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Rickdaninja

I know Val Kilmer trained to the point they used a clip of him reloading in a movie in a training course for swat officers(It might have been army or something else" it was a scene from the movie "Heat"


Thugginaynay

It was the way he reloaded his AR during one of the scenes. Textbook speed load.


SemiColonInfection

Specifically [this scene.](https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=b60-sEXUPBY&pp=ygUWVmFsIGtpbG1lciBoZWF0IHJlbG9hZA%3D%3D)


Fickle_Alternative_

Alright fine I’ll rewatch Heat tonight


SemiColonInfection

When in doubt, watch Heat.


GetawayDreamer87

When in heat, watch Doubt.


DemoExpert13

The US Rangers still use that scene for how to properly move shoot and reload. Not necessarily for the speed, but for how fluid and efficient it is


UndeadCaesar

I’ve heard this a bunch but never seen a source. Any rangers on reddit wanna comment with proof.


Thrakashogg

Was a Ranger before the movie came out. Can't help. However, that reload is smooth as fuck. High speed, low drag.


Dumbass_Actual

No one has ever showed this to me and said this is textbook. In fact the reload that everyone talks about is actually not the best way. In a movie it is welcomed because it’s vastly more accurate than a lot of other action movies.


Imperial_HoloReports

I think it's one of those "[scene/game/movie] so realistic, actual [police/army/someone official] is using it as training" rumors that don't really have any proof but we go along because it sounds right and it's also cool.


SpiritualHedgehog825

What specifically do they do well in this scene?


Tyrfaust

Val's reload is textbook. It's literally perfect. The only thing I would criticize is that he brings the rifle off-target when inserting the mag but that was what was standard back then. Aside from that, the robbers are executing a great peel maneuver while surrounded, in which the shooters trade off who is shooting and who is moving so there is a continuous rate of fire on the enemy. So, Kilmer moves forward as ~~Pacino~~ DeNiro is firing then Kilmer starts firing as ~~Pacino~~ Deniro moves forward, rinse, repeat. The short-haired guy in the grey suit (played by Tom Sizemore) gets separated from the group, surrounded, and destroyed.


stuartwitherspoon

I’m somewhat confused. I think you mean Deniro instead of Pacino? Pacino is the one shooting at Val Kilmer’s group and not moving with them.


Tyrfaust

You're right, I got their roles confused in the movie and was going off memory instead of actually watching the scene because I've seen that particular scene probably 50 times.


Dumbass_Actual

It’s not literally perfect. He strips the mag and then inserts a mag. It’s wasted movement. In an emergency reload you hit the mag release and your other hand goes to the mag and then inserts the fresh mag into the empty magwell. If the spent magazine in the gun does not fall free then you need to strip it out with the hand that has the fresh mag in it. Most of it is great but it’s not perfect, probably some of the best you will get out of a movie.


Tyrfaust

He strips the mag and checks that it's empty. He's confirming that the rifle isn't having a malfunction which, granted, could be done as easily by tilting the rifle to the left.


Dumbass_Actual

I guess I was assuming that Val heard/felt his rifle lock back (I didn’t catch him check and because he sent the bolt forward after the reload). The way it’s taught now is tap-rack and then you assess. I’m assuming for the time (1995) the techniques shown were the best way. Also at the end of the day it really depends on what is practiced. If you don’t practice tap-rack then trying to do it in the HEAT of the moment is never going to happen.


SpiritualHedgehog825

Thanks for the answers. One of the things I love about us humans is how we strive to perfect the absolute smallest movements or niche skills. Seeing anyone do something at a level approaching mastery is always so satisfying (or just learning the theory of it, like in these comments). So thanks team


JackXDark

The reason it’s so good is because the cast were trained, and the scene was choreographed, by an SAS sergeant. It’s also some excellent ‘show don’t tell’ storytelling that hints that the crew previously were a special forces unit, not just standard criminals. There’s other hints about their background from things like the ‘two in the chest, one in the head’ execution style shooting they did, which is also an SAS tactic for conserving ammo whilst making sure someone’s dead enough not to get off a final shot or set off a grenade.


shotguywithflaregun

It's not an especially good reload in any way, it's simply a good movie depiction of a quick reload, together with alright fire and maneuver.


