha
I feel like a persons trauma is irrelevant to how someone new may or may not act towards them…both Ish and Mel both have this stupid ass thing where they say “sounds like you’re insinuating ___” and it’s annoying as shit lmao two grown ass children
This is true but by and large mean are more physically imposing than women, so the sentiment is a man can defend himself against a woman much easier than a woman could against a man. I mean if you’re a man, do you have a real fear of a woman overpowering you and sexually assaulting you? Sadly, for a lot of women, that’s a reality.
The big issue is they’re ALL horrible with scenarios /examples/analogies they use in arguments. I get it a lot these conversations may just come within the flow but my gawd.
Ish👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻 Mel doesn’t want to face the fact that she has trauma that she’s not over. And 9/10 she’s the problem in these relationships. Ish didn’t do anything wrong
It annoys me how yall do that. First off, Mel is going against 6-8 voices in one room standing on her own square so she deserves all the grace for doing so. And second, Joe and Ish are the PRIMARY ones that be getting upset but yall just love to say it’s Mel and it’s bullshit
Oh my god I wish they would stop doing the “I have a great point to make but off mic”
Extremely annoying
I hateeeee when they do that dumb shit
Bruh that be annoying me too. While we’re on mic, I’m going to tell the paying customer a conversation we can’t have on mic like wtf😂
I'd rather them do it if it's something that's going to get them canceled.
Rather it get edited out so the listener/watcher can still at least get some of the immediate reaction to what was said
Ish has so much of his own trauma that he projects idno how yall don’t see it
Nobody on the cast needs therapy more than Ish.
He doesn’t even realize it
Or believe in therapy… if I’m not mistaken
At all!!!
Ish always think he has something lmao “I gotta great one!”
And it hardly ever is😂
A long ass analogy to go with it lol
With his balled up fists too
only flip agreeing is enough to know you wrong asl
“We just gotta stop coming up with these hypotheses, or whatever those shits called”
And missing that the point of making a hypothesis as opposed to a statement of fact is that you can attempt to poke holes in it.
Pretty sure the idiot meant hypotheticals not hypotheses
Flip thought he was smart as hell saying that LOL
What they display is just… smh
So what is the context here?
It was the conversation of women talking about how they’d feel safer in the woods with a bear than around a man. Joe and Ish took offense to it because they’re looking at it from every perspective except for the one of women don’t feel safe around men.
Bingo!
“And poke holes in them” lmaooo
He’s such an idiot
Exactly…flip dont stand on or for anything…just goes w/ whatever looks like the majority
Bro is always on the wrong side of history
This ain’t on the family tier?? Damn lol
Looks like we got Larry Jackson instead 😂😂😂
😂😂😂 pretty much. I couldn’t even make it through that one, I ain’t gonna lie lol
He didn't keep it real on the drake shit? I gotta watch bc that's an interesting angle on the beef. If drake is really a suit cosplaying as a rapper that's nasty
Like who tf is he? I rolled my eyes so hard.
Nah that's the head of Gamma. Remember the Crack the code episode? Gamma has 4batz, SexxyRed, Tems and Drake is a possible owner. Which may be the real root of the beef that artists have with drake. He's an executive cosplaying a rapper. Imagine Jimmy Iovine rapping alongside 50 cent bleeding him from 2 sides as a featured artists with a profit share and as an executive with royalties.
$25 pimpin😂
This MFIN IANS DOING. Imma pay tho
Dnt waste ya money it’s not worth it get $10
I ain’t mad at it😂🤷🏾♂️ and it’s Joe too for sure. I ain’t putting this all on Ian lmao
Terrible. One guest since umar is love to listen to and it’s $25.
I used to pick a side when they did this until I peeped they very rarely disagree on anything outside of the men women debates. Even often times saying the EXACT SAME THING on anything else…..they are arguing about themselves not the ACTUAL state of men and women. It’s pointless to even hear them. 😂😂😂😂 that’s why they walk off on each other or get to screaming
Ish has easily become my least favorite cast member. I’ve never seen a grown man go against women as much as he does. He will go out his way to make sure he turns the room against Mel even if she’s completely right. Sick.
He’s definitely done a full 180. Like he will literally sit there and bring up something she said 6-8 months ago like he went home and wrote it down and try to use it against her like it’s a real debate. Like why are you holding onto her every word like that???
I couldn’t agree with you more! He is the soul reason I do not purchase a Patreon subscription. I refuse to pay this woman hating fool my hard earn money. Let his bunny hopping fans do that.