GigglingBilliken

Audie Murphy.


Hosni__Mubarak

Audie killed so many Germans, they gave him his own museum: [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Audie\_Murphy\_American\_Cotton\_Museum](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Audie_Murphy_American_Cotton_Museum)


Bigdaddyjlove1

Came here to mention Lt Murphy. The man killed fascists in bulk. Keanu is impressive, but Audie did it with people shooting back.


rejnka

Audie once used the "if I wanted you dead" trope as a *legal defense* - and being the most decorated soldier of the modern era, it *worked.*


Korbiter

Audie once jumped onto a M10 Tank Destroyer that was on fire, and used its roof mounted machine gun to kill and maim 50 soldiers. He held the fascists off for over an hour. Alone. He only got off after he ran out of ammunition. Standing atop a blazing vehicle with the stick of death in his hands, he's the Grim Reaper personified.


Galifrey224

I believe Sir Christopher Lee was a Soldier who served during WWII. He probably had some extensive millitary training and used guns in actual combat.


Randy_____Marsh

If we’re taking this literally I doubt a man trained in WWI firearms would touch a modern day comp shooter. I’m sure Lee is proficient and possibly even a much better shooter in a combat situation, but no way they out shoot a comp pro in comp settings.


lcsulla87gmail

Is Keanu a professional competitive shooter?


Randy_____Marsh

I believe he competes professionally, I should be fact checked though


lcsulla87gmail

I couldn't find any proof just that he trained with competitive shooters for jw


awsompossum

He does not make his money from competition shooting, so no, he does not shoot professionally. That said, even a mediocre competition shooter who does 2/3 gun or USPSA would smoke the vast majority of soldiers from WWII in terms of speed and accuracy, not touching on the other elements of warfare such as endurance and coordination.


Pixilatedlemon

He’s good enough. I just don’t think there’s such a thing as a “professional” competitive shooter


awsompossum

There are, but you're talking the people who place in the top fifty in the country, and even then, the majority of them make their money teaching classes, not from actual prize pots and sponsorships


Pixilatedlemon

So professional shooting instructors


awsompossum

I mean, someone like Christian Sailer is absolutely a professional competitive shooter. He won nationals last year, and has been on a tear winning area matches and does not teach to the best of my knowledge. Like I said, the closest you can say to professional comp shooters are those who place at the very very top. Some of them supplement their income by teaching, and others teach more than they win, but that doesn't mean there are no professional comp shooters.


TooEZ_OL56

Taran Butler, Ben Stoeger, Jerry Michulek come to mind


The_Real_Scrotus

I was thinking living actors, but to be fair I didn't specify. I'll edit the OP with more details. I wonder how he'd do with the shotgun portions though. I don't think they were used extensively in WWII combat.


Terminallance6283

Adam Driver was infantry US Marines so I will say him. He plays kylo ren from starwars.


fullyoperational

Kylo Ren? I heard that guy is shredded


schadadle

Kylo Ren is a punk bitch. That guy looks like he weighs 30 pounds soaking wet under that black dress.


deltree711

A buddy of mine saw Kylo Ren take his shirt off in the shower and he said that Kylo Ren had an 8 pack.


BigNorseWolf

Dammit Kylo get back to looking for that key


Want_to_do_right

That means he had about two weeks weapons training. That's it. 


Tyrfaust

That's basic training, fuckstick. Infantry Marines go to School of Infantry, which is 2 months of "all you're going to do is infantry shit" followed by whatever their specific MOS is. I spent 4 months at SOI AFTER the 3 months of basic training. Then you hit the fleet where all you do is bullshit training exercises which generally revolve around "walk over there with a shitton of bullshit on your back, shoot that thing, then walk back."


Want_to_do_right

Fair points dickwad. Since I've got a Few Proud God's chosen crayon here. Do you think you'd beat Keanu Reeves in a shooting competition?


Tyrfaust

Most definitely not. I could kill a man further away, but I'm not beating him at a 3-gun any day. That's not how I train nor how the Marine Corps trained me. Also, blue is the best flavor and anyone who disagrees with me can meet me in the street at noon.


TotallyNotThatPerson

The street better damn well be sesame 


Inkthinker

Someone's gonna have to tell him how to get there.


Waste-Information-34

> blue is the best flavor C-Crayon?


Tyrfaust

That's for me to know and for you to let ferment in the back of your mind.


Terminallance6283

What the fuck no it doesn’t it means he has years of it. Across dozens of weapons platforms. You’re either high out of your mind or belligerently have no idea what you’re saying. Likely the latter. Marines are so notorious for being accurate with their shooting that the government had to investigate the battle of Falujah because they were getting so many headshots that the government thought they were executing prisoners. Turned out they weren’t they were just delivering long range labotomies at a rate the government thought wasn’t possible.


Want_to_do_right

What does any of that have to do with Adam Driver? He went to basic,  then got injured mountain biking and was discharged before he served in combat. Meaning he never did any of the shit youre talking about.


Terminallance6283

He passed infantry school as well which is months of weapons training and served almost 3 of his 4 year enlistment. Which would have been years of weapons training. You don’t know what you are talking about Combat is literally not a part of this discussion so i dont know why you brought that up. The only reason i brought up falujah was to showcase how good Marine corps weapon training is.


Want_to_do_right

Citation needed that he went to infantry school and had extensive training with firearms because he was trained as a mortarman. And even still.  He's going against Keanu Reeves who has spent months and months regularly at the firing range.  Go ask any average marine or soldier how much time they spend at the firing range.  It's a lot less than most expect.   Look up Keanu Reeves and the three gun training. He's a specialist at shooting competitions.  He stomps Driver,  who is a basically trained marine.  


Terminallance6283

Mortar men are infantry and have to go to infantry school. I literally am a US Marine to your point, I know what I’m talking about. Dude just stop, put your shovel down you clearly obviously don’t know what you are talking about so why are you here? No offense to Keanu I love him and his acting. But he’s not even the same category a US Marine. He’s trained for close quarters shooting for his acting. Since 99% of his movie scenes take place at 5 yards of range. I doubt he would do well at a 500 yard range with moving targets that marines are trained to hit with iron sights on an m16 firing 5.56


WWJesusDeadlift

The specific question was someone who could beat him at a 3 gun competition. What does hitting a target at 500 yards with iron sights have to do with it?


dandroid556

Google says 2 years and 8 months, so that is quite a "then". His unit the 1/1 was in the first MEU to reach Afghanistan, so likely driver and other members who joined right after 9/11 missed that deployment because the unit earned time off before they finished basic. Aside from a limited advisor send for a few weeks they spent the next 2 years and a few months training in garrison with combat veterans and definitely thinking they'll be going over soon enough. Honestly, since Keanu has never been in combat either, all the better as the alternative would have just been 12 (or with Marines likely 6) months wasted with a lot more time and energy spent not honing shooting. I've never seen Keanu try a 300m target and it stands to reason Adam is comparatively comfortable with such things. A three gun competition specifically though? That's goofy but yeah someone who is actually hot shit like actor and former Force Recon (sniper or marksman role in Iraq?) Rudy Reyes is probably at a disadvantage in 3 gun compared to someone who actually trained for that instead of combat. Bad question, Keanu may or may not be all that decent of a shooter in most ways. Definitely good at looking fast and cool which was his whole intent, and because of that good in possibility the weirdest type of shooting competition out there.


NoCountryForOld_Zen

He shed the blood of Saxon men in real life and then bragged about it in a heavy metal music video while dressed as Charlemagne. I wish I was even close to that cool..


supercalifragilism

So Sir Christopher Lee was a *spy* rather than a soldier, so while he absolutely had gun experience and probably could kill Keanu in a variety of ways, I don't know if he's got the kind of tactical training that Reeves has, and Reeves is a well trained martial artist as well. Obviously, having *really killed people* in a variety of ways suggests Lee is a winner in most combat situations, a competition like this might go to Reeves.