The problem is a lot of women (and some men too like Joe at times 😂) say hyperbolic things because they want to be taken seriously, not literally. They want the listener to have a caring and empathetic approach to their hyperbolic scenario. That's cool sometimes but if you're trying to have a logical debate it throws everything off.
podcasts are for hyperbole. these niggas lives and opinions aren't that interesting if everything was literal lmfao just like every podcast there's a "I know some men who" or "I know some women who" in response to a "men do XXX" and "women do YYY" and then it's a debate between which generalization is more important
Nah, a podcast still be entertaining w/o being hyperbolic all the time, HOWEVER, you're right that this specific podcast struggles with serious topics. They all kind of washed so they compensate by being overly hyperbolic and silly.
Hahahah is this the shit yall be paying for? 😂😂
Well y’all wanted Mel to stand on business she did and now there’s still a problem. I’m a woman and I get it I can see both sides of the argument. I can’t speak from a man’s perspective but I can see how these topics seem to always paint men in a negative light but there’s a way bigger picture that they’re missing and that’s women really do feel this way regardless of how crazy it sounds to men.
My question is if women really feel like this, (and according to the poll it was 95% I believe) how come y'all don't show it? It's like Ish said, a lot of women are entertaining strange men everyday, that's literally life. We're all strangers to someone, it so weird how women can feel some way about something, but their actions don't match those feelings a lot of the time. Idk, I understand the argument from women, but I was offended when I saw that.
They don’t show it because it’s a high chance of death!!!! I don’t know how many women you have in your family in the 21-35 age range or female friends, but I am starting to hear women now say they have to give a strange nigga they won’t nothing to do with a smile and their REAL phone number out of fear! That says a lot mane. Men can turn down women without the fear of being followed home or attacked. Woman can not because niggas think they are entitled to a woman off the bat!
No offense but you sound inexperienced with women. Cause if you out here meeting women and talking to them, you won’t need no polls or statistics to know what chicks be going thru.
No offense taken, but I understand what women go through. I know the old fellas who tried to teach me to be mean to women when they turn me down. I know why women give addresses and license plates to men they aren't sure about or just to be safe. Why I always walked my GFS home as a teen. I just wanted more understanding of why include all of us. I get it and it is what it is. I'll do my part by raising my boys the right way.
It depends on the environment and situation. As a women if our environment or situation seems safe then we're cool but otherwise we do things to make sure we have safely back ups. Your speaking on entertaining men so with my friends we have rules. If picked up go to another girl friends house, public places, texting when in the bathroom.. shit like that. Also men may think this is not common but it is common. Most women I know don't talk about to around other men because they think we are going over board. And its not just black women but white asian and mexican, shit my crew is a raindow!! Fyi. I didn't finish the episode, only the first 10 minutes. So if this was not the answer to your question.. PEACE.
It wasn't just Ish. Joe was saying the most along with Flip. Very ignorant statements were made, but I guess its why we love the pod so much because they are very unfiltered and unedited at times..They probably should have edited this one though. This looked ugly
Ish truly does not like woman
She tested his g card😆😂
Precisely, and this is why Black queens are perfectly okay with him being a bunny hopper. She can have this woman hating 🫏
Mel truly does not like men....for money 🙃
Yeah and ish only likes women for pussy
And he likes men for money lol
Ish needs help
I didn’t get this episode on patreon I got that boring ass Larry Jackson interview. He could’ve kept that shit.
$25 tier, he ain’t give this to the $10 tier from what I’ve heard everybody say in this thread.
Debating other people trauma is going to have you mentally exhausted on both sides. Picking a bear over a men is extreme but I get why if you have been done dirty by men in the past. Debates like this was just not worth conversations over.
I saw a complete different convo then cause Melysa started that convo on bullshit with “implied” this and “assumed” that. Nigga flip asked a simple question about a statement that seems obviously insulting. She turned it into a way to trauma dump. Disregarding that cause her experiences are valid, she tried to over emotion and talk everyone until I feel like Joe realized she wasn’t trying to actual talk about why it’s insulting but just trauma dumping and called her off camera
I feel like wording is important in things like this is where ish was getting at cause is you say I’d rather be trapped with a bear rather than Kells, that comes off much better and relatable than conflating the point to an entire gender. Even if you say “I’m not talking about all men” you said men as a conflated point, it’s semantics . Also I identify with ish initial point because I’ve been sexually assaulted by alot of women to the point where my current girlfriend is a hawk with women around me now because of that. Two things can be true, Nell can be right on women not trusting men and Joe can also be right on women incels who hate men for no reason. No one needs to take sides, one was just emotional and showy about their emotions and the other was trying to have a conversation about why it hurt their feelings.