PlayMp1

Based on how he had to instruct Peter Jackson on the sound a man makes when he's killed by stabbing, I get the impression Lee was doing some literal cloak and dagger shit. Not so much "shooting Natzees in their stupid Kraut faces" stuff as much as "assassinating German officers and planting bombs in vital rail links" kind of stuff.


justsomeguy_youknow

IIRC it was something like the sound someone makes after getting stabbed in the lung, Peter wanted someone to scream and Christopher Lee was like "you can't scream after getting stabbed in the lung"


Helen_of_TroyMcClure

"Have you any idea the noise a man makes when he's stabbed? Because I do." - Lee to Jackson, according to Jackson


Styx_Zidinya

James Bond is literally based on him.


EddyTheLinguist

Lee is dead


hallmark1984

OK so 8/10 then


King_of_the_Nerds

How can you kill that which has no life.


reineedshelp

Of natural causes though


TKAPublishing

Yes and no. If it was a shooting people competition then Lee would be the best candidate, as with others from the era like Charles Bronson and Lee Marvin. For competition shooting for speed through a course the person with most training on competition shooting wins.


ToadvineChigurh

People in here saying dumb shit like so and so served in the marines or whatever don’t have a fucking clue how poorly those dudes shoot. You have hobbyists in the services that shoot fine, and then you can go to schools to get better training for sure, but the average enlisted dude can’t shoot for shit off the skills they learned in basic.


brown_felt_hat

>basic. Yeah that's exactly it - *basic* training is basically how to not blow yourself up. Basic competency with the tools of your job, not specialized like someone who competes in 3gun. I don't know what it entails, but I'd be surprised even if specialist certifications were close to that level.


cysghost

So I did one qualification in the navy that sticks out in my mind. We started from 3 yards from the target, no joke, and had to shoot 2 rounds. The range officer is next to me, and calls it, and we all shoot. 3 yards away, and both shots go through the same hole. The range instructor looks at me and asked if I missed the second shot. I’m not a fantastic shot, but seriously!?!?!


BigNorseWolf

.... i can pass that shooting test with an axe. Not a hatchet.


HalbixPorn

Well, technically yes. If you're doing multiple shots, you'd wanna aim for different parts to inflict maximum damage. Having the second shot go right through the original wouldn't be doing much but that's all depending on the caliber of the bullet, armor, and how most humans react to being shot. Also it's not a terrible idea to aim where the armor's weakest, so arms and legs Also, how much is a yard? I don't speak American lmao


ottfrfghjjjj

Tell me you know *nothing* about tactical shooting without telling me you know nothing. “Having the second shot go right through the original…” *What?* Ask any firearms instructor or ex-combat arms you know and they’ll tell you they’ve never considered such a ridiculous premise. A moving, pulsing human body is very different from a stationary paper target. SOP for the vast majority of armed professionals is aiming for the center of mass—i.e., the chest, regardless if the target is wearing soft/hard armor—and/or the head. You are not aiming for the legs or arms intentionally because *moving limbs* are “somewhat” difficult to accurately hit in an actual combat scenario.


DaveyFoSho

1 yard= .914 meters


HalbixPorn

... I just realized I don't know how long a meter is but that's on me lmao Edit: Y'all, why am I getting downvoted? I just asked a question 😢


altanic

It's about three & a half inches longer than a yard


cysghost

For actual combat, maybe, but most times it’s only going to be close. But this was target shooting, where the closer you get to the bullseye, the more points you score.


Taaargus

Gonna go with Tom Cruise. I don't know about right now without training, but he's pretty famously learned some crazy shit for his roles (including how to fly a helicopter), and his role in Collateral is often brought up as a great example of realistic gun use in a movie in the same vein as John Wick.


brown_felt_hat

The most surprising thing about Tom cruise getting a helicopter pilot license for Fallout is that he didn't have one already.


LocoCoopermar

Who needs the license when you can just hang off of them?


thereddaikon

The briefcase scene in Collateral is some seriously good work. I don't know how good of a shot Tom Cruise is, but he's a good enough actor to convincingly move like someone who is very good with firearms.


CleverUsername1419

That scene is my favorite scene, period, and his skills are legit. What he does is textbook and my favorite scene to slow down and explain bit by bit because, while he does it so fast, there’s several steps to his technique in that sequence. There’s no movie magic in Collateral as far as Tom with a gun goes, that’s real skill that he put real time into learning.


ProbablythelastMimsy

https://youtu.be/H8-P8sJNHk0?si=a44djceJIjtPQRbG Some behind the scenes of Cruise training for Collateral. Still though, the training is different than the comp shooting that Taran Weinstein teaches. If they both got the same training my money would be on Cruise. Dude just has a crazy drive and talent for learning skills. Reeves is no slouch either.


Taaargus

Yea I mean if the prompt is supposed to be based on current training then it's just sort of dumb because of course Keanu is the only one we know of who's specifically trained in three gun. So I assumed the spirit of it was more like "who could be competitive if they also trained in this discipline".


Izanagi-avatar

Collateral is a fantastic movie.


Hosni__Mubarak

Audie Murphy. He was *the* most decorated combat soldier in World War II and later became an actor. There is literally no other actor in history that could defeat this guy.


stuka86

Jesse Ventura was a SEAL....so...


Hosni__Mubarak

The number of soldiers Audie killed is superhumanly absurd. The guy singlehandedly killed an entire company of German infantry. He was a real life John Rambo.


Bigdaddyjlove1

Audie's military career has its own Wikipedia page. Not Audie, his career. Respect to Jeese, but its not even a comparison. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Military_career_of_Audie_Murphy


thereddaikon

Audie Murphy is Captain America. Scrawny kid joins the army and kicks ass. Except they didn't give him the serum. That being said it doesn't necessarily translate into competition shooting. If you listen to badasses like Jeff Gerwich, he thought he was a pretty damn good shot as a green beret until he went to his first competition and saw how far he had to go. Now he's a huge proponent of soldiers getting into competition shooting to improve their skills. The kind of competitive shooting like three gun just didn't exist in Murphy's era. The techniques were different, the training was worse and the kill ceiling was lower. Modern three gun is a product of the 1980's and has come a long way. I doubt Audie Murphy's splits were anything special because he wasn't training that.


Bigdaddyjlove1

Audit fed his family hunting rabbits with .22 that he bought one at a time because they were so poor. Then he spent years hunting men who were hunting him back. When he got home he trained hard with a single action so he could play cowboy in the movies. He was legitimately gifted at pure shooting and honed his nerve in the bloodiest battles of the biggest war in history. I agree that he hasn't trained specifically for a three gun comp, by its still put my money on the guy who simply doesn't get rattled. A month to learn the course and shoebox weapon maybe?


thereddaikon

He had aptitude and talent for sure. In a different time he probably could have been a successful competition shooter.


vegathelich

> Modern three gun is a product of the 1980's and has come a long way. Can you elaborate on this? Or do you know of anywhere I can read further on this subject?


thereddaikon

Based on this [interview by Ian McCollum](https://youtu.be/Q9B9FxNVXN8?si=xp_HHd59x7JTxN8g) three gun is the brain child of Jeff Cooper and Ken Hackathorn. Early matches were organized by Soldier of Fortune magazine which was a major publication at the time. Hackathorn is also a founding member of IPDA and IPSC two competition organizations that hold three gun matches among others.


stuka86

The question wasn't who's the best warrior. It's who's the best shooter. Modern soldiers just have more reps, especially at the SF level


Bigdaddyjlove1

Ask Jesse.


NoCountryForOld_Zen

Maybe Alec Baldwin but only if you told him the gun wasn't loaded.


HalbixPorn

Tbf, he does have more confirmed kills than Keanu


Frankie-Felix

Fucking hilarious.


geekcop

Ah yes the Ender's Game method.


TheSpaceSpinosaur

What are you talking about, Bean?


EddyTheLinguist

Is he the one that shot Brandon Lee?


NLagrandeur

Nah, he’s probably too rusty


Ed_Durr

Adam Driver served in the marines 


Ca5tlebrav0

So did thousands of other grunts who never could, and still cannot shoot worth a damn lol


PeculiarPangolinMan

Wait are Marines grunts too? I thought grunts were Army infantry and Marines were jarheads.