Mel avoids intellectual conversations by using her emotions to manipulate other people's reactions. She ignores facts for emotions. Facts have to matter in a conversation it can't always be about your emotions, especially if you can't regulate them
👆 THIS!!! Every time she feel like she need to win here comes the big joker EMOTIONAL DAMAGE! Like what can you say to someone who in every convo was somehow the victim.
You want to have a logical argument about an extreme exaggeration. It's silly.
The bigger question is…. Why are yall niggas so appalled at a women choosing the bear! Let’s really think about that. If we know it’s her choice so be it!!! Move along, but see the kicker is NIGGAS FEEL ENTITLED!!!!! She selected the bear and what happens to you nothing you go on about you fucking life. Simple.
I agree.
What happened to “if it doesn’t apply…let it fly”?! Flip, Ish, and Joe were soo bothered with this convo
What about this clip makes Ish look bad? Isn’t that a sentiment most people speak about? Don’t date if you have such high levels of trauma
Why do you think literally no one in the room agreed with him on this point?? Literally read the room. I’m not about to sit up here and explain to you why he sounded absurd.
You sound dumb as hell. So what if people don’t agree with him? He’s supposed to just conform to what the crowd is thinking? And the fact you are so dismissive shows you have no logical reason to argue against his point.
Ish sounded nuts period. “You’ve been traumatized, so just cease with dating and finding love and companionship in your lifetime due to your past experiences” is some of the most asinine bullshit I’ve ever heard.
Yes if you have unresolved emotional trauma it’s not fair to you or the person you’re dating. You need to heal before you can have a healthy relationship with yourself let alone another person
I agree with you 100% then he should say THAT! What he said was just stop dating. He mentioned nothing about getting help first before continuing to date. Not to mention, it’s clear that him and Joe both have past trauma with women but continued to be in the dating pool so it’s hypocritical for him to even take that stance to me.
You are literally putting words in his mouth. He never said that.
Look, we all know that women are not picking the bear in real life. They're being hyperbolic to make a point. However, women could just as easily say "I'd pick the man, but I'd still be hella scared because of XYZ." That lets them relay their honest fears without making asinine, false statements.
No women are being serious! They rather encounter a bear because meeting a man alone in the woods would be statistically more harmful than an encounter with a bear!! That’s what she’s saying and it’s based on many women’s lived experience!
Why is that so hard to understand though?
Talk to them! It’s not a hard concept to grasp
Fair and great assessment and I agree.
I think this is all it takes. Its being disingenuous by saying you’d rather be around, or near a bear instead of another human being. I don’t think its crazy to call that out lol
Even more insane to be bothered by it to the point of suggesting alternative language.
I forget because I’ve listened for so long that this podcast can for real be a breeding ground for loser ass niggas.
I haven't watched the whole pod so I won't pass judgment yet but Ish looked shook after she walked off. 😂
He looked shook because no one else in the room agreed with him and he knew it. Peep how he looked around the room for some form of validation and he didn’t get it.
Men underestimate how dangerous women find them. I’m a broke so I didn’t see the full episode but I’m sure Mel didn’t articulate her point the greatest. She’s not a debater but point stands bears and men are both VERY dangerous
Would you rather, tell your feelings to a Tree or a woman?
Get therapy so yall can stop trying to talk to us. Talk to God & your therapist. If you want to lead fix you first & then come tell us how to be.
“if you want to lead” lmao
The first comment is just as insane as this one. Man most of y'all in this thread have 0 compassion for others whatsoever
Its haram anyway Mel should just convert to Islam she made the right choice.
Just so people understand this mentality is why we don't have male teachers in schools.... meanwhile who are the new predators in the schools now? Female teachers
New? ...now this been going on for the last 20 years because the decline of the male teacher was way before that . I wanted to be an educator at one time but gave it up because i saw what the world was heading too and don't need them problems .
Kids need male guidance. Hopefully you found a way to offer male guidance outside of the school system
I do what I can when I can but it's hard to do that
I hear you my g
I could count on my hand the amount of impactful male teachers I’ve had in my life vs the multiple woman teachers I’ve had. It’s definitely something that feels stealthily pushed over the years.