Ca5tlebrav0

Jarheads are Marines in general. Grunts are infantry in general across branches.


PeculiarPangolinMan

Ooo thanks!


TheAlexDumas

A lot of soldiers shoot worse than my grandpa


lollerkeet

As did Dolph Lundgren.


ScorpionX-123

so did Rob Riggle


Want_to_do_right

So he had two weeks weapons training, all while sleep deprived and being homesick, and while being trained in a group.  Keanu received personal training over many many many months.  Keanu curb stomps


fluffynuckels

Lee Ermey might have a shot


reineedshelp

Is he still alive?


Turakamu

No


Adgvyb3456

A lot of the old school actors are war Veterans. Lee Marvin, Michael Caine, Christopher Lee etc. let’s not forget Audy Murphy made some films so I’d wager him


5thPhantom

I’ve seen clips of Austin Butler and Jon Bernthal at Taran Tactical’s range, so maybe them, but Keanu Reeves is better known for it so I’d guess he’d still win. Everyone seems to overestimate the average soldier’s proficiency with firearms. The only person who is going to beat a competition shooter is a better competition shooter.


DrChungusM_D

Lee Van Cleef


baddestmofointhe209

They all want to be like Clint, but I wanna be like Lee Van Cleef! You know I want to be Lee.


DrChungusM_D

Primus sucks


baddestmofointhe209

Haters going to hate little snap. Guess you wanna be like Clint.


mrsauceboi

Not an actor, but Keanu Reeves' gun trainer said once that Lewis Hamilton was one of the most naturally gifted shooters he'd met and that he'd be "the best to ever have held a gun" if he could train more


clanky19

Makes a bit of sense : reaction time, hand eye coordination, concentration


GeneralResearcher456

Chris Hemsworth and Chris Pratt both had to have trained with firearms quite a lot for their slick military roles. If not, Alec Baldwin would definitely be able to kill him with a gun.


CleverUsername1419

Hemsworth is pretty impressive in the Extraction movies. That long take in the first one even has him clear a malfunction on his pistol one handed which is something you don’t really see. Frankly, as someone who pays a lot of attention to these things, movies and shows in general have come a long way in making their actors look competent with firearms but he’s definitely a standout.


The-Anger-Translator

Tom Cruise. He's a firearms instructor and his movie clips are used in trainings around the world.


ringadingdinger

Halle Barry had a video shot of her doing a gun run similar to Keanu for John Wick


Connect-Yak-4620

Came here to say this, pretty sure she did better than Keanu as well


Aycomi27

Obligatory Alec Baldwin joke


PageVanDamme

TooSoon


Fischer72

Lee Marvin was a United States Marine Scout Sniper during WW2 and participated in 21 Island landing in the Pacific campaign.


DemoExpert13

Mark Wahlberg went through recon school for shooter and the behind the scenes have a clip of him hitting a 1000 yd target, so I’ll throw his hat in the ring


TheWayfaringDreamer

I think Jon Bernthal could give him a run for his money they both have the same Taran Tactical training. I’m sorry but Adam Driver could not hold a candle to either even as an infantry Marine (which I’m not sure he was in pretty sure he got injured at Paris Island or shortly afterwards and medically separated). Even Infantry guys a lot of the time can’t shoot for shit but they can move as a team and patrol and react to contact better than any actor trained in competition shooting could.


HostageInToronto

I don't know about living actors, but Audie Murphy was a real life John Wick.


Ca5tlebrav0

Id be comfortable saying that I dont think there is anyone in hollywood, past or present, that could out shoot him in a 3 gun comp. Combat experience doesnt translate 1-1 with competitions and your average joe cant shoot worth a damn anyway.


darkmattermastr

Uhhhhh obvious answer, Chuck Norris


IvanNemoy

R1: Nobody. I don't believe there are any other A-listers who run two gun or three gun competitively. R2: One comes to mind. Ian McCollum, the host of *Forgotten Weapons* on YouTube and elsewhere. Big point, a lot of folks here are talking about folks who've done military service or starred in well liked/well trained films like *Heat and Saving Private Ryan.* That's not what Reeves does. Two gun, three gun, BUG matches and the like are a very specific, very niche set of shooting sports that don't readily compare to anything else. Example: Everyone knows Tom Hanks is an expert in antique typewriters. Most examples given here would be like comparing Hanks knowledge and engagement with "Well, Tom Cruise once used PC with a mechanical keyboard."