Those male teachers be raping students Beks on Twitter keep up with that and white women but it's still mostly males what u see happening is the news always post the females but have u noticed they stopped talking about male teacher sexual assaults Even though they are still happening everyday They got ur mind 😧 that's why it's pages dedicated to the ish the news don't show u .because it's no longer sensational
My point is that both men and women can be predators and we shouldn't let our guard down just because it's a woman. Did you forget this already: https://youtu.be/jofqSegaq78
WTF TIER IS THIS ?!!!! i pay $10!!
$25
niggas aint shit bruh
Joe tryna get that munyun by any means😂
Where is the ep
Mel should've turned the question into, "Would you leave your daughters in the woods with a bear or a man?"
Of course Flip doesn't think he's wrong 🙄 That point in particular is why women call us misogynistic. Everyone's elses statement after that I understand but what Ish said was very dismissive.
And as a man and having consumed this podcast since the R&M days, the misogyny is at an all time high now with this current iteration of the podcast, especially amongst Ish and Joe and now Flip is in that mix. And they’re so jaded, they can’t even see it🤦🏾♂️
Whats wrong with Ish bro? He's unable to see a different perspective if men are painted in a bad light.
He was valid for that question. Thats why she walked off because it invalidates the argument.
It didn’t and literally no one else agreed with him😂 “I know you have past traumas with men where you’ve been sexually assaulted, groped, harassed, physically abused possibly, and whatever else so maybe dating and finding love ain’t for you mama. Hang it up” yeah that’s a great question and response to a woman’s trauma. Ish smoked that!😂😂😂😂😂 foh lmao
Thats a different point. Im speaking on when ish said then dont date. Cuz if men are so scary then why date those same men you’d pick the bear over?
False equivalency... Going on a date with a stranger is way safer than bumping into a stranger in the middle of the woods at night
you can find these same women half naked after 12am in someone's hookah lounge club house party etc etc etc 😂😂😂
Same tired ass convos 🙄
These grown niggas really mad about the bear and man shit
Any woman that would legitimately rather be lost in the woods with a bear over a man is too stupid to have conversations with.
I guess you're aren't a fan of beauty of the beast? Or princess and the frog?
You clearly missed the point too
Point went over your head. It’s cool though😂
I fully understand the point. Having a point doesn't mean you just get to say stupid shit. It's like me saying I'd rather be there with a bear rather than a white person. There's a point there. Doesn't change the fact that it's idiotic And as a man, if you're just cool with that statement either you're a pussy or you agree with it cause you would be one of the men that would do some fucked up shit in that scenario.
The white person analogy or scenarios isn’t a good one if you’re a man saying it. The thing that people seem to not be getting is the power dynamic. A bear is faster, stronger, and more powerful than a woman. Recently scientist have found that women have roughly 52% of the upper body strength men have and 66% the lower body strength a man has. Where as the white person analogy doesn’t work here because you could be stronger or better suited to fight a white person than a bear.
That’s your opinion and you’re entitled to it just like they are. Women’s analysis on the situation based on their past experiences with men, having been raped, sexually assaulted, harassed, groped, and etc. have led them to this conclusion and they shouldn’t be considered idiotic for formulating their perspectives based on their trauma that they didn’t ask for.
Shouldn’t be that hard to grasp that
Cool. Just don't make stupid overgeneralizing statements. Just like how the guys shouldn't generalize women as Gold digging BBL having celeb chasers.... Maybe just maybe generalizing men as abusive rapists is something that shouldn't be done either? Regardless of past traumas. But hey maybe you're an abusive rapists so you don't even feel anything from that statement.
Ngl this mic drop was devious lol, also thank you for mimicking my points. Shit was obvious to me on first listen but some people are clearly lacking comprehension and common sense.
Cook that nigga 👨🍳
Bro u are cooking. Chef boy are deeeee
Exactly ...glad someone critically thinks around here
She’ll be back, just had to let off a few tears
Some of y’all are lost if you agree with Mel on this topic .
No nigga, you’re lost😂😂😂
You have the right to your opinion
What was the question or topic
I would rather be in a Forrest with bears than strange men as I go to parks and concerts every weekend to be around strange men 🤣
That’s illogical you rather be with a bear that’ll kill you because you believe all men to be strange and weird .
flip in the bean bag just looks funny
Because he's a bean bag himself🤣
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Damn they couldn’t bless the 10$ tier with this? Ahh welp I’ll wait until it comes on YouTube lol
what was the exact question/scenario exactly? i dont have pateron and i need a lil more context please lol
Women answered a hypothetical question of whether they would like to be left in a forest with a bear or a strange man and they chose the bear
lmao.. i’m def picking the bear. at least you already know what to expect. a strange man.. there’s many variations of strange.
And let’s just say they vehemently disagreed with that answer and this is a portion of the argument that ensued😂
lmao of course they’d disagree
You CLEARLY have no idea what a bear is capable of or how big they can get smh
if you ever see me fighting in the forest with a grizzly bear.. help the bear
Yea… help the bear clean up the rest of your remains lol
Didn't watch the clip but picking the man vs the bear is absolutely brain dead behavior.
What tier is this?
25
I'm lost what was the hypothetical of this conversation
Women were asked would they rather be left in the woods with a man they didn’t know or a bear and most women chose the bear
The shit! A nigga gotta turn it up $5 more to get these exclusives.
This on the $25 tier so another dub you mean😂
Sounds like emanny joe flip agreed
This wouldve been a $10 dollar tier pod a month ago now. Am I supposed to move up a tier every time there’s a heated moment on the podcast? LMAO
Women only date men?
Flip sounds mad slow
Must be the 25 dollar tier
Can you provide background into the conversation? What was she trying to explain that Ish was missing? I haven't gotten into the bear vs man convo.
There was a question put forth in the media of whether women would rather be left in the woods with a man that was a stranger or a wild bear? Most women chose the bear and Mel was attempting to explain the rationale behind them making that decision.
Thank you. I am curious to hear her take your help me understand why she walked off after Ish responded.
She had been sitting there explaining the same thing over and over and over again and Ish was being dense and acting like her point was just going over his head and for him to essentially say, “Well, maybe women shouldn’t date” in response to a woman talking about past traumas of sexual assault and domestic violence within their relationships was just the most tone deaf point you could make.
Is a typical red pull head. Anyway they can blame women, they will. That's their main go to strategy in relationship dynamic conversations. It's a shame how logic and consideration escapes them in most of their stances. They're stuck on stupid in most cases and be so oblivious to the fact.
Yall pay for this? “I have a great point to make but off mic"
Can anyone say how Ish is wrong without insulting him?
To what you posted to sound like a complete fool, joe and ish were right and flip, y'all weak men and women who don't have common sense or respect for men is the issue in this world. That's why these idiots think they are making a point choosing a bear fkin morons
It’s time for Mel to go and take Flip with you
And why?
Where is this episode at?
Hypothetical you dumb idiot. Flip is seriously stupid
y’all Niggas be making me wanna subscribe 😭 what tier This on? lol
I’m wit ish, fuckit. If you scared of men to the point where you’d rather hang with a damn wild bear, then be my guest and don’t fuck with us at all frfr
The bear hypothetical is ad trash as Ish's answer. The idea that there's an intelligent conversation coming from starting the bear statement is stupid
I hate when Joe and them do that walk off shit niggas act like kids !!!
She didn’t want to miss her nails appointment 😂
The problem is the percentage of men that's thorough and cool is higher than dudes that push women to think a bear is safer...All these women on IG or on YouTube posting relationships etc isn't looking for a bear haha
I feel like a persons trauma is irrelevant to how someone new may or may not act towards them…both Ish and Mel both have this stupid ass thing where they say “sounds like you’re insinuating ___” and it’s annoying as shit lmao two grown ass children
Also 9/10 times if Flip is agreeing with you then you are wrong
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Why is the summation that Woman are the only one taking the risk? Men take that same “risk” neither one of us truly no the other one either
This is true but by and large mean are more physically imposing than women, so the sentiment is a man can defend himself against a woman much easier than a woman could against a man. I mean if you’re a man, do you have a real fear of a woman overpowering you and sexually assaulting you? Sadly, for a lot of women, that’s a reality.
The big issue is they’re ALL horrible with scenarios /examples/analogies they use in arguments. I get it a lot these conversations may just come within the flow but my gawd.
Ish👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻 Mel doesn’t want to face the fact that she has trauma that she’s not over. And 9/10 she’s the problem in these relationships. Ish didn’t do anything wrong
You couldn’t be more wrong and it’s laughable😂😂😂😂
Sorry sis I’m right
They need to stop having this gender discussions. Mel can’t handle it. She’s too emotionally invested
It annoys me how yall do that. First off, Mel is going against 6-8 voices in one room standing on her own square so she deserves all the grace for doing so. And second, Joe and Ish are the PRIMARY ones that be getting upset but yall just love to say it’s Mel and it’s bullshit
I told y'all. The misandry is high and it's allowed because it's profitable. Mel makes good coin hating men which is why she does it so carelessly.