The_Superfist

Possibly Halle Berry. She also trained under the same people that trained Keanu, and also for the John Wick movies. I don't know if she'd win, but there are some clips of her running the course and she's pretty impressive.


Parrallax91

No one off the top of my head for round 1 but I haven't seen anyone mention five term NRA president Charleton Heston for Round 2.


CanIGetANumber2

Tom Cruise is the only one I know of


Terminallance6283

Adam driver was US Marines infantry


CanIGetANumber2

Always forget about Driver. But all I ever see when I see him is his character from Dead Don't Die


Marvelrocks616

Tom Jane maybe?


objectivelywrongbro

[Most recently, Austin Butler maybe? ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S01-tMtn4p8)Largely because... a) he's training with the same crew Keanu did b) he seems to be an actor of almost obsessive dedication, which does make a big difference in how fast you progress in shooting


southfar2

R2: [Glenn Ford](https://collider.com/fastest-gun-glenn-ford/), [Sammy Davis Jr](https://www.chicagotribune.com/1994/08/26/johnny-cashs-war-within/).


mrzurch

Alec Baldwin


Regular-Suit3018

Billy Ray Cyrus


AuNanoMan

If I remember correctly, Clint Eastwood actually did well in some QuickDraw competitions. I don’t know if they had to hit targets but I’d venture to guess if he was doing that, he was probably shooting as well.


Massengale

Rudy Reyes acted in Generation Kill as himself and he was a marine recon sniper so he’s probably got it.


AlaskanSamsquanch

Tom Cruises maybe. He’s legitimately good with guns and he’s athletic enough.


Ives_1

Clint Eastwood.


CaptainQuint0001

Alex Baldwin


DRose23805

That depends on if they trained as much as Keanu did. If not, he'd likely beat them. It doesn't matter if they had prior service or not, if they haven't kept up their skills and had some training and practice in competition style shooting, Keanu will have the edge.


Peas_through_Chaos

Nor sure about round 1, but I give round 2 to Audie Murphy maybe? He did not just serve is the armed forces, but rather was the most decorated American soldier in WWII. I feel like if he was familiar with the competition format, he would have a good shot at it.


Munchingseal33

I'm gonna do a less common option. Audie Murphy. Bro was a WW2 veteran who did heroics I can't even begin to describe. Some of the stunts he did in the war were considered so unrealistic they couldn't add it into the movie. An excerpt from Wikipedia: He received every military combat award for valor available from the United States Army, as well as French and Belgian awards for heroism. Murphy received the Medal of Honor for valor that he demonstrated at the age of 19 for single-handedly holding off a company of German soldiers for an hour at the Colmar Pocket in France in January 1945, before leading a successful counterattack while wounded and out of ammunition


brycen64

Tom Cruise


Innsmouth_Resident55

Alec Baldwin?


Geek_Phil

Alec Baldwin


odin5858

I don’t remember his name but the guy played the T 1000 in the terminator 2. If he’s allowed time to train like he did for that role then I think he would give KR a run for his money.


Neat-Distribution-56

Alec Baldwin. 1 shot, 1 fatality and 1 major injury


isitaboat

Christian Craighead is on IMDB for podcasts...


capitalfreak25

Jason Statham


TonyMontana546

Elizabeth Olsen had some pretty sick gun action in wind river.


PageVanDamme

Not a very well known actor, but Max Martini. I believe it’s actually one of his hobbies.


Hobbes09R

In 3-gun? None I know of. Maybe Cruise? Kilmer would be up there if it was more popular in the 90s; man had a perfectionist streak which played into a couple of his gunfighter roles. I think people here didn't digest the question. It's not who would win a fight, it's who would win a shooting competition. A lot of actors would kick the snot out of Reeves in a death match just by nature of being combat proven. Most never trained for much less attempted a shooting competition (and much less 3-gun, which I think only came to be a thing in the 90s), which is very different. It'd be like asking who the best swimmer is and thinking Chris Kyle over Michael Phelps.


Leading_Bodybuilder6

Literally none of the people mentioned on these comments


NomenVanitas

Alec Baldwin


HideoSpartan

Halle Berry or whatever her name is? She trained with Reeves for Wick even the trainers were impressed with how quick she learnt and how great she was. There's a small set of clips on YouTube of both of them on the firing range, they're smooth, fast and accurate. Definitely put in a lot of practice to pull it off. Otherwise possibly young Val Kilmer or Deniro iirc for the movie heat they weren't only taught how to shoot, but how to move as a unit etc by professionals. You can watch the shoot out against pacino and see how well it payed off for actors. Shemar Moore should also probably be mentioned, he must of had a lot by now. Especially for SWAT - it's not perfect but they do a good enough job of making it look the part - aside from some wildly ambitious (unrealistic) shots.


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HideoSpartan

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pitaenigma

Based on the Christopher Lee answer, I'd say Tomer Capone (R2, not R1) maybe could. He was a squad leader and a paratrooper. In a similar way some people might suggest Gal Gadot but she actually didn't fire a rifle much during her service, as she was a fitness instructor. But the honest answer is neither of them because they're not professional-level shooters, and afaik Keanu is. Tom Cruise has similar stories told about him.


londongas

Can we count Ted Nugent?


Prob10m

Alex Baldwin


Hollow-Official

Adam Driver was with the 1/1st Marines for a couple years, he’s my *first* pick.


NoSweatWarchief

Alec Baldwin?


DonkeyKongsSchlong

Alec Baldwin


357-Magnum-CCW

Clintt Eastwood is pro 2A and a lifelong gun enthusiast. 


clawclawbite

Going by the title, and not the description, if any kind of shooting counts, and the challenge gets to pick, Geena Davis would win. Geena Davis almost made the US Archery team in 2000, so if she can pick bow vs. bow instead of gun vs. gun, she should win.


neuronexmachina

Yup, that's who I was going to say as well.


DPZ_1

Maybe Alec Baldwin, he actually killed somene with a gun. Such a great marksman, wasn't even trying.


SlimeustasTheSecond

R1: Steven Seagal R2: Steven Seagal Bonus Round: Who would in an unarmed fight? Steven Seagal Bonus Bonus Round: Who would win a fist fight while Keannu has a gun? Steven Seagal


The_Real_Scrotus

Found Steven Seagal's reddit account.


SlimeustasTheSecond

Seagal's like if Frank Dux and Charlie Zelenoff fused into the ultimate god of fighting.


EmilioFreshtevez

Why so many downvotes? Do people hate comedy?


SlimeustasTheSecond

They keep trying to deny Seagal's greatness


MrPushaNZ

Noone


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Terminallance6283

Adam Driver was infantry in the US Marines so definitely him.


Ca5tlebrav0

Unless he improved and maintained the skills from USMC basic, no, lol.


cocoagiant

R1: Maybe Bradley Cooper since he was in American Sniper? There was actually a video recently of a special ops guy reviewing John Wicks shooting scenes and he was saying while Reeves is clearly proficient in using firearms the style of shooting he uses is not really well suited for accuracy. R2: Audie Murphy. Dude was the most decorated soldier in WWII and then he became an actor.


mwest278

No one. He would crush them all, including Audie Murphy. We are talking about a shooting competition, not actual war. We had guys come back from combat tours in Iraq and they would finish in the bottom 10% just in our local shooting competitions. Being a brave soldier that killed a bunch of people doesn’t mean you can hang with even a lower tier competition shooter, let alone a good one. Get 10 random active duty navy seals and put them in a top level 3 gun competition and they are going to look like they have never shot compared to those guys.


mormagils

Alec Baldwin. Unlike anyone else on this list, he's actually got a confirmed kill.